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I ended up flipping off the video after around 7 seconds.
Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big
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Looks like by that map people in the middle of nowhere in Nebraska, Montana, and Kentucky decided it was and didn't report any cases.
It literally looks like a map of the seasonal flu. The virus isn't giving two shits about vaxx numbers, mask mandates, or vaxx passports, since these ineffective measures lose big time when compared to what evolution brings to the table.
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There are theories the R0 value for Omicron is as high as Measles. That means, instead of 80% immunity for herd immunity like with Delta (which was achieved a long time ago in most countries) 99% is now needed. That's impossible. Unlike Delta, if one person has Measles, a half hour in a room with him gives 90% of people in the room Measles. Measles is one of the most communicable diseases known to humans. Measles is kept at bay with the MMR vaccine, but that's lifelong immunity with two doses and lifelong 90% effectiveness with only one dose.
The mRNA and Avenovirus medicines can't stop Omicron. It's simply impossible.
The mRNA and Avenovirus medicines can't stop Omicron. It's simply impossible.
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Not everyone will be susceptible to infection when exposed. Anecdotally I think that's a significant number. I can't catch it, two of my kids can't catch it, despite being exposed multiple times to people confirmed positive with symptomatic disease. None of us are vaccinated.
Here's the health minister of New South Wales calling out purebloods as selfish pricks for refusing the holy jab
We're not being given the infection rates of the vaxxed compared to the unvaxxed and I think we all know why. However 17 people died in NSW with Covid today, all except 1 double jabbed and that one had received the booster. So despite the unvaccinated being less likely to become infected and less likely to die we must still receive the sacrament of the Pfizer or else be condemned to hellfire.
It's probable that the unjabbed have cross immunity from exposure to endemic Betacoronaviruses, OC43 and HKU1
As we have decided not to fuck up our immune systems we are able to mount a proper and robust response to exposure. Luckily Omicron has such a low pathogenicity that literally no one is dying from it so it's very much a God send and hopefully will provide the vaxxed with good immunity. Today fewer deaths reported in Australia as case numbers continue to fall, impossible if the virus was responsible for killing these people. Mortality rate is always a trailing indicator, as the peak of infections was probably a week ago we should be seeing a big ramp up in deaths for the next 2-3 weeks and we're just not. I'll say it again that it looks like no one is dying from Omicron although so many are infected that of course people will die with it.
So yes Omicron is a wildly infectious disease among the vaccinated but I suspect it has the same R0 in purebloods as any other common cold bug.
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It'll be harder to ask for a BigMac because McDonald's will slash hours at some locations.
Americans craving a Big Mac or chicken nuggets might be in for a shock as the Omicron variant of COVID-19 leaves many US McDonald's restaurants short-staffed and forced to reduce hours.
Chris Kempczinski, McDonald's CEO, told Fox Businesses the company is limiting operations at individual stores to address labor shortages due to a rise in COVID infections. Some locations might reduce hours of operations by as much as 10% to help with the labor shortage.
Kempczinski said McDonald's had distributed COVID tests for workers to mitigate the spread. He said there's no way to track whether an employee contracted the virus, which should be up to the government.
The CEO was against President Biden's overreaching federal mandate to make vaccinations mandatory for large companies. McDonald's employs about 800,000 workers.
It's one day at a time for McDonald's as the fast-food chain deals with a labor shortage not just due to COVID but also resignations as Americans are quitting their jobs at record levels.
McDonald's isn't the only fast-food chain dealing with labor shortages. Starbucks and Chipotle Mexican Grill have also temporarily limited operations amid growing labor shortages due to employees calling out sick.
The Omicron variant brings back terrible memories for Americans who are used to instant service as their ability to get a late-night or early morning snack at a fast-food restaurant might become more challenging -- sort of like what happened in the early days of the pandemic.
Besides fast-food restaurants, supermarkets and drug stores are also reducing hours of operations for the same reason.
At what point does the labor shortage become destructive to the economic recovery?
In January's Beige Book, the Federal Reserve appeared concerned about persistent labor shortages and supply chain woes. The report mentioned "Omicron" no less than 44 times.
