Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

I know trying to understand the logic of the mentally ill is a fool's errand, but I am foolish. So:
I can understand gay guys not being attracted to "feminine" men, and wanting a "straight-looking" guy. But they have to realize that straight guys are incapable of being attracted to them, right? I can understand the fantasy of "turning" a straight guy gay, but that's just a fantasy. In real life, he can never love you back. I know that with only around 3% of men being gay, gay guys face a lot of rejection and dating is hard. Why would anyone want to date someone that is incapable of being attracted to them? Why voluntarily enter into a lifetime of non-reciprocal relationships and dead bedrooms?
Autogynephiles using straight men like Sanders as prop in their validation psychodramas makes sense to me, because narcissistic autogynephiles use everyone as a prop.
But these HTST s just confuse the hell out of me.
Most gay people over the age of 30 tend not to dress like raging faggots, you wouldn't be able to tell that they're gay unless they told you. They're certainly also not all effeminate. Maybe they were in their early 20's, but it gets increasingly hard to pull off as they age. Most of them even lack the stereotypical "gay accent", so you wouldn't even be able to tell in casual conversation unless they mention their boyfriend/husband.

If you're a gay guy who's into men that look like... men, your pool isn't particularly small. If you're not gay, you just don't realize this because the only gay people you notice are the ones who broadcast it by dressing like raging faggots.
 
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Sorry for the double post, but the Rainbow charity website has a link to Jazz's FB and I JUST noticed this:

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Semester 2? Sander's post doesn't sound like somethng you say when someone starts college first time either.
 
I have to say it, Sander is one of the most miserable looking people I’ve ever seen. It’s like he radiates this deep unhappiness that not even a fake smile can cure. He’s only twenty four and he looks like he’s forty. I guess the old wives tale of a guilty conscience aging you is true.
I don't think its a guilt thing, I think he looks that way because his mom doesn't love him (or anyone but herself) and that really tends to break people. Especially if they haven't admitted and accepted it yet. He seems to think that, on some level, if he takes hope's dick his mom will finally love him the most.
Purple Rainbow is their charity organization thing to help trans kids. It's purple because purple is a trans color or something... and rainbow because it's LGBTETC and targets kids. It has purple, rainbows, and mermaids.

Basically, a grooming operation, but woke.


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The rest of the family think they are already perfect. That's why they are trying to "help" Jazz.
so what the fuck does this actually do? seems like its just a cash cow for the family.
 
He comes off as effeminate so his dating chances were already low. He’s also black and dark skinned so that could also count against him. Gay men, despite the pc police, are very vocal in their preferences for certain type of men. So he could have been an incel when he was living as a man.

Ironically, his dating chances probably rose because black downlow men tend to love themselves some transwomen. They get the best of both worlds.
He didnt look effeminate before though that's for sure! He has def had the glow up treatment.

Noah's female socialization really shows in the scene where she tries to berate the guys for not being into trans women, then gets mad when they're state they won't date trannies. This shows their "you're transphobic for not dating a troon" is something that they try to use in real life. However, because of their echo chambers online, they fail to see just how rapey and entitled they come off saying this shit in person. This should be a huge peaking for straight men who watch this garbage. If anything, I bet all those dudes peaked hard, getting told by a titless bitch with frog voice that they should be open to dick, and then crying "you're hurting trans people!"

Go fuck yourself Noah. It's no one's fault except yours that you made yourself into a person that literally 99% of the population don't want to fuck. Hope was quite gracious when Sander made it clear he didn't want a relationship, and he knows because of what he is, a lot of men aren't going to be into him.
I thought sanders based friend sounds and looked like a ftm and i was a bit confused by him.
 
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LMFAO that face is exactly what I was talking about, thank you. It just screams "indignant female" harder than a z-shaped finger snap. I'm pretty sure that exact facial expression is usually how mothers signal to their children that they really dun goofed, and are about 4 seconds away from being grounded.

Muh "male brain", eh?
Noah is attracted to females; I don’t get why she would be so invested in straight men’s dating preferences.

He comes off as effeminate so his dating chances were already low. He’s also black and dark skinned so that could also count against him. Gay men, despite the pc police, are very vocal in their preferences for certain type of men. So he could have been an incel when he was living as a man.

Ironically, his dating chances probably rose because black downlow men tend to love themselves some transwomen. They get the best of both worlds.
There are long-circulating rumors that Magic Johnson contracted HIV that way.
 
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I know trying to understand the logic of the mentally ill is a fool's errand, but I am foolish. So:
I can understand gay guys not being attracted to "feminine" men, and wanting a "straight-looking" guy. But they have to realize that straight guys are incapable of being attracted to them, right? I can understand the fantasy of "turning" a straight guy gay, but that's just a fantasy. In real life, he can never love you back. I know that with only around 3% of men being gay, gay guys face a lot of rejection and dating is hard. Why would anyone want to date someone that is incapable of being attracted to them? Why voluntarily enter into a lifetime of non-reciprocal relationships and dead bedrooms?
Autogynephiles using straight men like Sanders as prop in their validation psychodramas makes sense to me, because narcissistic autogynephiles use everyone as a prop.
But these HTST s just confuse the hell out of me.
I thought it was 10% gay. No?

