Patrick Sean Tomlinson / @stealthygeek / "Torque Wheeler" / @RealAutomanic / Kempesh / Padawan v2.5 - "Conservative" sci-fi author with TDS, armed "drunk with anger management issues" and terminated parental rights, actual tough guy, obese, paid Quasi, paid thousands to be repeatedly unbanned from Twitter

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I know of a certain 'Huffpo reporter' who would like to speak to Pat again.

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'Totally understand why more people aren't liking this'.

'Any of you media types want a story, hit me up'.

Genuinely laughing. This is one of the most desperate things I've seen in a while.

Fellow lolcow and all round horrible cunt Tara Dublin chimes in.

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'I notice how you're giving this guy attention. How about we make this about me instead?'
 
He has 3 options now. 1- Pay up. 2- Declare Bankruptcy. 3 - Go to jail.
Bankruptcy won't discharge judgments like this; otherwise people would just cause as much financial damage as they could before the inevitable shutdown in court knowing they could just Chapter 7 the penalty out of existence.

On the other hand I don't think you can go to jail anymore for not paying a judgment unless it involves child support (which still confuses me a little ... how the hell are you supposed to earn money to make child support payments if you're in jail?).

Fatrick is desperately trying to get his "girl car" and "scooter" transferred into his mothers name
Courts don't take very kindly to that kind of shenanigans. Clawbacks are a very real thing. Imagine his mother having her own bank accounts seized if she plays along with a stunt like that.

While baseless in many ways, ostensibly the suit was about "fraudulent" online reviews left by people who hadn't actually purchased/read his books - a point he may have been able to succeed on, had he been more focused on actual "defamation" within said reviews rather than attempting to expose the identities of his [and other SFWA members] critics and "shut down" a website of people expressing views that hurt his feelings.
Nah. If that kind of action could succeed in court every third-rate indie developer on Steam would be going after bogus reviews constantly. Opinions don't rise to the level of defamation, even if carefully orchestrated, especially against public figures. Writing a book and putting it up for sale definitely makes him a public figure.

doesn't a lien mean other people now are entitled to own and sell his shit? he has to pay to keep his toys.
It means whatever the lien is entered against can't be sold or have its ownership transferred (I'm betting it's his house; that's probably the only thing he's got that worth more than the amount of the lien) without first satisfying the lien.

He could be in some pretty deep shit if his house is still mortgaged though. I'm pretty sure mortgage lenders include language in their mortgage contracts that lets them call the note due immediately (in full) if someone else manages to attach a lien to the property (the mortgage lender already has a lien themselves) and if he doesn't pay up, they can foreclose. That'll get ugly fast.
 
If that kind of action could succeed in court every third-rate indie developer on Steam would be going after bogus reviews constantly.
Whether or not such an action will succeed may be questionable, but "defamation" actions involving negative/misleading online reviews tend to get traction where they don't otherwise. For some reason, courts don't like business review websites being used to go after people personally when there is no actual business relationship.

Opinions don't rise to the level of defamation, even if carefully orchestrated, especially against public figures.
Fatrick's situation is different than the run-of-the-mill defamation action [even when considering the online review element] specifically because he's a public figure, though in a situation where someone is being accused of being a pedophile, it can be easier to prove actual malice; there's no way you can't actually have malicious intent when you're suggesting a person is a child molester/has molested children/has a propensity toward the same unless, at the very least, they've been charged with it - or you are a victim of the person/have other tangible, verifiable proof of guilt.
 
New pinned tweet. He's totally not begging for donations guys:

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"and I dare say we delivered on the promise"

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Bankruptcy won't discharge judgments like this; otherwise people would just cause as much financial damage as they could before the inevitable shutdown in court knowing they could just Chapter 7 the penalty out of existence.

On the other hand I don't think you can go to jail anymore for not paying a judgment unless it involves child support (which still confuses me a little ... how the hell are you supposed to earn money to make child support payments if you're in jail?).


Courts don't take very kindly to that kind of shenanigans. Clawbacks are a very real thing. Imagine his mother having her own bank accounts seized if she plays along with a stunt like that.


Nah. If that kind of action could succeed in court every third-rate indie developer on Steam would be going after bogus reviews constantly. Opinions don't rise to the level of defamation, even if carefully orchestrated, especially against public figures. Writing a book and putting it up for sale definitely makes him a public figure.


It means whatever the lien is entered against can't be sold or have its ownership transferred (I'm betting it's his house; that's probably the only thing he's got that worth more than the amount of the lien) without first satisfying the lien.

He could be in some pretty deep shit if his house is still mortgaged though. I'm pretty sure mortgage lenders include language in their mortgage contracts that lets them call the note due immediately (in full) if someone else manages to attach a lien to the property (the mortgage lender already has a lien themselves) and if he doesn't pay up, they can foreclose. That'll get ugly fast.
They just refinanced in the past year. They have 0 equity in that house.
 
Bankruptcy won't discharge judgments like this; otherwise people would just cause as much financial damage as they could before the inevitable shutdown in court knowing they could just Chapter 7 the penalty out of existence.

On the other hand I don't think you can go to jail anymore for not paying a judgment unless it involves child support (which still confuses me a little ... how the hell are you supposed to earn money to make child support payments if you're in jail?).


Courts don't take very kindly to that kind of shenanigans. Clawbacks are a very real thing. Imagine his mother having her own bank accounts seized if she plays along with a stunt like that.


Nah. If that kind of action could succeed in court every third-rate indie developer on Steam would be going after bogus reviews constantly. Opinions don't rise to the level of defamation, even if carefully orchestrated, especially against public figures. Writing a book and putting it up for sale definitely makes him a public figure.