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Did one of these Science Authorities say at some point that the jabbed can only get the coof from the unjabbed, but can't pass it to each other? Because I can't figure out why everyone seems to agree that a room full of jabbed people hacking their lungs out is caused by an unjabbed malefactor somewhere.
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mRNA tech theoretically could eradicate this virus and every other virus because the foundations of it are very solid. It's technology of the future after all. The problem is we have barely any understanding of just how all of these genes interact with each other. The human body is incredibly complex, and we pretend like we know it well enough to be messing around with things like this. What we're doing is basically walking up to an Egyptian blacksmith from 1000 BC and telling him to use that newfangled "iron working" thing of his to build a simple skyscraper, and then forcing his entire village to move in there. Our proud Egyptian kang has no idea just how to make steel girders or the sorts of other metal you need to alloy iron with, he just knows there's a lot of cool things you can do in a forge and he's the smartest person around about it.
This mRNA obsession no doubt comes from the weird transhumanist elements that keep popping up among the perpetrators of the scamdemic. They really don't care they turned billions into guinea pigs for their research, oftentimes under financial coercion.
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The guys of American Thinker keep the ball rolling and rolling about corona-chan and vaccine-chan.
January 17, 2022
Big Pharma CEO Blows a Hole in Vaccine Mandates
By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.
See also: Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla Makes Startling Admissions About the Vaccines
Vaccine mandates are one of many stifling measures brought on by the ongoing COVID pandemic, a consequence of those trying to “follow the science” and doing anything but or of government and bureaucrat officials using the opportunity to flex their authoritarian muscles. Whether they serve a useful societal function is an open question.
The CDC website cites a book chapter by research scholars Kevin Malone and Alan Hinman that describes vaccine mandates as a means of “drastically reducing infectious diseases in the United States.” Mandates present a challenge “when societal interest conflicts with the individual’s interest.” With vaccine mandates, there is the assumption that “Increased immunization rates result in significantly decreased risk for disease.”
According to the chapter,
Herd immunity, a term that can get one banned from social media and polite society, is the key. Both vaccines and natural infection can achieve herd immunity. Once herd immunity is reached, the risk-benefit ratio pivots from less benefit for every last person being vaccinated to more risk from vaccine adverse effects. This is the logical way infectious diseases have been approached in the past, until COVID apparently changed relatively settled science regarding vaccines, masks, distancing, and mandates.
The above premise assumes that the vaccine in question prevents contracting and transmitting the underlying infectious disease. Or as the chapter describes, “An important characteristic of most vaccines is that they provide both individual and community protection.”
Are the COVID vaccines providing both individual and community protection? If they are, then a case may be made for vaccine mandates although that is debatable. If not, then such mandates make no sense.
An excellent person to ask is Albert Bourla, the CEO of Pfizer, the largest COVID vaccine maker. In a recent Yahoo Finance interview, Bourla let the cat out of the vaccine bag,
“Limited protection if any,” is not a strong endorsement. It’s a polite way of saying two doses of the vaccine don’t work as previously described and promised. And with a booster, the protection becomes “reasonable.” He didn’t say robust or excellent, only reasonable, meaning that there is limited benefit. And it’s a benefit to the individual, not to other people.
An umbrella provides “limited protection if any” in a hurricane and a raincoat offers “reasonable” protection but, in both cases, you will get soaked and blown around.
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I must add the standard and necessary disclaimer that I am not anti-vaccine, having been personally fully vaccinated. Nor am I offering medical advice, only an analysis of this recent news item. Any vaccine decisions should be between you and your physician based on a thoughtful analysis of risks and benefits, as is standard for any medical intervention.
When Big Pharma doesn’t believe its own spin anymore, though, why should anyone else? Unless, as in the case of corporate media and US government officials, mostly of the Democrat persuasion, they choose to ignore the CEO of the largest vaccine maker, instead regurgitating their own misinformation.
CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said much the same last summer about the COVID vaccines, “They continue to work well with ‘Delta’ with regard to severe illness and death, but what they can’t do anymore is prevent transmission.” In other words, vaccines are no longer stopping one from catching COVID or transmitting it to someone else.
