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Related to the topic at hand, the way MTFs are treated in gay male spaces online is probably completely different from how they would be treated IRL.
On occasion, I will see someone white knighting for troons by criticizing that gay men call vaginas gross because it hurts troon feelings and "not all gay men have penises." Of course, since this is on the internet, there is no way to know if the person saying this is actually a gay man. They probably are not. It is ironic troons want gay men to stop bonding over disliking vaginas, since that is kind of one of the few things all gay men have in common.
Another thing I have seen, primarily on Reddit, is an NSFW picture or video of a FTM in a subreddit that dedicated to gay men. These posts often get a decent amount of upvotes. Think of it like when a troon posts a shitty nail job on a nail art subreddit; they get showered in praise. I see three reasons for someone upvoting it: 1. societal pressure to conform to wokeness and pretend that the woman is a man; 2. the people upvoting are not gay at all, but are bisexual men or straight women; or 3. the person upvoting is a troon. It is an incredibly jarring experience to be a gay man scrolling through one of these subreddits and suddenly being confronted with pictures of someone with a hairy chest, beard, and labia, or worse, a testosterone-engorged clitoris. Replies to these posts are always clean of negativity in the usual Reddit fashion. Any reply that isn't removed will include the word bro, dude, or man.
Anyway, my point is that whoever is reacting positively to these pictures is not a gay man. When these FTMs eventually go out to places with gay men IRL, they will probably expect to get a similar treatment. They will be in for a rude awakening since gay men are mostly upfront about what they are interested in and are not willing to compromise on it. Troons can call men shallow all they want, but gay men are almost always upfront and uncompromising about it.
Woke societal pressure may make some gay men feel obligated to at least make these women feel welcome in gay male spaces, but they would never consider dating one of these women themself.
A fucking fedora.
I like this one.
She moves in with her retired disabled mom and whines about not getting a free insurance ride.
I creeped through her posts and it got funnier. Apparently she's never been able to find the nerve to do "adult things" like make her own doctors appts (so I guess mommy is gonna call and set up top surgery?)
She can get health insurance through her door dash gig but refuses. She also tries to find ways to find the names of people who rate her as anything less than 5 stars.
She won't get a real job because she "srsly will unalive" if she has to spend a *gasp* five whole years at a place that doesn't cater to her.
She also just kicked out a junkie bf. Not sure if she kicked him out of mommy's house or if she just made the post months late.
Also there's a lot of suicide baiting in the past week
I dontnbelieve her claim that it's not saving her money to live at home. If it's not, why wouldn't she move out?I hate to be all "kids these days", but seriously, kids these day. When I was her age no one I knew even had health insurance, some of us also had mental health issues that we just let slide because we couldn't afford to treat them. We spent years hoping and praying nothing bad happened to us because we couldn't afford it and/or Wed have a pre-existing condition from then on. None of my friends really knew what that even was,.but our parents told us it was a bad thing.
Every one of my friends who lived at home after high school helped pay bills. Some of us completely paid for our tuition with no help from home. all of us at least paid for car insurance, if not for our own cars.
I'm glad things are easier for the kids today. I'm glad obamacare says kids can stay on their parents insurance. I have no beef with living with your parents to save money, when you're just starting out that's smart. Roommates suck.
But dude, you gotta help pay the bills. You're an adult. You've been an adult for three years. Pull up your panties and do the hard things, because ain't no one else gonna do them for you.
Ah, I wouldn't be 21 again for all the money in the world. So stupid and I didn't even know it. Still just as stupid, it's just now I know it!
>realize I can be hot amazon mommy gfOh, look! Yet another rapey egg. History in r/rapefantasies, r/girlgooners, and r/FapDeciders:
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I do not understand why there is a certain percentage of butchy women who insist on having a loose tie, but I see this a lot. If you must be an ugly fatty learn how to dress yourself.Kaedan from OkCupid trying to pass as FTM and not a fat nerdy chick into D&D
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i hate to be the bringer of bad news but we have an entire thread on FtM troons having children.hell I’ve never known a trans person who legit wants to have a child and in all truth they can’t have one and I include “trans men”because they would just have a miscarriage with the testosterone overload.
Simple. She's underemployed and can't afford to. The OP said she's doing door dash bc ~mah depression~. I can't imagine door dash paying very well hourly and I doubt the tips are good enough to make up for a lack of steady hours.I dontnbelieve her claim that it's not saving her money to live at home. If it's not, why wouldn't she move out?
Also their strategy when whining about access to women‘s prisons (because of course it’s because he’s a tranny, not because he’s a hulking monster of a convicted sex predator), or about any consequences for behavior (like the current TTS drama).It's always "people won't date me because I'm trans", and never "people won't date me because I'm 400lbs, have a personality disorder, and can't bring myself to bathe on a regular basis".
Eating disorders, too.Honestly this reads to me like OCD or autism, both of which can cause serious problems with eating certain foods or eating foods prepared in a certain way.
Yeah, just because some lady-kiwi thirsted over a “feminine” man upthread doesn’t invalidate my insatiable lust for men that look like they just came down off the mountain after a solid 8 months of logging work. I want a man with some fucking GRIT and I will not be kinkshamed.No, women have genuine preferences for how men look and behave and those differ from one woman to another; some like more “feminine” styles than others and some prefer different personality types. Most people do hate soyboys but that’s because they’re irritating and useless, and even then (as painful as it is to admit) quite a few of them are in happy marriages.
Yup. Women are People TooWomen’s preferences are not just a cover story that you can unmask using information from the “what do women really want?” eBook produced by the Liminal Order.
I’d be very interested in seeing how many of those married couples wherein the battered wife I MEAN LESBIAN ALLY actually stays with the trooned out husband. Say, a five year survey? I bet it’s like 25% still married, max.However, I don’t understand the troons that accept this. I’m certain that they know that their wives were interest in them because they were biological males “presenting” as men. I’m sure they have seen instances of their wives showing attraction to some tv/movie actor. I’m confident that they have zero evidence to assume that their wives are lesbians. So, how are these troons so invested in their fetish and delusions that they’ll accept such blatent lies?
one of the things which many people notice about troons is how narcissistic and self centered they are, couple this with how autistic a lot of them are and you start to get an answer to your question.However, I don’t understand the troons that accept this. I’m certain that they know that their wives were interest in them because they were biological males “presenting” as men. I’m sure they have seen instances of their wives showing attraction to some tv/movie actor. I’m confident that they have zero evidence to assume that their wives are lesbians. So, how are these troons so invested in their fetish and delusions that they’ll accept such blatent lies?
Troons want to be seen as true and honest women so if their wives pretend to be lesbians it validate their delusion.I always found this to be absurd. There has been a decent number of examples where heterosexual women will declare themselves as lesbians as soon as their bf/husband troons out. They always skip over bisexuality and go straight to lesbian. Of course, most of them are neither.
I understand that some of these women may do this keep their relationship and life intact. However, I don’t understand the troons that accept this. I’m certain that they know that their wives were interest in them because they were biological males “presenting” as men. I’m sure they have seen instances of their wives showing attraction to some tv/movie actor. I’m confident that they have zero evidence to assume that their wives are lesbians. So, how are these troons so invested in their fetish and delusions that they’ll accept such blatent lies?
the binder completes the look
Even if a FTM manages to pass in photos, their mannerisms nearly always give them away irl or on video. I don’t even know what it specifically is about them, but it’s sort of an uncanny valley effect to me. Just something screams “FEMALE” even with the scraggly beard hair. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a gayden date an actual gay man, not a bi guy or another FTM.