US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Sithis]

Nigger, Joe Manchin won his last election in 2018 by 20,000 votes

Trump won West Virginia by 40% in 2020

Joe goes back on his word he will lose in 2024

Joe sticks to his word he gets reelected in 2024

If he isn't a Senator he is just some moderately rich guy from West Virginia, he's a nobody if he isn't a Senator

He will do everything in his power to remain a Senator, he likes being important

While I think and hope you're right that he won't cuck on this, as someone who has known Manchins politics for years, I still wouldn't really call him trustworthy, at least not on a consistent basis. But you can typically trust him to go with his survival instincts, he's a shrewd politician despite the backwoods country folk persona he puts on sometimes. West Virginians will do what they can to keep him reminded of what you mentioned and that they oppose this shit and will vote him out if he goes with it, but if Biden were to somehow come up with something more appealing to him long term, he still could cave. If he does though he might want to consider running in another state.

 

[Weppers]

But if Manchin doesn't cuck he'll never get to be president of the United States or even President of Canada

 

[Gehenna]

While I think and hope you're right that he won't cuck on this, as someone who has known Manchins politics for years, I still wouldn't really call him trustworthy, at least not on a consistent basis. But you can typically trust him to go with his survival instincts, he's a shrewd politician despite the backwoods country folk persona he puts on sometimes. West Virginians will do what they can to keep him reminded of what you mentioned and that they oppose this shit and will vote him out if he goes with it, but if Biden were to somehow come up with something more appealing to him long term, he still could cave. If he does though he might want to consider running in another state.

There is nothing they could offer. And I do mean nothing.

Electoral success? He secures it and then some by opposing the bill, with no downsides.
Money? See above, and he is already wealthy enough that it is not a great motivator on its own.
A position in the cabinet? I think that would be more of a threat than a gift.

They can't offer to move him up politically, nobody wants anything to do with the admin itself. It's a dumpster fire. They can't offer him kickbacks, there is nothing he actively wants. If there was, it would have been used already. So power and money are off the table, and the only other thing would be to support whatever pet projects he supports which... he doesn't really -have- any.

 

[Kane Lives]

There is nothing they could offer. And I do mean nothing.

Electoral success? He secures it and then some by opposing the bill, with no downsides.
Money? See above, and he is already wealthy enough that it is not a great motivator on its own.
A position in the cabinet? I think that would be more of a threat than a gift.

They can't offer to move him up politically, nobody wants anything to do with the admin itself. It's a dumpster fire. They can't offer him kickbacks, there is nothing he actively wants. If there was, it would have been used already. So power and money are off the table, and the only other thing would be to support whatever pet projects he supports which... he doesn't really -have- any.

I find it hard to believe Manchin doesn't have any pet projects, but then I realised if he had, it'd probably be something to do with Big Coal, which would be a no-no for the Cali Dems faction anyway.

 

[LUNEKO]

They can't offer to move him up politically, nobody wants anything to do with the admin itself. It's a dumpster fire. They can't offer him kickbacks, there is nothing he actively wants. If there was, it would have been used already. So power and money are off the table, and the only other thing would be to support whatever pet projects he supports which... he doesn't really -have- any.

The only thing scarier to authoritarians than a man with nothing to loose, a man with power and nothing but honor to win

 

[CarlosDanger]

I think Democrats going after his daughter probably didn't help things.

 

[Rome's rightful successor]

I have not been paying attention much, has the Voting bill passed or not?

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

From the Russian POV, NATO/the EU trying to bring Ukraine into their sphere of influence is the equivalent of Russia or China trying to do the same in Mexico - so they see it as a threat to their safety, and respond as if it were such.

Just because Putin is a thug and Russia is run by oligarchs doesn't mean that their perceived security concerns are illegitimate or just an act - and the smart thing to do would be to recognize that and try to find a path towards deescalation.

If Ukraine didnt want to join NATO and the EU before the invasion they sure as fuck do now.

 

[Blackhole]

Manchin won't cuck on this. And no, trust has absolutely nothing to do with it. It's basic political calculus that both myself and Draggs are bringing up.

He wins by just sitting there and saying no. There is literally no downsides to him and tons of upsides. In fact, the exact same upsides he'd get by voting for it, but without any of the baggage, and even higher-ups. He just -wins-.

So you're saying...

Spoiler: Manchin is holding a W?

 

[FAT_KHAZAR_MILKERS]

But if Manchin doesn't cuck he'll never get to be president of the United States or even President of Canada

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Canada's highest executive office is known as "Mayor".

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

find it hard to believe Manchin doesn't have any pet projects

In a way, the Dems did it to themselves.

They impoverished (West) Virginia, stripped it of most of the pork, and then rubbed (West) Virginia's face in it, calling both states inbred hillbillies and mocking them on TV and movies. They took positive GLEE in the 90's and early 00's in stripping jobs, industry, everything from both states as if they were a defeated enemy and then rubbed it in.

Now, they need Manchin's help but...

There's no pork to cancel. No 'special projects' or 'EPA Superfund Sites' to threaten. Hell, they can't threaten the military bases because they don't have that kind of pull right now.

They don't have the ability to add in something, they don't have anything to keep going, there's nothing to threaten to pull.

When you show a guy a pile of dirt and snickeringly say "All this is yours..." don't be fucking surprised when your threat to burn down his pile of dirt doesn't seem to phase him.

 

[Meat Target]

In a way, the Dems did it to themselves.

They impoverished (West) Virginia, stripped it of most of the pork, and then rubbed (West) Virginia's face in it, calling both states inbred hillbillies and mocking them on TV and movies. They took positive GLEE in the 90's and early 00's in stripping jobs, industry, everything from both states as if they were a defeated enemy and then rubbed it in.