It means whatever the lien is entered against can't be sold or have its ownership transferred (I'm betting it's his house; that's probably the only thing he's got that worth more than the amount of the lien) without first satisfying the lien.

He could be in some pretty deep shit if his house is still mortgaged though. I'm pretty sure mortgage lenders include language in their mortgage contracts that lets them call the note due immediately (in full) if someone else manages to attach a lien to the property (the mortgage lender already has a lien themselves) and if he doesn't pay up, they can foreclose. That'll get ugly fast.
What Patrick could conceivably do, assuming the lien isn't attached to his broken car or motorcycle is "sell" it to his mom for fair market value and then tell quasi to take all the several hundreds of dollars he got for the sale while driving around in his mom's car like a real adult. This opens two avenues for pests to entertain us: mocking Patrick for driving old lady vehicles, and continually submitting information about items a court could claw back

For some reason I was under the impression the house is his current wife's. Although if community property means a random guy who exchanged mean words over the internet with her retarded husband now owns an interest in her house because her husband just can't shut the fuck up, I am sure she will be pleased as punch.
 
New pinned tweet. He's totally not begging for donations guys:

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"and I dare say we delivered on the promise"

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I wonder if Fatrick appreciates that his debt to Quasi is entirely his own fault. If he dropped the Cloudflare subpoena at the Meet and Confer, he would be in the exact same position he's in now, only he wouldn't owe over $20K to Quasi.

The only thing Cloudflare had was Quasi's personal information. Quasi already supplied the info that he had as the admin of the OnAforums, which clearly amounted to nothing, because his lawyers had the good sense to dismiss the lawsuit before telling the judge that they had no clue who any of the John Does were, despite getting the information from Quasi.

And even if Fatrick had Quasi's personal info from Cloudflare and added him to the lawsuit, it wouldn't survive a motion to dismiss, because he failed to allege that Quasi actually did anything that harmed him in the lawsuit beyond hosting the forum, which was protected under section 230. And the fact that he didn't allege Quasi of engaging in any other activity was the reason why the subpoena was quashed in the first place. I'm sure Fatrick's goal was to get Quasi's information so he could drive over and be a tough guy, which I'm sure would have gone as well for Fatrick as the Gunt's Portugal trip went for him. But it's just as entertaining watching Fatrick oink about the consequences of his own actions. I can't wait to see what the Debt Collection Saga brings in the future.
 
I wonder if Fatrick appreciates that his debt to Quasi is entirely his own fault. If he dropped the Cloudflare subpoena at the Meet and Confer, he would be in the exact same position he's in now, only he wouldn't owe over $20K to Quasi.

The only thing Cloudflare had was Quasi's personal information. Quasi already supplied the info that he had as the admin of the OnAforums, which clearly amounted to nothing, because his lawyers had the good sense to dismiss the lawsuit before telling the judge that they had no clue who any of the John Does were, despite getting the information from Quasi.

And even if Fatrick had Quasi's personal info from Cloudflare and added him to the lawsuit, it wouldn't survive a motion to dismiss, because he failed to allege that Quasi actually did anything that harmed him in the lawsuit beyond hosting the forum, which was protected under section 230. And the fact that he didn't allege Quasi of engaging in any other activity was the reason why the subpoena was quashed in the first place. I'm sure Fatrick's goal was to get Quasi's information so he could drive over and be a tough guy, which I'm sure would have gone as well for Fatrick as the Gunt's Portugal trip went for him. But it's just as entertaining watching Fatrick oink about the consequences of his own actions. I can't wait to see what the Debt Collection Saga brings in the future.
OOPSIE DOODLES
 
i don’t get how people calling your book another book just in space is a compliment. It makes your work sound derivative and hackneyed.
That's what he pitched it as and that's what Fatrick describes it as. Nobody else is calling it "Red October in Space."

Also Fatrick's work is derivative, hackneyed, poorly written and poorly edited.
 
i don’t get how people calling your book another book just in space is a compliment. It makes your work sound derivative and hackneyed.
My first thought upon seeing that tweet was "why not just read Hunt for red October then, or if I've read it, why not move on to a book with an original premise"

Does anyone know how Amazon sales ranks in product information work? Some of Patty's books have a rank, others don't. Do they have to break the top million to have that included?
 
My first thought upon seeing that tweet was "why not just read Hunt for red October then, or if I've read it, why not move on to a book with an original premise"

Does anyone know how Amazon sales ranks in product information work? Some of Patty's books have a rank, others don't. Do they have to break the top million to have that included?
I have no idea how accurate this is, but it's fucking hilarious if true.
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Tom Clancy's worst is better than Patrick's best.
I have read Tom Clancy’s Cybernation which was about terrorists using the internet to make a fake nation on a boat and one of the bad guys kept owning dudes with capoeira and it was really homoerotic and yeah that was still better written than Patrick’s stuff

ETA that book was written by Steve Perry under a series created by Tom Clancy
 
Speaking of In the Black, based on some preliminary research Tor and most publishers generally don't take intellectual property rights, only exclusive publishing rights. So while they can garnish Pat's sales of in the black and his old books, his intellectual property (which at fair market value is worth TENS of dollars) should still be his and as such fair game. I think Quasi should take all of his IP for a hundred bucks and farm it out to his folks.

Writing self published amazon books in Patrick's shitty settings might break him as bad as the idea guys did fucking with chris's schizo dreamworld. Sadly not to the same degree since Chris poured his heart and soul into those delusional fantasies, while Pat's are just a really, really shitty vehicle for the world's worst get rich quick scheme gone wrong.
 
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