Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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The rulers have spoken. Israel is the state of (Yahweh) and blessed above all. The (chosen)'s wishes must be obeyed.



Turks tried this in the middle ages as well. It is slower but your troops take less hits.
So the smallhats are backing russia?
 
Couple days old:


After UK foreign minister's threats to deport Russian oligharchs and freeze their bank assets, existing gas pipeline through Ukraine all of a sudden and totally unexpected doubled the gas it was pumping into EU.

EUrfags not only NOT freezing, they are now getting cheaper gas (compared to LPG). See, EUrofags just need to talk to the right people if they need to get something done.

This is what happens when Vlad is napping (they cut this from Russian state TV)

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So the smallhats are backing russia?

China trying to tell us something ...

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... shut up, snowflakes have 5 points and are red
 
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The west(Usa,Germany) is really forcing Putins hand, instead of trade deals they impose sanctions and demonize the Russians incessantly in the media. All to ''protect'' Ukraine a corrupt child porn producing nation who will sell any weapon they receive to Iran, the Russian mob, and to every enemy of the free world there is.
All Putin wants is a buffer state he controls between him and the West, and sip vodka in his backyard....and now the West is driving him into the arms of xi jing pin which is something we don't want and Putin don't want but has no choice really.
 
The west(Usa,Germany) is really forcing Putins hand, instead of trade deals they impose sanctions and demonize the Russians incessantly in the media. All to ''protect'' Ukraine a corrupt child porn producing nation who will sell any weapon they receive to Iran, the Russian mob, and to every enemy of the free world there is.
All Putin wants is a buffer state he controls between him and the West, and sip vodka in his backyard....and now the West is driving him into the arms of xi jing pin which is something we don't want and Putin don't want but has no choice really.

this is thread is out-yourself autists.

Putin is the dude with ultimatum trying to force something for about three month. The west simply ignored that faggot for a month but he needed to make a scene.

The last major sanctions were a while back, like 8 years ago. The new talk is just talk. Between then and now Russia ended up shooting Malaisian airliner and a lot of other bad things.

Ukraine is not friend of Iran, but guess who is ... Russia. Them, North Korea, China ... all good buds.

Putin already sold his asshole to Xi a while back, with most of Siberia. I think that Xi just wanted to keep him on a leash while CCP olympics are on, so Vlad doesn't wander off to europe with a bunch of guns.



Before I forget ... so you remember Orban traveling to Moscow to meet Vlad ... if you watch the presser, Russia supplies Hungary with 55% of its oil and 80% of its gas ... wait for it ... at below market rates! Plus students from Hungary can travel to Russia to study shit for free, something that not all Russians can. Best friends Vlad can buy.
 
this is thread is out-yourself autists.

Putin is the dude with ultimatum trying to force something for about three month. The west simply ignored that faggot for a month but he needed to make a scene.

The last major sanctions were a while back, like 8 years ago. The new talk is just talk. Between then and now Russia ended up shooting Malaisian airliner and a lot of other bad things.

Ukraine is not friend of Iran, but guess who is ... Russia. Them, North Korea, China ... all good buds.

Putin already sold his asshole to Xi a while back, with most of Siberia. I think that Xi just wanted to keep him on a leash while CCP olympics are on, so Vlad doesn't wander off to europe with a bunch of guns.



Before I forget ... so you remember Orban traveling to Moscow to meet Vlad ... if you watch the presser, Russia supplies Hungary with 55% of its oil and 80% of its gas ... wait for it ... at below market rates! Plus students from Hungary can travel to Russia to study shit for free, something that not all Russians can. Best friends Vlad can buy.

One fifth of a market price, if Putin was telling the truth. 80% off. Plus they are building our new reactors too.

That is quite the incentive to block obnoxious land thieves from Nato.
 