Noah is attracted to females; I don’t get why she would be so invested in straight men’s dating preferences.
She can't compete with them when it comes to attracting straight women.

He just means spring (as opposed to fall) semester. Classes just started back a week or so ago.

ETA: Yikes.
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He just means spring (as opposed to fall) semester. Classes just started back a week or so ago.

ETA: Yikes.
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So did Jeanette ever go home?

Sorry for the double post, but the Rainbow charity website has a link to Jazz's FB and I JUST noticed this:

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Semester 2? Sander's post doesn't sound like somethng you say when someone starts college first time either.
Jazz has grandma's wonky eyes! Did he lose weight?
 
Jazz has grandma's wonky eyes! Did he lose weight?
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I thought it was 10% gay. No?

She can't compete with them when it comes to attracting straight women.

So did Jeanette ever go home?

Jazz has grandma's wonky eyes! Did he lose weight?
Faggot stop multiple posting.

One more thing about Hope. Noticed that he said he was a "size" queen. However, rewatching that part, it's clear it wasn't really something he cared about, but it was more about the men who would want to fuck him. While we know plenty of cultures and times of history had these "loopholes" into what is gay and whatnot, there is also a loophole of, if the guy you're fucking has a smaller penis than you, then it's not gay. Just like, the guy is only gay if he's getting penetrated, while the guy penetrating is not gay. Yes, it's ludicrous, but self hating gays will go through extraordinary lengths to try to explain away their behavior.

Also, Noah is not a lesbian. Before she dated the tit chopper's sister, she was in a relationship with a male troon. The picture of them together was hilarious, as the male troon towers over her. That might be why Noah is so invested in pressuring straight men to be into male troons.
 
The rest of the family think they are already perfect. That's why they are trying to "help" Jazz.

I think they know better. They just think they look perfect, and since they are the type of narcissism-infected household that values their image above all else, Jazz being fat is visible to outsiders in the kind of way they can't forgive. If Jazz were a junkie, pillhead, anorexic, speedfreak, or otherwise mentally ill or imperfect in a way that they could either hide or glamorize by comparing it to models or celebrities or who the fuck ever, I think they would be perfectly okay with that, Jeanette would positively revel in it. Instead Jazz is just mopey and fat, which is hardly uncommon. Since it doesn't fit the image they're going for, Jazz is instead subjected to one unnecessary and cruel humiliation after another. Not that years of broadcasting his intimate sexual health issues to millions wasn't worse, but with her family riding her ass and half this season being made up of TLC creatively taking the piss about how goddamned fat she is, I think this is the first time Jazz is aware of being a giant freak show spectacle. I have to wonder if Jazz is at all familiar with any of TLC's other programming, but self awareness is not these peoples' strong suit.
 
In the most recent episode, Jazz's stupid brother and his stupid friends were sitting around a table outdoors to have a beer. There were a few things that stood out to me.

1: His dumb brother and his mouthbreathing friend didn't know how to use a bottle opener.

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For clarity, they were using this kind of opener. Rather than using the opening in the center like how even a trained chimpanzee can comprehend, they tried opening the bottle with the side of the bottle opener. They give up after a few attempts, and since them opening the bottle wasn't on camera, I can only assume the production crew did it for them.

2: When their buddies showed up, their conversation was fairly fun and normal. Cracking jokes, laughing, people playing off of each other. Then Jazz's brother opens his mouth and immediately starts talking about dating MtFs when the conversation wasn't even tangentially related to it. The mood instantly sours. Everyone goes quiet, their smiles fade, and they do nothing more than silently nod. He goes on to dominate the entire conversation whining about his personal life.

3: Jazz's dumb brother had his dumb FtM friend there, and she clearly was not melding well with the overwhelmingly male atmosphere. The entire time, she looked awkward and clearly felt out of place. She only speaks up when Jazz's brother starts crying about his dating history.

4: One of the friends there talks about how they wouldn't want to marry an MtF because they'd want children. The FtM friend brings up the stupid "what about the 1-in-1,000,000 women who are infertile, are they not women" argument. I was laughing too hard to hear, but I believe the friend gave the proper response, which is "no, they're still women, but I wouldn't marry them because of that."

5: The FtM friend gets heated and asks if it's a trans person's responsibility to tell their partner they're trans. She was told "yes." She then uses the awful analogy, "if I have a criminal record, is it my responsibility to tell the people I'm in a long term relationship with?" Their question was so insanely dumb, everyone went completely silent trying to comprehend how awful a comparison that was.

The rest of the episode was overwhelmingly meh. Jazz shaving his legs and needing his mother's help was funny, especially when Jazz said he hadn't done so in over two years. Then Jazz's gay friend saying that Jazz should bring his mother to Harvard was baffling, on top of Jazz asserting that Harvard was a difficult school in terms of the actual difficulty of the classes, rather than just being a difficult school to get into. Since there was no scene of Jazz falling on his face like in the skiing episode, I give this one a 6/10.
 
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