What they still do is offer “reasonable” protection, to use the Pfizer CEO’s description, against hospitalization and death. But is that an individual or societal benefit? That’s the crux of mandates.
Vaccine mandates are ostensibly to protect society by reducing infection and transmission and keeping hospital and ICU numbers at a workable level. Mandates prevent kids from catching COVID, bringing it home to their parents and grandparents, who may be ill-equipped to shrug it off as just a cold, as their child likely will.
But that bit is not working, at least according to the Pfizer CEO and the CDC director, as noted above.
Then it comes down to individual benefit, which there likely is. If the vaccines reduce the risk of severe illness, hospitalization, and death, then there is a clear benefit to the individual. Or rather, this was a benefit but, with waning vaccine immunity and new variants, this individual benefit may no longer exist.
Look at the numbers the corporate media chooses to ignore, “Nearly 75 percent of UK COVID deaths were vaxed, govt’s data shows.” Even Israel, the darling country of vaccinations and booster reports, “Most COVID patients at Israeli hospital fully vaccinated.” In the U.S., too, where NBC News claims, “hospitalizations rising among fully vaccinated in US, Fauci says.”
Assuming there is some degree of individual benefit, that doesn’t justify a societal mandate with exclusion, shame, and punishment for those choosing not to comply due to a variety of reasons, including previous infection and natural immunity, concerns over short and long term adverse effects, or religious beliefs.
Using the same logic, we could mandate the elimination of cigarettes and other tobacco products. “Tobacco use is the leading preventable cause of death in the United States,” according to the CDC, accounting for 480,000 annual deaths. This figure is higher than the number of COVID deaths per year, especially if one sifts out death “with” versus “from” COVID, a nuance only now dawning on the medical establishment.
Mandates could also be applied toward exercise and fitness, diet, body weight, alcohol, recreational drugs, and any other behaviors that increase the risk of individual harm or death.
But I am not going to live longer because my neighbor goes to the gym six times a week, eats a healthy diet, doesn’t smoke, and never drives over the speed limit. Similarly, if the Pfizer CEO and CDC Director are correct in their belief that my neighbor being vaccinated won’t prevent him from transmitting and me from catching COVID, then why make my neighbor take the vaccine if he chooses not to, any more than mandating him to eat right and exercise?
If I catch COVID, then that’s on me as would be true if I become diabetic or have a stroke due to my lifestyle choices. That’s the difference between individual and societal benefits. Vaccines, at least based on current variants and data, provide primarily individual benefits, which itself is diminishing.
One might make the argument that COVID-infected individuals consume health care system resources but, again, that same argument applies to smoking, obesity, excessive alcohol use, and other unhealthy but perfectly legal activities addressed by public health messaging but not draconian and punishing government mandates.
The U.S. Supreme took a step in the right direction by blocking vaccine mandates for large private companies. One opinion explained, “Although Congress has indisputably given OSHA the power to regulate occupational dangers, it has not given that agency the power to regulate public health more broadly.” This is why there are no mandates for well-established lifestyle choices known to reduce illness, hospitalization, death, and cost to society.
Fortunately, the Omicron variant may act as the ultimate vaccine, spreading like wildfire through the world, causing mild infection for the vast majority, and leaving those infected with robust natural immunity. In my state of Colorado, the Denver Post reports, “The virus is everywhere” as “State health officials estimate between one in 10 and one in 15 people in Colorado is currently contagious.”
Eventually, everyone will be exposed and infected, with COVID becoming endemic like seasonal influenza, with a yearly vaccine available based on the best guess of the season’s viral strain and vaccines encouraged for those at high risk, just as we do now for the flu vaccine.
Yet the left keeps pushing COVID vaccine mandates, despite the Pfizer CEO, CDC Director, and the US Supreme Court saying, perhaps in a roundabout way, that they are of no benefit. Hopefully, the Supreme Court’s trend continues, with a thoughtful analysis of our public measures, following the science rather than simply saying “do this because I say so.”