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this is thread is out-yourself autists.
Different opinion, instant autist......
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Putin is the dude with ultimatum trying to force something for about three month. The west simply ignored that faggot for a month but he needed to make a scene.
That area is a conflict zone with ongoing minor skirmishes since 2014 and long before that, the same goes for all those ex-soviet satellite states who are lead by corrupt dictators/governments who would sell there mother to the highest bidder, Ukraine wants to join the EU very badly and be part of NATO but gets rejected every time. So this situation goes on for years and no one gives a shit, save for some sanctions and stern words. Suddenly Biden takes the reigns in the USA with proven ties to Ukraine and gets his ass asap out of Afganistan, European elections conclude with major victories for the Liberal left globalists, Ukraine cries wolf and the drums of war starts to sound. Putin build up a massive army yet don't invade, Western media and even our government is screaming that Russia is launching his nukes any minute now and we need to support Ukraine with everything we have and thus they keep fanning the flames of war.
The last major sanctions were a while back, like 8 years ago.
The latest are from 2020 source.
The new talk is just talk. Between then and now Russia ended up shooting Malaisian airliner and a lot of other bad things.
I believe the Ukraine army fucked up huge and all the blame got pushed on Russia because Russia bad, i am Dutch and i followed the developments closely and the whole situation stinks, i believe the Ukrainian air-force shot down the plane in a bout of confusion and tragedy happened, and that plane shouldn't been there in the first place.
Ukraine is not friend of Iran, but guess who is ... Russia. Them, North Korea, China ... all good buds.
Ukraine would befriend Adolf Hitler if the situation depended in it Oh wait they didt. They even have a monument dedicated to them.
Putin already sold his asshole to Xi a while back, with most of Siberia. I think that Xi just wanted to keep him on a leash while CCP olympics are on, so Vlad doesn't wander off to europe with a bunch of guns.
That could be so, but our Western attitude sure isn't helping.
Before I forget ... so you remember Orban traveling to Moscow to meet Vlad ... if you watch the presser, Russia supplies Hungary with 55% of its oil and 80% of its gas ... wait for it ... at below market rates! Plus students from Hungary can travel to Russia to study shit for free, something that not all Russians can. Best friends Vlad can buy.
Good for Orban, the European Union has been an ass to him and trying to make him kneel by demanding he would let thousands of niggers and immigrants into his country. He held his ground and guess who has a energy bill that hasn't risen to the heavens?? hint: not me.

I'm not a Putin simp, but i cant escape the notion that the resent developments are wholly to blame on Biden, Ukraine and the warmongers here in Western Europe. They keep creeping up towards his borders and placing missiles basically in his backyard. I don't give a fuck about Ukraine, it could be a giant swimming pool for all i care and certainly not something the whole world should go to war for. We shouldn't trust Putin because he is ex-KGB and a dictator lite, but i don't think he is a insane psychopath the media make him out to be.
 
One fifth of a market price, if Putin was telling the truth. 80% off. Plus they are building our new reactors too.

That is quite the incentive to block obnoxious land thieves from Nato.

holy shit, 1/5th of market price! That's a great deal, if only Russian citizens living in Russia could get that long term deal. From what I hear the gas rates in Moscow district just went up, again, with the last bill.

Vlad ranted on and on about NATO and asshole NATO countries, like Poland, Baltics ... (but forgetting to mention Hungary) and how they ignore him and just outright mean to Russia.

You should really stop following Eastern European news outlets.

The joint presser is in public domain, unless you think it's some deep fake:



I believe the Ukraine army fucked up huge and all the blame got pushed on Russia because Russia bad, i am Dutch and i followed the developments closely and the whole situation stinks, i believe the Ukrainian air-force shot down the plane in a bout of confusion and tragedy happened, and that plane shouldn't been there in the first place.

Ukraine would befriend Adolf Hitler if the situation depended in it Oh wait they didt. They even have a monument dedicated to them.

Negro, please, Datch Safety Board (together with other countries) investigated Malaisian Boing affair, the biggest investigation in its history, there are literally 100s of docs, reconstructions and photo evidence of the Buc traveling from Russia ... if all of that still makes you think Ukis did it, there is nothing I can add.

