Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[Patrick X Tomlinson]

Harvard has a very prestigious Mermaid Studies Program.

 

[Ross Ulbricht]

certain class of normies who supported it for virtue signaling reasons pretend that they never did that.

Those normies simply don't know what's really going on. They think that trans is the new gay and want to be "on the right side of history" this time - unlike those homophobic boomers.

So it’s like chat rooms but make ‘em cool?
But not a big pool of tards, rather some chat roulette style “matchmaking”? LGBTQ++ is, of course, on top.

Lel, imagine — I need help with muh abusive husband and get matched with another help seeking lady. Better Help, but make it worse, because you are “helped” by randos. Groomers ahoy.
It’s not free, is it?
Someone should hack that shit and replace all links to the appropriate threads on mumsnet.

Can a trans widow get help and support on that app/website?

 

[Hongourable Madisha]

I started my first faculty position, and a couple of weeks later, got really sick. Lots of blood and abdominal pain. Went to the univesity hospital ER -- they did a colonscopy and found I had a horrible ulcer in my colon. It healed on its own and there was no reason for it to have happened. Another faculty member in the medical school tried desperately to sign me up into their study on idiopathic ulcerative colitis. When they said it would involve colonscopies every two weeks for a year, I said no way in hell.

I am wondering if Jazz isn't going to find the entire faculty of the Harvard medical school wanting to sign him up for every possible endocrinology study, sexual reassignment surgery study, psychology study, psychiatry, pharmacology, neurobiology, ..... just goes on forever. I think he'll be able to make himself plenty valuable as a specimen in a way that none of the pianists or globe-trotters would ever be able to do.

I found this at university with the psychology department. I've already PLed elsewhere that I'm a diagnosed autist (of course I am, I'm a KF user) and there was a lot of research into it when I was a student. Nothing invasive or chemical, just paying us a lot of money to do quizzes, questionnaires and IQ tests and do things like play video games and read the interviewer a picture book to see if we could imagine a story connecting it, that kind of thing. I made decent scratch, and they needed as many normal people as they did spergs for the control groups so a bunch of us paid our rent for a few months doing it.

As well as the money we got for doing the experiments, it was advertised as helping with autism research and helping other autistic people, and just a kind and easy thing to do.

I mention this in relation to Jazz because, while the money might not be a big deal to him (though some extra cash for beer or burgers that Jeanette doesn't know about would always be a draw), the whole "helping save trans lives" angle could really appeal to him. It's easy work and gender dysphoria is the mental/neurological illness du jour so there'd be a lot of research going on.
He could be asked some pretty probing questions as part of it, and it could get him thinking and connecting the dots with regard to his own history and familial abuse. It might help wake him up and start living in the real world and get away from his parents.
I'm not sure which way it'd go; on the one hand, there is a lot of pressure on academics to affirm troons and never doubt it (see how Lisa Littman's study into ROGD was suppressed), but on the other, there's also pressure to prove that troons are all miserable and on the brink of suicide to justify the surgeries. Either way it might be a catalyst for him to think about what he's been through.

 

[Positron]

Jeanette's indoctrination has gradually started to wane and Jazz has started to ask (himself) more and more questions about who he actually is and what he wants. This will only become more prevalent should he actually go to Harvard as his classmates will without any doubt try to challenge his beliefs and make him think critically about his situation.

Kind of like in the Louis Theroux's Westboro documentaries Megan is a hardcore believer in the first two, but one of the biggest critics in the third because she went to college and got increased access to the internet so she eventually realized that the world isn't at all what she was told to believe in church's insular bubble.

Colleges are insular bubbles, especially Jew-infested libshit like Harvard. It is more likely that Jaron himself becomes the center of a insular bubble that Harvard kids cling to.

 

[Treasure Champs]

He'll never 'investigate' or 'think about what he's been through'. He's a true and honest woman period or his entire life is a lie, and everyone whom he has ever loved has been in on it.

 

[TerfSmurf]

That re

Colleges are insular bubbles, especially Jew-infested libshit like Harvard. It is more likely that Jaron himself becomes the center of a insular bubble that Harvard kids cling to.

That reminds me of this event with a celebrity transwoman: https://forward.com/news/breaking-n...els-talk-at-brown-u-hillel-after-pinkwa/?gamp

 

[Law]

Everybody thinks we're evil and hateful, but we actually helped Sander to land a real job and, in these difficult post-covid times, that's a blessing.

You're welcome.

If only he was working at an Applebee's dish pit and not some pie-in-the-sky digital chat app.
And I know it's been pointed out before but this Master's Degree-haver wants "too" get a real job.