It’s been a long two years of COVID and, at some point, we must heed Dr. Anthony Fauci’s recent words: “We’re going to have to start living with COVID.”
January 17, 2022
Medical board suspends license of doc, asks for psych evaluation for prescribing ivermectin and hcq for COVID and for public dissent from orthodoxy
By Thomas Lifson
Shades of the darkest days of the Stalinist Soviet Union, where dissent from the lethal incorrect pseudo-scientific doctrines of Lysenkoism could result in imprisonment in a psychiatric hospital! Julia Marnin reports in the Miami Herald:
Dr. Nass’s purported “misconduct” includes both prescribing hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin and talking and writing about them in public. Via Bizpacreview:
Dr. Nass made a terrible choice, however, that may leave her vulnerable:
While saving lives is an understandable motivation, lying about the basis of a prescription – even of a drug with an excellent safety record -- is a violation of norms and possibly laws. But that detail does not seem to be the motivation behind the medical board’s actions.
It is the public confrontation by Dr. Nass that seems to be the motive behind forcing a psychological evaluation.
Should tweets like these send a physician for mental examination?
January 17, 2022
Former head of UK Vaccination task force says a ‘waste of time’ to keep vaccinating people
By Thomas Lifson
Cracks are appearing in the vaccination frenzy that has gripped medical authorities and politicians here and elsewhere. Despite the admission by the CEO of Pfizer that “two doses of the vaccine offer very limited protection, if any,” fanatics in and out of medicine, government, and journalism persist in urging draconian measures to eliminate the unvaccinated from society. The propaganda and fear porn blitz has convinced about half of Democrats to want to vitiate the Constitution to persecute vax refusers and even questioners:
But the narrative that vaccinations offer deliverance from the scariest epidemic since the bubonic plague is crumbling before our very eyes, as the far milder omicron variant spreads herd immunity and the officially recognized truth of the effectiveness of therapeutic interventions such as hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin slowly reaches the public.
An important voice in Britain has spoken out on the absurdity of the vax frenzy. The Epoch Times reports:
Dr. Clive Dix
Photo credit: Royal Pharmaceutical Society of Great Britain
Note that Dr. Dix is not a critic of the vaccines and expresses no concern for side effects. His point is that there is little benefit, and that a rational policy should focus on the most vulnerable, not the bulk of the populace who are (and always have been) at little risk. That is what Sweden recognized at the start of the pandemic, and thereby avoided the huge costs of lockdowns, including the closings of schools that have led to skyrocketing rates of suicide and drug overdoses among young people.
Dr. Dix does not mention the use of therapeutics, and presumably sees vaccinations of the most vulnerable as a way of minimizing the harm of an infection, not preventing it. In essence, this uses the very expensive vaccines as an alternative to the cheap, generic medicines hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin. But others in the UK, see the cost of vaccines as a factor that should halt the drive to vaccinate everyone:
I wish that the crazies who want to punish the unvaxxed would acknowledge the futility, if not the unconstitutionality and immorality, of their position. But now that the facts are coming out and people in high prestige medical posts are acknowledging the futility of mass vaccinations, perhaps the fever will abate.
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I did my first time too, but then I wanted to give it a fair shake and watched the whole thing.
Turns out that sometimes you can judge a book by its cover.
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There's a simple, non-tinfoily explanation for this; Those who are jabbed are being fed misinformation, genuine misinformation, about the safety and effectiveness of the vax. The majority getting seriously ill with covid are those who would become seriously ill with the flu; elderly and infirm.
The governments and companies need to come forward with clear data stating how long the jab is effective for. Because jabbing granny and telling her she is immune and to live her life, is going to send 100's of old biddies to the bingo parlour when a bunch of them will be effectively unjabbed. If the vax is 60% effective, 40 out of the 100 people will have no immunity.
The left faggots are correct; Misinformation IS killing people, but it isn't killing the unjabbed. On top of that, those who refuse the jab ARE looking at the real data and drawing good conclusions from it. Pfizer and the governments have blood on their hands, no matter what angle you look at it from.