Dutch also served in Waffen-SS, but you know who didn't train Nazis, send them steel, raw materials, bread and congratulated them on their victories in Europe. Who was the only Nazi ally against Britain and France after Poland "disintegrated"? Who secured "long lasting friendship with blood" ... by fighting against Poland together, in some places literally shoulder to shoulder (Brest)

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you guys keep bringing this shit up over and over again, it's like I need to make a fucking separate thread and just point your ass next time



But since we are on topic of poor commies (social too) bitching about who is attacking whom, that shit goes waaay back and could be seen in Stalin's statement:

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Verbatim words from Stalin:
"a: Not Germany attacked France and England, it's France and England who attacked Germany, taking responsibility for the current war"

That's USSR/Russia in a nutshell.
 
It only matters that we get some of our most basic import needs met cheaply. If Iran, Korea or China did it, we would accept too. We both allied with Hitler, but I'm not the one butt blasted about it. It made sense, he was the only one to deal with us instead of ignore us.

If Trump won and went "No Hungary, I'll give you gas and reactors for free, it will be a YUGE deal!" than we would simps for the US. But they didn't. Can't blame ruskies for exploiting that. Can't not blame the current clown in charge of Ukraine being rude to us either. He made his bed, we block his nato stuff.
 
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Dutch also served in Waffen-SS.
True when the queen fled the country and left the Dutch to fend for themselves, many were disappointed and picked up the SS uniform to fight against communism and found themselves connecting with the values of the German Reich. I made that point not to blame Ukraine for joining herr Adolf but to clarify no nation is infallible so we should take caution instead of going all in with Ukraine and burning bridges which may need a lot of suffering to repair.

Negro, please, Dutch Safety Board (together with other countries) investigated Malaisian Boeing affair, the biggest investigation in its history, there are literally 100s of docs, reconstructions and photo evidence of the Buc traveling from Russia ... if all of that still makes you think Ukis did it, there is nothing I can add.
That may well be so and maybe its really Ivan who shot that plane, still the fact remains the plane shouldn't have been there above an area of conflict. No other company dared to fly over that area at the time yet Malaysia Airlines ignored advice and tragedy happened. Long before investigation was even started, everybody was pointing the finger at Russia so the investigation seemed a little based. There is also the issue some renowned experts argue that the Buc in question was an old outdated one and taking out a plane with it at that altitude would be next to impossible, there was also the radio chatter of the Ukraine forces which can be traced back to active Ukrainian military personnel, which basically implied that they shot the plane by accident, and so forth.

I don't argue for us to drop our pants, hand Putin the Vaseline and thank him for being a sensitive lover, caution is advised and certainly when politics are involved with Russia but it isn't the same nation when it was under the Cccp, i think they can be a good trading partner and will respond to strong leadership and boundaries. What happens in Ukraine, Belarus or whatever shouldn't be our business, its arrogant and hypocrite to demand the whole world to abide to our way of government because western democracy isn't heaven either.
Our own leaders have gone fucking insane and almost full authoritarian, embraced globalism, open borders, climate panic, LGBT insanity and now war, this almost make Putin looking like the lesser of evils.
Take for example the Olympic Winter games happening right now, if our government really cared about the injustice done to the people of Ukraine by Putin like they claim in the media, wouldn't they tell Jin xi pooh to shove the games in his yellow ass??, for the Ccp still commits genocide on a large scale, and annexed Tibet through force. But no, our major news agency proudly declared the first athlete victory Uyghurs be damned. They will do the same to Ukraine if it serves their agenda its all a game.
 
Again, saying that "they allied with Adolf" is moot when eastern europe is concerned. Russia and Ukraine can ree at each other for being a nazi, but they were both allied with them at some point so its pretty much just autistic screeching for propaganda.

Its like a nigger calling another nigger a thief. They all did, expect Poland, and we know what happened to Poland.
 
It only matters that we get some of our most basic import needs met cheaply. If Iran, Korea or China did it, we would accept too. We both allied with Hitler, but I'm not the one butt blasted about it. It made sense, he was the only one to deal with us instead of ignore us.

If Trump won and went "No Hungary, I'll give you gas and reactors for free, it will be a YUGE deal!" than we would simps for the US. But they didn't. Can't blame ruskies for exploiting that. Can't not blame the current clown in charge of Ukraine being rude to us either. He made his bed, we block his nato stuff.

