Games that couldn't be made today / video game things that wouldn't be acceptable today

I posted this in another similar thread, but i'm sure if Bethesda kept the attributes system (last seen in TES IV: Oblivion) probably gonna be a outrage nowadays about why female characters of different races have distinct starting attributes.

-4 STR

To be fair, I think that meme originated because there was one splatbook for AD&D 1E, maybe even BECMI, I don't know, but really early D&D all the same, which caused women to have a STR which maxed at 18/50. For the record, in AD&D 1E and 2E, ability scores were not linear but logarithmic. Basically a person with, say, INT 18 was a significant percentage smarter than INT 17, and any ability score over 20 was considered super mortal and maxed out at 25 which was literally godlike. Because STR was used so often in calculating melee damage, it would be a bit nonsensical for someone to gain a point of strength and go from doing +4 damage extra to +9 extra damage, so percentile strength was instituted for fighter and fighter type classes. Basically, if you generated a character with STR 18 or gained to STR 18 using a stat increasing item, you would roll percentile dice and have you STR score as 18/nn. This would then be used as sortt of gradations between 18 STR and 19 STR.

Therefore the highest possible STR for a fighter at generation was 18/00, exotic races notwithstanding. But one splatbook decided that women fighters should cap out at 18/50. I don't think any of the core books said as much, just this one splatbook.

Like many things in AD&D 2E it smelled of a kludge that was podged in to make things work more smoothly, but work it did. Compare and contrast fighters at 9th level and above gaining followers and being balanced against high level wizards and clerics by literally having armies of henchmen at their beck and call. Who at very high level could in turn have armies of their own henchmen and so forth. This didn't get used very often because it's a fucking ballsache to resolve combat in a single-character combat system for a platoon of 50 spearmen. The only way to really do it was to house-rule ways of treating an entire platoon of spearmen as a single combatant against, say, a similarly sized mob of enemies using averaged out stats.

Anyhow. Autism over, back on topic. For some reason, the throwaway limit of women as 18/50 STR became memed into how women should have -4 STR. And is still taken as gospel by who you would think and used as evidence that D&D iS mISoGyNiST!!!1
 
Any women who is baddie, being a cunt. All the time, even in the same game with a cast of evil white males, the evil female will be played up as some "momma bear who lost her cub" or is simply reacting to evil white men. It actually hurts females in games because they are fucking boring, always the same shitty story. Kinda like how all black women will be sassy, talk back, will have the magical negro complex, and always know the truth. To be fair though, men have often been treated as a punch line for years, long before gaming was even a thing. White men are the best in a story, because they can be anything at all, the full spectrum of what it is to be a human. All the women have to be "I am woman, hear me roar" shit. Any white female WILL be fucking the sensitive black guy (but that is pushed even beyond games, adverts in the UK are fucking rife with the nigger/white woman obsession. Fucking jews and their strange race mixing nonsense).
 
Any women who is baddie, being a cunt.
There are not many good female baddies to start with. For every Miang Hawwa there are like ten Leblancs.
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If I had to guess, it's because women are, on average, more anxious/neurotic and see themselves as potential victims.🤔
 
Any women who is baddie, being a cunt. All the time, even in the same game with a cast of evil white males, the evil female will be played up as some "momma bear who lost her cub" or is simply reacting to evil white men. It actually hurts females in games because they are fucking boring, always the same shitty story. Kinda like how all black women will be sassy, talk back, will have the magical negro complex, and always know the truth. To be fair though, men have often been treated as a punch line for years, long before gaming was even a thing. White men are the best in a story, because they can be anything at all, the full spectrum of what it is to be a human. All the women have to be "I am woman, hear me roar" shit. Any white female WILL be fucking the sensitive black guy (but that is pushed even beyond games, adverts in the UK are fucking rife with the nigger/white woman obsession. Fucking jews and their strange race mixing nonsense).

It didn't used to be like this. When I was a wee squealer you could have female baddies whose origin story had nothing to do with evil men or freudian excuses. Callisto and Velasca in Xena, Warrior Princess, for instance, the former of which was as brilliantly chaotic evil as you could get and the latter of which was just plain power hungry. Alice Hong in S. M. Stirling's Island in the Sea of Time novels as well. She refers to the other main villain as her "enabler" and is also chaotic evil.