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No, those are refusing their children be given the Holy Vaccine from the Great Doctor Anthony Fauci (PBUH) need to be punished. Like this Penn State professor said in a now-deleted tweet.
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Like this Penn State professor said in a now-deleted tweet.
It's like the insane Salt Lake Tribune editorial and the crazy internet hate over some tennis guy. The open hostility and rage towards The Others is something we haven't seen since WW2 maybe. It's not normal, and its probably not gonna end well. Unlike with WW2, there doesn't seem to be any obvious win condition that would allow people to stop hating The Other and get on with their lives. The people who spent 5 years raging about BLUMF haven't gotten saner since the election, they've moved on to openly fantasizing about putting their neighbors in camps.
Covid didn't cause it, therefore Covid going away won't fix it. But the Coof definitely accelerated the unraveling of a lot of people's psyches. I think that's why Malone got banned from social media. Whether or not this is literally "mass formation psychosis", it's definitely psychotic and the surest way to make people big mad is to tell them the truth about themselves.
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And it's that bullshit that IS killing people. At worst, the jab does nothing, at best, it offers some, fleeting and limited protection. It isn't as good as the flu jab, which does save people, even though ten's of thousands of people die every year of the flu. We do the best we can.
Right now, with COVID, we aren't doing the best we can. We have treatments for it to save lives; ivermectin HCQ and many other OTC cures, remedies or shit that'll make you less likely to die and they're all being slandered. The Misinformation is coming from all angles, but only one angle is killing people with it; the same group of people making the biggest noise of saving people.
And if you want a really out-there theory click the spoiler.
The Monarchy/The Brits/The EU+Brits have had enough with the fuck around from Pfizer and the lies and chink collusion coming from America. We saw the disgust from Britain after the Afghan debacle, even holding Biden in contempt. The USUKAUS deal was a sweetener to say sorry. I've always defended Boris Johnsons and his decisions because they seem to come from external pressure outside of parlaiment - when he says no to restrictions, information is leaked about him breaking his own rules.
I believe that those same external forces, knowing they couldn't fully control BoJo, then decided to place pressure on the Monarchy, not realising that the Monarchy is not just an old woman sat on a throne wearing jewelry. The pressure came from two angles ;meg markle who is a plant and Andrew accusations, both to bring down the reputation and power of the Monarchy (look at the posts on this website now slamming and condemnding the crown or even outright asking for its removal).
But it backfired, some numb cunt didn't do their research and Her Majesty ordered the release of a strain of covid that would render restrictions and jabs useless. A strain so mild that it will kill only those with one foot in the grave. A strain that would bring down and end the global scamdemic. A strain, man-made, using the information and data farmed by Moderna and Pfizer to keep their finger-prints all over it. Where did this strain originate from? South Africa. Which western country has the closest ties with South Africa? Only the very same Monarchy that has been pressured by external forces. The Queen rattles her scepter, a South African Germ Warfare lab creates and releases Omicron to end the scandemic. South African state media tells the world that omicron is a nothingburger.
Which country has the most confidence about ending the pandemic? Which country's own media arm, once chock full of covid fear mongering, is now backpeddling like crazy? Britain and the British Broadcasting Cooperation.
I wouldn't be surprised if the 'Illness' Her Majesty suffered from was COVID and an attempt to bump her off for going against the narrative.
Watch for news coming out of The Mid east, specifically Saudi Arabia.
I believe that those same external forces, knowing they couldn't fully control BoJo, then decided to place pressure on the Monarchy, not realising that the Monarchy is not just an old woman sat on a throne wearing jewelry. The pressure came from two angles ;meg markle who is a plant and Andrew accusations, both to bring down the reputation and power of the Monarchy (look at the posts on this website now slamming and condemnding the crown or even outright asking for its removal).