I'm all for each country to determine it's own path, be nationalist and proud of its own people, history, accomplishments and act in its own self interest. Bravo. This is how it should be. Your country comes first.

That said, it's an ethical dilemma how far you go in calling "not my circus, not my monkeys". Do you let a pedo have its way because that's not your kid? Shit like that is what makes life interesting.

I don't argue for us to drop our pants, hand Putin the Vaseline and thank him for being a sensitive lover, caution is advised and certainly when politics are involved with Russia but it isn't the same nation when it was under the Cccp, i think they can be a good trading partner and will respond to strong leadership and boundaries. What happens in Ukraine, Belarus or whatever shouldn't be our business, its arrogant and hypocrite to demand the whole world to abide to our way of government because western democracy isn't heaven either.
Our own leaders have gone fucking insane and almost full authoritarian, embraced globalism, open borders, climate panic, LGBT insanity and now war, this almost make Putin looking like the lesser of evils.
Take for example the Olympic Winter games happening right now, if our government really cared about the injustice done to the people of Ukraine by Putin like they claim in the media, wouldn't they tell Jin xi pooh to shove the games in his yellow ass??, for the Ccp still commits genocide on a large scale, and annexed Tibet through force. But no, our major news agency proudly declared the first athlete victory Uyghurs be damned. They will do the same to Ukraine if it serves their agenda its all a game.

I'm well aware that most goverments don't represent its people well, sometimes not at all, and I mean like an average citizen, never mind the exceptional individuals who care to argue about politics and history instead of consooming.


Again, saying that "they allied with Adolf" is moot when eastern europe is concerned. Russia and Ukraine can ree at each other for being a nazi, but they were both allied with them at some point so its pretty much just autistic screeching for propaganda.

Its like a nigger calling another nigger a thief. They all did, expect Poland, and we know what happened to Poland.

Ukraine and Poland got stuck between two totalitarian regimes of Nazis and USSR and lost something like 40% of their total population in scorched earth treatment. None of them has aspirations to invade anyone, just restore and maintain their statehoods. Since WWI there were only two nigger countries whose two cousins basically fucked all of EU so hard I can trace the downfall of EU since.
 
Again, saying that "they allied with Adolf" is moot when eastern europe is concerned. Russia and Ukraine can ree at each other for being a nazi, but they were both allied with them at some point so its pretty much just autistic screeching for propaganda.

Its like a nigger calling another nigger a thief. They all did, expect Poland, and we know what happened to Poland.
westerners think ww2 was germany and japan versus the rest of the world lel
in reality large parts of europe were on the axis side from the beginning. italy slovakia croatia bulgaria hungary romania finland etc. arguably estonia lithuania latvia as well, but they were annexed by ussr before the war even began and just flipped from soviet occupation to german occupation and then back to soviet again.
 
Basically, yeah that makes it interesting. But generally, as long as no Hungarians are harmed, we are generally giving zero shits. It may sound cruel, but that's why the lgbtpedo rainbow and gypsies haven't managed to pozz us yet. Minority? Yeah, not Majority's problem.

The problem is, Zelensky really didn't want to maintain even the basest of relationship with Hungary, and Russia is doing the whole "hey buddy here is a free beer" thing.

Poland and Ukraine have a very good reason to hate Russia. We just got a very good reason, I mean bribe, to enable them. Only way Russia could sweeten the deal would be throwing in some land gains at us.

Nazi Germany did a great way to make all these antagonistic countries submit. I have to admire the diplomatic genious that went into that move.
"Hey Romania, Slovakia, Ukraine, Hungary, you want your territory? Well who brings me the most dead jews wins it!" and all obliged.
 
I find it pretty exceptional that Joe and Co. think they're going to win the hearts and minds of legions of Eastern Ukrainian Russians who want to be Russians. These are not timid Germans from Alsace my dudes, that pre-WWI Balkan powder keg turned into a hugeass powder magazine. If the ball gets rolling, letting Ukrainian nationalists commit a genocide will look pretty bad on the resume. it will become Afghanistan all over again, but this time in Soviet apartment blocks instead of mountains.
 
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