Now, they need Manchin's help but...

There's no pork to cancel. No 'special projects' or 'EPA Superfund Sites' to threaten. Hell, they can't threaten the military bases because they don't have that kind of pull right now.

They don't have the ability to add in something, they don't have anything to keep going, there's nothing to threaten to pull.

When you show a guy a pile of dirt and snickeringly say "All this is yours..." don't be fucking surprised when your threat to burn down his pile of dirt doesn't seem to phase him.

Which makes every opportunity to tell journoshits to "learn to code" all the more sweet.

 

[TheBest]

Joe Biden is said to have an announcement tomorrow, what do you all think it may be?

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

Joe Biden is said to have an announcement tomorrow, what do you all think it may be?

im gonna take the worst case route and say new mandate

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Joe Biden is said to have an announcement tomorrow, what do you all think it may be?

A tale, told by an idiot. Full of Sound and Fury, signifying Nothing.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

Joe Biden is said to have an announcement tomorrow, what do you all think it may be?

Cornpop the Hedgehog is a bitch-ass mother fucker.

 

[TheBest]

im gonna take the worst case route and say new mandate

Oh God, not after that shitshow. Also I don’t think he can do another vaccine mandate after his got nuked.

 

[Meat Target]

A fresh batch of black-tar copium just arrived from Shanghai. (Archive)

Prepare yourself for the Biden comeback.

We’ve already seen the weeks and weeks of coverage marking the end of his presidency, capstoned by his twin failures to navigate his multitrillion-dollar Build Back Better bill past Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) and get his voting bill passed.

Here’s another way to see it: He may be cratering at just the right time.
This isn’t to suggest that Biden is about to become so popular that they’re going to break ground for his presidential memorial next week. But there’s most of a year before the 2022 elections, and nearly three years before Americans vote for president again — and two big things have sorted themselves out over the last couple of weeks that could play to the president’s political advantage over the long haul.

First, now that the vast progressive legislative agenda that he adopted — an agenda that was really not very popular — has been flushed to the Blue Plains Treatment Plant on the Potomac River, he can return to the smaller-gauge policies that made him popular in the first place. There’s still legislative time to break out smaller, more executable chunks of the BBB bill for passage — including stuff that Manchin will support — that will give Democratic candidates more to crow about and restore Biden’s previous reputation as a moderate fiscal drinker and not a drunk. The BBB debacle might be the best thing to happen to the Biden presidency yet.
Second, last week he hit the lowest of all his lows in the Quinnipiac Poll, scoring only 33 percent in job approval. That’s as low as President Donald Trump reached at the Jan. 6 Capitol Hill riot. He’s fallen so far that everything has to be up from here.

Why should we assume Biden has hit bottom? Successful policy initiatives appear to drive popularity upward, academics agree, and policy failures, such as a defeated legislative agenda, drive it down. As his ambitious plans got whittled down and then were finally shipped off to Blue Plains, the crowd that had previously been ga-ga for Biden now took to expressing their disappointment in him to the pollsters. With no more campaign pledges to renege on — and discounting other disasters like an Ebola outbreak or World War III over Ukraine — it’s hard to imagine any additional diehard Biden supporters will desert him and cause his ratings to tumble lower. The only presidents to have rated lower in the Gallup Polls were Harry Truman (22 percent, during the Korean War), Richard Nixon (24 percent on his way out the door) and Jimmy Carter (28 percent, during wild inflation). When you’ve fallen into the subbasement, as Biden truly has, then almost any vertical improvement looks like a comeback.

As presidential scholars tell us, a rising economy lifts all incumbents’ boats. It isn’t exactly morning in America yet, but things are looking up. We just may be turning the corner on Covid. Despite the burst of inflation and supply chain hassles, the economic signs look great. Unemployment is down. Wages are up. Signing bonuses are common. People are quitting their bad jobs for better ones. Consumers are buying lots of stuff. If the current economic trends continue into the summer, Democratic candidates on the hustings will have a positive story to tell voters. Had the Build Back Better behemoth passed, the Republicans would have campaigned against big government and more taxes. Instead, with no new taxes in the immediate offing, Biden Democrats have denied Republicans their primary issue, leaving Biden and his followers yet another popularity-enhancing chapter to read to constituents.
How much of Biden’s low popularity is a function of the heckling from other Democrats can’t be easily teased out. At some point between now and the midterms, it’s likely that progressive Democrats will stop with their hardcore hating on Biden and rally around him. After all, what choice do they have? If Republicans make their unifying midterm message all about hating Biden, Democrats will have no option other than to extend to him the sort of reverence they bestow on their favorite plush toy. Appearing on Meet the Press Sunday, former Bill Clinton strategist James Carville unequivocally endorsed the policy of love-bombing Biden. He advised his fellow Democrats to “quit being the whiny party” and start taking credit for Biden’s — and the Democratic Congress’ — accomplishments on child poverty, the economy, and the $1 trillion rail, roads, bridges, utilities and broadband infrastructure bill that passed.

CNN’s Gabby Orr, who tapped sources among Trump’s friends and former and current staffers, reports one Trump adviser saying that if Biden can get his approval ratings to 46 percent or higher, Trump will not run. The best time to buy a politician’s stock is when he’s hit bottom. This is Biden’s. To maximize your political gains, take a flyer on him as he hits an upswing.

 

[XYZpdq]

im gonna take the worst case route and say new mandate

"and so I issue a new executive mandate that Manchin does what I want"

 

[Snekposter]

If Ukraine didnt want to join NATO and the EU before the invasion they sure as fuck do now.

Yeah, the Russians really shouldn't have violated their security agreement with Ukraine.