But it backfired, some numb cunt didn't do their research and Her Majesty ordered the release of a strain of covid that would render restrictions and jabs useless. A strain so mild that it will kill only those with one foot in the grave. A strain that would bring down and end the global scamdemic. A strain, man-made, using the information and data farmed by Moderna and Pfizer to keep their finger-prints all over it. Where did this strain originate from? South Africa. Which western country has the closest ties with South Africa? Only the very same Monarchy that has been pressured by external forces. The Queen rattles her scepter, a South African Germ Warfare lab creates and releases Omicron to end the scandemic. South African state media tells the world that omicron is a nothingburger.
Which country has the most confidence about ending the pandemic? Which country's own media arm, once chock full of covid fear mongering, is now backpeddling like crazy? Britain and the British Broadcasting Cooperation.
I wouldn't be surprised if the 'Illness' Her Majesty suffered from was COVID and an attempt to bump her off for going against the narrative.
Watch for news coming out of The Mid east, specifically Saudi Arabia.
Out there? Believable?
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They are, but their goal is not the same as yours.
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It's out there alright, but it's believable.
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The army of so-called fack-checkers strikes again this time telling then ivermectin has not been approved as a treatment in Japan.
Let's think this through. How do vaccine derived antibodies work at preventing serious disease? What's the mechanism of action? Notice how they don't really explain this?
Circulating antibodies protect against RNA viruses by neutralization and prevention of replication. If the vaccine antibodies were working against Covid, even if imperfectly, what would we expect to see? Well firstly much, much lower rates of infection and transmission among the vaxxed. Secondly not only would we expect to see fewer cases we'd be seeing far lower viral loading in the vaccinated who did suffer breakthrough infections.
Is this happening? Rates of infection and transmission are if anything higher in the vaccinated, especially with Omicron Covid. PCR testing is very good at estimating viral loading, the lower the cycle the greater the amount of virus in the sample. Are the vaccinated returning positive PCRs at higher cycle thresholds than the unvaccinated? No they're not.
So how are vaccines, which don't prevent infections and allow at least as high viral replication in the vaccinated preventing serious illness, hospitalisations and deaths? The answer I've been reading in the media recently is T-cells. Apparently T-cell immunity has been established in the vaxxed. Yes they're catching Covid, yes they have virus coursing through them at the same levels as the unvaxxed, but the T-cells are stopping them getting sick. But T-cell immunity doesn't work like that. Memory immunity is an evolutionary adaptation to pathogenic exposure. The end point of a T-cell response to exposure is to produce the same antibodies from a previous infection or vaccination, it's the same thing as having circulating antibodies but by a different and less resource heavy route. If the circulating vaccine antibodies are shit at fighting off the virus then the same antibodies produced through B-cell recall will be equally as shit. If the vaccine antibodies are pretty good at neutralising the virus and the issue is one of declining titres (and T-cell immunity is a thing) then again we'd be seeing lower infections and viral loading and we wouldn't be getting boosted with moar vaccine.
So what exactly is the magical property in the vaccines that's preventing serious illness when by all objective physical measures they can't be preventing serious illness? If we weren't living in clown world we would be comparing the vaccinated with recovered cases to see if any degree of immunity is actually present. Remember being immune is like being pregnant, you either are or you're not. Historically the most objective way of measuring immunity and effectiveness of vaccination in a population is to measure rates of transmission, but that's become irrelevant with far more subjective, and easily manipulated, data being used.
How can you tell you're being conned? Because when you ask simple questions to explain how something can work in one respect when it fails in every other and all you get in return is a lot hand waving, appeals to authority and screams to shut it down. How can a car drive real good if it doesn't have any wheels or an engine? It just does....magic.
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If the injections are not meant to prevent infection, which they are clearly not, then what are they meant to do? Why are the western democracies using every last ounce of power they have to try to get you to take this vaccine which is clearly not a vaccine.
I’ve heard a lot of theories but nothing yet which really fits the facts.
A) population control, i.e. straight up murder? Not deadly enough.
B) Time-delay population control? Plausible but by what mechanism?
C) sterility? Again, not enough cases.
D) “turning your immune system into a subscription service”. I like this one, but again not enough supporting evidence.
E) Hanlon’s Razor? Doesn’t fit the facts. If they were merely incompetent they’d just put dead pathogens in a tube like normal not do this mRNA gene editing crap.
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