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I was refering to how inflation creates unrest, when people are made poorer it can get ugly.

You need to do what you think is best. I would love to know what places you view as more stable, but alas power levels and all that.

I just view the fact that if the dollar takes a shit instability will thunder down the whole world.

Authoritarian crack downs...maybe but kyle rittenhouse showed how weak the brown shirts of the prog faction are.

But then again it took a 17 year old to do what conservicucks cant.
Beyond power levels, part of the reason I am moving is to avoid anyone who decides that going after the political class is a great idea. So I'd keep it secret out of safety over even the power leveling thing.

But now that I know your point. Yes, inflation is a massive driver of unrest. We already have the bread and circuses running out or becoming less and less desired. And the authoritarian crackdown would be from big daddy government, There is a reason I put that list in the order I did. That is the order of events. You upgrade to one from the other.
 
Beyond power levels, part of the reason I am moving is to avoid anyone who decides that going after the political class is a great idea. So I'd keep it secret out of safety over even the power leveling thing.

But now that I know your point. Yes, inflation is a massive driver of unrest. We already have the bread and circuses running out or becoming less and less desired. And the authoritarian crackdown would be from big daddy government, There is a reason I put that list in the order I did. That is the order of events. You upgrade to one from the other.
This seems a recent decision, what was the tipping point?
 
This seems a recent decision, what was the tipping point?
Not as recent as you might think, I had been considering it for a while. But the tipping point would have to have been when the response to the year-end inflation numbers was basically "We need to do more and more of the same!" I had held out hope that they might do a course correct out of pure self-interest, but ignoring that was the last straw of that so I pulled what levers I could to get out.
 
I already have enough kids, we know how to prevent them. No, I am moving out of country because I am worried about my family's safety.
If anything goes down it will be one of three things.

1: An authoritarian crackdown that will affect every state regardless.
2: Insurgent action, likely on both sides, which... will effect every state regardless.
3: Full on civil war which... you get the idea.


Now, I am not predicting the third. But the first and second are very much on the table at some point. I had to make a hard decision which resulted in me determining I have the funds and the connections to move somewhere more stable and keep my family safe.
Hearing this from resident doomers is one thing, but hearing it from you is kind of a
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wonder if the US is going to be pissed at us Veneniggers for giving the iranians the enriched uranium in exchange for toilet paper :story:

Edit for context: after we burned our cash and gold reserves Maduro needed a extra source of income, the iranians noticed that we actually had Uranium and offer shitload of cash for it and Maduro did not even wonder why they wanted it
 
Hearing this from resident doomers is one thing, but hearing it from you is kind of a
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Despite how I am sometimes portrayed, I am not someone with an undo optimism. I base my takes on observable reality while looking at trends of what is going on and how those trends reasonably can and may end up. I say how I view the world will probably go, barring any serious fuckups or unexpected events.

Only a fool could deny that unrest is rising. And even as I point out the many things so far remaining on track to go well... getting there is likely to hurt. It's likely going to involve some serious unrest and those powers who want the status quo to remain trying to hold on to power with ever-increasing desperation.

The difference, in the end, between myself and the doomers is that I believe that on the other end of that is something good. A path forward. So long as many things go well, and as they are on track to.
 
Not as recent as you might think, I had been considering it for a while. But the tipping point would have to have been when the response to the year-end inflation numbers was basically "We need to do more and more of the same!" I had held out hope that they might do a course correct out of pure self-interest, but ignoring that was the last straw of that so I pulled what levers I could to get out.
I am somewhat surprised, I never sensed that it was that dire from your perspective, certainly not enough to leave the country...

Can you shed some light, share more perspective detail on what you are seeing and how it is driving your decision-making?
 
Hearing this from resident doomers is one thing, but hearing it from you is kind of a
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I'm like wow I have been annoyed and angry the last six months but after reading @Gehenna 's post I suddenly don't feel angry at all. My prayers for my anger to be removed have been answered...this new feeling I have is not what I was imagining though...
 
I am somewhat surprised, I never sensed that it was that dire from your perspective, certainly not enough to leave the country...

Can you shed some light, share more perspective detail on what you are seeing and how it is driving your decision-making?
I'm like wow I have been annoyed and angry the last six months but after reading @Gehenna 's post I suddenly don't feel angry at all. My prayers for my anger to be removed have been answered...this new feeling I have is not what I was imagining though...
I will note to try to calm down some of this reaction. My leaving is precautionary. I see unrest as likely but the three options I said are not yet set in stone and certain.

But I have kids, I have a wife, I have people who are relying on me to care for them and see them through it. I also have the option to move to another country and still retain my job, my assets, and most of my comforts. I am not moving because the sky is falling, I am moving because it now looks like it -may- fall and waiting for it to start would be a dereliction of my duty to my family.