Harvard has a very prestigious Mermaid Studies Program.

With a minor in Muumuu Engineering.

 

[sperginity]

LOL to you thinking ivy league schools have lowered themselves by accepting mediocre BIPOC students when mediocre white students have been their bread and butter since their founding. I mean what the fuck do you think ivy league schools have always been? They were never about the best students, they're about connections and status. In JFK's admission essay to Harvard he essentially hand-wrote "I am Joe Kennedy's son"—didn't even bother to get it typed. Jared Kushner's father paid for a building to get his son admitted. On and on it's been dumb and very well connected white guys yet some brown person gets in and the whole bs system is tainted.

I think what I do because I happened to read about this exact topic previously.
nepotism and class based admissions were entirely how it worked before standardized testing (which is a surprisingly good proxy for measuring IQ). Here is what admissions looked like after the SAT became the basis for admission (in the late 50s early 60s):

as you can see, harvard specifically is at the very top of the mean SAT score distribution. Whatever unfair admissions they gave had to be reduced to a minimum or they would fuck up that statistic. The problems of status and money driving college admissions will always exist, but having objective measurements of what quality of student is going there means that the upper class twit of the year contenders must be kept to a minimum in order for the college to remain prestigious. A perverse social movement that seeks to get rid of any sort of testing for college admission, and seeks to force equal outcomes between different demographics at any cost, has ruined this system. There was real value in knowing that a graduate from a school was likely to be in the top .05% of intelligence if they are doing an important job like physician or engineer. Fuck ups in the ruling class make for problems for all of society.

this is as off topic as I am willing to get, I won't argue about this anymore. I think it contributes to the thread in some ways because it shows how far harvard has fallen to admit people out of pity, even ones who are as unambitious and mentally ill as jaron.

 

[Julius Rosa]

Hmmmm. I'd really like to know what is behind Jazz's ridiculous breast growth. Seriously. They are enormous, and although some of it is weight that he put on that went to his breasts, clearly something did not work to the ideal.

The fact that the doctor has to ask about whether the boobs are fake or real seems like he is observing the effects of testosterone suppression (as opposed to being familiar with it, or anticipating it). I would have thought it was estrogen that created them, not just suppressing T, though the doc here seems to think that it is caused by lack of puberty hormones. Do breasts just grow in both sexes in the absence of T? Did they keep growing in Jazz when they would have stopped in an actual girl? Anyone know?

Over on /tv/ they are posting pages from his book and someone posted a passage where he talks about how he went on puberty suppressants at 11 and then had sads because the "other girls" started growing breasts and he didn't, and Jeanette was worried about his mental health so got him on estrogen at 12 (rather than waiting to 15-16 which was the original plan). So the kid really was just one big science experiment. No one had any idea what they were doing, they were just throwing hormones at him and seeing what would happen. I suspect it was the combination of blocking the T and dumping massive amounts of estrogen into him prematurely that led to the huge deformed tube boobs.

Watching that episode with Dr. Reed in season 3, it's obvious that this doctor had mostly worked with mature men. He was very concerned that the puberty blockers meant that Jazz would never have the kind of fake vag with sensation that he was known for. It was so sad how Jeanette, and, in response, Jazz, completely dismissed him as old and ignorant. I think it was that same season when J&J popped up at some talk by an actual mental health professional who had been researching this and was advising against early puberty blockers, bringing their groupies to condemn the speaker as hateful and ignorant. Today, even Dr. Bowers is backpedaling on puberty blockers, as it has become obvious that this stunts them for life (which is why you never see Bowers on the show any more).

 

[FatalTater]

Over on /tv/ they are posting pages from his book and someone posted a passage where he talks about how he went on puberty suppressants at 11 and then had sads because the "other girls" started growing breasts and he didn't, and Jeanette was worried about his mental health so got him on estrogen at 12 (rather than waiting to 15-16 which was the original plan).

Because as we know, all born-with-a-vagina-girls get huge knockers by 6th grade. Can't let the trans kid be left out!