Actually, why isn't there a TV series of Island in the Sea of Time. It would cause such screeching. And the concept is very appealing - Nantucket blasted back inexplicably to 1250 BC, and the people on it and on the passing Coast Guard sailing ship Eagle have to survive in this brave old world without technology or suchlike. However some of the people are more interested in seeing if they can play Civilization in real life and split off and form their own empire for their own egos - literally; William Walker the big bad of the series is basically a shitposter who runs a slave empire while larping as fictional characters, almost. Why would it make screeching? One of the protagonists is an older black lesbian Coast Guard officer... who comes out with things that are dangerously based, like when she slaps down one of the islanders who wants to mount an expedition to Egypt because he is a terrible hotep and pretty much literally wants to turn it into Wakanda, or how she verbally murders that godawful soy boy David Lisketter by explaining to him that him and his sister's attempts to save the Native Americans from the conquistadors of the future by giving them gunpowder also resulted in him accidentally giving the Olmecs mumps which, in a virgin field epidemic, leads to permanent male sterility, and he subsequently an heros over it. Yeah, Marian Alston is basically a walking talking fuck you to BLM because she actually makes her life matter rather than moaning and grifting.

Also the fact that she dresses like a combination between a samurai and a conquistador with katana and flintlock pistol.
 
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There are not many good female baddies to start with. For every Miang Hawwa there are like ten Leblancs.
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If I had to guess, it's because women are, on average, more anxious/neurotic and see themselves as potential victims.🤔
Never saw Leblanc as a villain. More of a comic relief rival. A "Wayuna" if you will. Then again I feel like FFX-2's "villain" was slavish devotion to cults of personality, Vegnagun and Shuyin were plot devices (and the story would have been better if it was just Shuyin imo).
 
People were already mad in 2015 but I'm trying to picture Quiet being a character today and not seeing it.
2015 was the last year that any remnants of the old ways were still left in the culture.

Considering games take years to be developed, anything that came out that year would have started development well before stuff like Gamergate, to say nothing of Dolan Dumperderino.

Wokeness was already a thing obviously out there by 2015, it just took a while for the full impact on the culture to be felt, when I try to pick out a year that I would say was the end of the "good old days", 2015 seems to clearly be it, everything was still kind of ok in 2015, but it's been an increasing nightmare ever since.
 
SWTOR has a companion who’s sister is a literal sex slave, you get a quest to free her and naturally the Dark Side option is to extort the poor woman for sex in return for freeing her.

That’s if you’re male, the female option has you order her to service all the men in your crew.

The companion in question has a shock collar and you can zap her anytime she opens her mouth, it’s immensely satisfying cause she’s an expy of an insufferable KOTOR companion.
 
I'll never forget her guest spot on CSI.
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Hudson Leick is now a yoga instructor. A friend of mine linked me to one of her YouTube videos exactly at the point where she refers to how you need to sort of push your pubic bone into the mat to do one of the poses properly. I will admit that when she said "pubic bone," I kind of had a PP AT FULL MAST situation, even without her expression which could be one where you couldn't know whether she was going to fuck your brains out or kill you horribly or maybe both.

Though the sexiest accent in the world is RP. For both men and women. Evidence:


Back on topic. Something in gaming you probably can't get away with nowadays. Gabriel Knight. The first one, that is. You play the title character who is an inexplicable fanny magnet and struggling author, who with his cop friend investigates a Voodoo cult in New Orleans. The whole idea that all the bad guys are black and you, a white guy, with an actual police officer, go up against them, would be deemed very much problematic. Gabriel is also at the outset literally in the process of culturally appropriating Voodoo stuff for a dodgy thriller novel he's writing, and grills black people in so doing about anything and everything to do with Voodoo rather than staying in his lane.

He also routinely perves on his assistant. And anyone in a skirt.

Worst of all, his refusal to stay in his lane actually takes down a murderous cult. TV Tropes claims that the climax which features his cop friend Mosely (who is white) shooting the cult's enforcer (who just happens to be black) dead has "unfortunate implications."
 
You know what, you might as well add piracy and torrents to the list now.

This Fit Girl and Empress drama is making them destroy all their work just to spite each other. Not even internet piracy can escape misgendering and tranny drama. Not only that but what started this was donations, people were paying him to crack denuvo and repack the games so they could buy pirated video games.

Like what the fuck? At that point if you're giving someone 60 bucks you might as well buy the fucking game legally.
Never paid, didnt know it was a tranny but dont care as long as the repack works

But sometimes it wont, and that russian (tranny?) rarely updates them

Any better alternatives?
 
You can post examples from old game magazines all day long, but this is one that still makes me laugh, comparing real life women to video game in a very sexist way and a picture from the London launch of BMX XXX.

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It's ironic because fat chicks that probably later became feminists absolutely loved the hell out of FFX-2 back in the day, but still got the attitude of "sexy bad" later on.
God I wish I was one of those bike seats
 
This Fit Girl and Empress drama is making them destroy all their work just to spite each other. Not even internet piracy can escape misgendering and tranny drama.
Blinded by the light of their 'coming out' celebrity?

Many such cases, it seems.🤔
 
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