I would recommend anyone here do the same. Not move to another country per se, but do what you can to keep your families safe. Buy a firearm if your state allows it -and actually train with it-. Stock up on non-perishable foods. Make sure you have some basic medical supplies.

Hell, go ask @Jet Fuel Johnny for some tips.

Don't wait until things actually begin to go south to prepare, it's already too late then.
 
I will note to try to calm down some of this reaction. My leaving is precautionary. I see unrest as likely but the three options I said are not yet set in stone and certain.

But I have kids, I have a wife, I have people who are relying on me to care for them and see them through it. I also have the option to move to another country and still retain my job, my assets, and most of my comforts. I am not moving because the sky is falling, I am moving because it now looks like it -may- fall and waiting for it to start would be a dereliction of my duty to my family.


I would recommend anyone here do the same. Not move to another country per se, but do what you can to keep your families safe. Buy a firearm if your state allows it -and actually train with it-. Stock up on non-perishable foods. Make sure you have some basic medical supplies.

Hell, go ask @Jet Fuel Johnny for some tips.

Don't wait until things actually begin to go south to prepare, it's already too late then.
They aren't going to stop, are they?
 
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They aren't going to stop, are they?
No. They will not. Their reaction to the final inflation numbers was the final proof. They are on track to be thoroughly fucked electorally though, but their reaction to that is likely to be volatile. So do right by you and yours and make sure that they will be safe, well-fed, and healthy in case the Dems go particularly nuts.
 
Please explain the importance of this.
The year-end inflation numbers were bad. "Lead up to the Great Depression" bad. Economically it portends an absolute nightmare. And the reaction by the Democrats was "We need to do more of the same".

It's... breathtakingly horrible. An absolute break from reality.
 
No. They will not. Their reaction to the final inflation numbers was the final proof. They are on track to be thoroughly fucked electorally though, but their reaction to that is likely to be volatile. So do right by you and yours and make sure that they will be safe, well-fed, and healthy in case the Dems go particularly nuts.
So aside from the obvious violent implications of that - what are the long term political ramifications of the Democrats going full retard, assuming they don't go full insurrection and civil war 2. Maybe a few steps below that, say actively advocating terroristic actions and being caught with blatant manipulations. Would that be enough to shake most of their base? How badly would the implosion of the party affect those who've dumped billions in, like Soros?

I know this is way out there speculation, but the political aspect is the one piece I have no real knowledge to predict the possibility space of.
 
So aside from the obvious violent implications of that - what are the long term political ramifications of the Democrats going full retard, assuming they don't go full insurrection and civil war 2. Maybe a few steps below that, say actively advocating terroristic actions and being caught with blatant manipulations. Would that be enough to shake most of their base? How badly would the implosion of the party affect those who've dumped billions in, like Soros?

I know this is way out there speculation, but the political aspect is the one piece I have no real knowledge to predict the possibility space of.
I will need to get back to you on this, so expect a longer post later. Just noting it here since those are all really good questions but I am a little bit extra busy right now.
 
No. They will not. Their reaction to the final inflation numbers was the final proof. They are on track to be thoroughly fucked electorally though, but their reaction to that is likely to be volatile. So do right by you and yours and make sure that they will be safe, well-fed, and healthy in case the Dems go particularly nuts.
Could you please possibly link a source to those raw inflation numbers when you get a chance? I haven’t seen them (outside of being told that they are horrendously bad), so it would be immensely helpful vis-à-vis context.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Well, you shouldn't compare anything Chinese to the West. I mean, the Chinese just go in circles. One peasant warlord gets the mandate of heaven, his kids work, the grandkids splurge, and the great grandkids are purged, then it happens all over again. Different costume, same cycle. It happens all the time with Chinese history.

Anyhow, enough rambling about Chinese history. I think a more applicable example to what you are talking about would be the American Revolution or Bolivar's efforts in Southern America.
>Chinese history isn't applicable to China
I don't understand. In all seriousness though, you can also see it with more Anglocentric things like the Glorious Revolution where most of the English army pretty much just gave up immediately and went over with the Dutch because they didn't particularly care for the Stuarts.
 
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I already have enough kids, we know how to prevent them. No, I am moving out of country because I am worried about my family's safety.
I can see where having a family to think of would alter things but idk, as shitty as things are here I can't think of anywhere they'd really be better.

I feel it rising too though. I'm not a boomer but I have studied history extensively enough that the parallels jump at me more and more by the day. Plus there is the biblical consideration, with me not exactly being a good example of practicing Christian, but still being familiar with the scripture and knowing we are in for some wild times.

Just hope you're able to find somewhere that's actually better, because even outside of an End Times antichrist takeover thing, it's pretty clear that the Establishment cabal is not just a US thing anymore, globohomo has spread to the far corners of the earth.

I myself look forward to the opportunity to LARP a redneck version of Helm's Deep in the Appalachians. If nothing else it should make for some excitement before the end, and there will be enough moonshine that we won't even feel the heat from the drone strike.
 
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