Someone really needs to sit down with a lot of trans and trans activist types and explain that human females do not all look like Barbie dolls or anime waifus.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Jeanette was worried about his mental health

Sure she was...NOT

 

[AssignedEva]

Jesus fuck, how does he make his face do that?
Anyway, I've had a snoop on the app because Sander failed to explain what it actually is (great job at marketing, there, Sander). Apparently a "CheckIn" is a 30 minute conversation about a particular topic. For example under LGBT there is "Being An Ally", "Coming Out", "Gender Transition", "Live Authentically" and "Unsupportive Family/Friends". Here's a full list:

Spoiler: Categories

Faith & Religion
Discover a religion/Leave a religion/Question your faith/Reaffirm your faith/Spirituality without religion
Family & Parenting
Adolescents/Adopt/Aging parent care/Birth moms/Co-parenting/Disabilities/Empty nesting/Fertility/New baby/Postpartum/Pregnancy/Single parent/Stay at home parent/Surrogacy/Toddlers/Twins or multiples/Young kids
Illness & Disability
Caring for someone with an illness or disability/Living with an illness or disability
LGBTQ+
Being An Ally/Coming Out/Gender Transition/Live Authentically/Unsupportive Family or Friends"
Loss, Grief & Trauma
Estrangement/Incarceration/Loss of a loved one/Loss of a pet
Love & Relationships
Breakups/Dating/Divorce or Separation/Infidelity/Long-distance/Marriage/New relationships
Moving out, away & to
Being forced out of your home/Leaving home for the first time/Living alone/Moving to a new place
Work & Career
Burnout/Imposter Syndrome/Job loss/Quit a job/Retirement/Starting a company/Stressful jobs/Switching careers

So essentially it's counselling - they're pretty specific it's not therapy:

"Checkins are 1-on-1, recurring, 30-minute video chats where guides who’ve been through something support clients who are going through it. It’s not therapy, and guides aren’t expected to have the answers - just a listening ear."

but it's still counselling. In order to become a coach - and coaches get paid for their CheckIn sessions, it appears the cost is $20 for most (I guess CheckIn takes a cut) - you just have to do a 30 minute session with an existing coach. Not an employee, just one of the other coaches. At least one of the LGBT coaches mentioned having ongoing emotional problems from their coming out and suggested clients could "work through it together" with them so the screening is going well.

"But this seems like a massive liability risk" well let's have a look:

Important Limitations. Checkin is solely a platform to facilitate the potential engagement of coaches (“Coaches”) by potential clients (“Clients”). When so engaged, Coaches will provide coaching sessions (“Sessions”) to Clients. Each such party is solely responsible for using their own judgment and discretion prior to agreeing to an engagement with another party using the Checkin platform. Whether you are acting the role of a Coach or Client, you are bound by the terms of this Agreement as relates to your relationship with Checkin. However, Checkin is not responsible for the performance of any Coach or Client, and Checkin is not a party to any engagement between a Coach and a Client. Client understands that Coaches are not providing professional advice, and often are providing guidance based on hobbies or interests.

User Responsibility. You are solely responsible for your interactions with other Registered Users and any other parties with whom you interact; provided, however, that Checkin reserves the right, but has no obligation, to intercede in such disputes. You agree that Checkin will not be responsible for any liability incurred as the result of such interactions.

Content Provided by Other Users. The Services may contain User Content provided by other Registered Users. Checkin is not responsible for and does not control User Content. Checkin has no obligation to review or monitor, and does not approve, endorse or make any representations or warranties with respect to, User Content. You use all User Content and interact with other Registered Users at your own risk.

Coaching For Informational Use Only. CHECKIN MAKES NO WARRANTIES ABOUT THE QUALITY OF CHECKIN COACHES OR THE SESSIONS; CLIENT IS SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR EXERCISING DISCRETION IN SELECTING A COACH. COACHING IS DESIGNED FOR INFORMATIONAL, EDUCATIONAL, AND PERSONAL PURPOSES AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS ADVICE OF ANY KIND. CLIENT SHOULD NOT RELY ON COACHING AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR PROFESSIONAL ADVICE, INCLUDING MEDICAL, LEGAL, AND FINANCIAL ADVICE. CLIENT MUST SEEK THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT PROFESSIONAL ADVICE BEFORE RELYING ON OR OTHERWISE DECIDING TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THE BASIS OF ANY CONTENT, SESSIONS OR COACHING AVAILABLE THROUGH THE SERVICES.

No Liability for Conduct of Users. YOU ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF YOUR COMMUNICATIONS AND SESSIONS AND INTERACTIONS WITH OTHER USERS OF THE SERVICES. YOU UNDERSTAND THAT CHECKIN DOES NOT MAKE ANY ATTEMPT TO VERIFY THE STATEMENTS OF USERS OF THE SERVICES. CHECKIN IS NOT A PARTY TO ANY ENGAGEMENT YOU ENTER INTO WITH A COACH OR CLIENT, AND IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PERFORMANCE OF ANY COACH OR CLIENT UNDER ANY SUCH ENGAGEMENT. CHECKIN MAKES NO WARRANTY THAT THE SERVICES AND THE SESSIONS PROVIDED BY THIRD PARTIES WILL MEET YOUR REQUIREMENTS OR BE AVAILABLE ON AN UNINTERRUPTED, SECURE, OR ERROR-FREE BASIS. CHECKIN MAKES NO WARRANTY REGARDING THE QUALITY OF ANY SERVICES OR SESSIONS, OR THE ACCURACY, TIMELINESS, TRUTHFULNESS, COMPLETENESS OR RELIABILITY OF ANY USER CONTENT OBTAINED THROUGH THE SERVICES OR THE SESSIONS.

So essentially, CheckIn is Uber for counselling, except with even less oversight because Uber drivers have to have a driving license and this is just letting coaches vet each other. If a coach gives you bad advice (e.g. "Idk just smash up your ex's house" or "Flush your disabled mother's pills" or "I'm sure bleeding so much during your second trimester is fine, don't worry") then CheckIn is in no way responsible for the consequences and has no liability for it, and is not responsible for making sure coaches are behaving themselves or monitoring use of the app in any way.

It's pretty much the venture capitalist thing of going "Hey, what if we do (thing that already exists) but as an app, so (existing legal protections or employment rights) don't apply?". Not very woke or responsible of you Sander, what if a CheckIn Coach tells a trans person that they're not trans? CheckIn won't take responsibility if a CheckIn coach tells them to 41%.

Surprisingly Sander doesn't seem to be a guide, but Noah is:

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

I think what I do because I happened to read about this exact topic previously.
nepotism and class based admissions were entirely how it worked before standardized testing (which is a surprisingly good proxy for measuring IQ). Here is what admissions looked like after the SAT became the basis for admission (in the late 50s early 60s):
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as you can see, harvard specifically is at the very top of the mean SAT score distribution. Whatever unfair admissions they gave had to be reduced to a minimum or they would fuck up that statistic. The problems of status and money driving college admissions will always exist, but having objective measurements of what quality of student is going there means that the upper class twit of the year contenders must be kept to a minimum in order for the college to remain prestigious. A perverse social movement that seeks to get rid of any sort of testing for college admission, and seeks to force equal outcomes between different demographics at any cost, has ruined this system. There was real value in knowing that a graduate from a school was likely to be in the top .05% of intelligence if they are doing an important job like physician or engineer. Fuck ups in the ruling class make for problems for all of society.

this is as off topic as I am willing to get, I won't argue about this anymore. I think it contributes to the thread in some ways because it shows how far harvard has fallen to admit people out of pity, even ones who are as unambitious and mentally ill as jaron.

This is from 1961. Harvard doesn't count SAT score anymore, but if they did, I would be willing to bet that >95% of admitted students had a perfect score on at least 1 section.

Since the College Board revamped the SAT in 2005-06, the scoring is different, as well. A sub-700 verbal reasoning score in 1961 might have been competitive for the top tier of schools, but it's barely respectable now.

 

[Treasure Champs]

Lollll Noah's profile. You can discuss 'surgery, dating, medical treatment, jargon and more'. Hamsters! Double mastectomies! Pizza! My underlying familial trauma!

'28 years young (barf) with ten years of transitioning and life experience!' What was she doing for the other 18 years? Apart from developing an allergy to shift keys.

 

[NoReturn]

He could be asked some pretty probing questions as part of it, and it could get him thinking and connecting the dots with regard to his own history and familial abuse. It might help wake him up and start living in the real world and get away from his parents.

There's another way that could go...

Spoiler

Over on /tv/ they are posting pages from his book and someone posted a passage where he talks about how he went on puberty suppressants at 11 and then had sads because the "other girls" started growing breasts and he didn't, and Jeanette was worried about his mental health so got him on estrogen at 12 (rather than waiting to 15-16 which was the original plan). So the kid really was just one big science experiment. No one had any idea what they were doing, they were just throwing hormones at him and seeing what would happen. I suspect it was the combination of blocking the T and dumping massive amounts of estrogen into him prematurely that led to the huge deformed tube boobs.

 

[CobraPlissken]

Who could get away with a shirtless picture in a supposedly professional profile? Only a troon, of course. Gotta show those mastectomy scars, otherwise she'll get clocked as the butch lesbian she actually is with that feminine face alone.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

CheckIn? More like GroomIn

 

[RamblinRosie]

CheckIn? More like GroomIn

I wonder if it's possible to call and slowly peak the people working there

 

[Venkataraman]

YE SILLY TROON!

 

[NerdShamer]

Who could get away with a shirtless picture in a supposedly professional profile?

Are you deliberately ignoring Sander's TikToks? Being shirtless and woke is basically the only "professional" job that he has as an "social media marketing rep."