Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[UncleTusky]

Kiwis,
Any stats on whether the epidemic of trans homicides is disproportionately high? It's regularly described as a 'genocide'. Is that true or bullshit?? I just don't believe it's not mostly to do with engaging in risky behaviours notorious for increasing your chances of being hurt.
(Meanwhile women are stalked and killed by husbands, boyfriends, crazy men, and no mainstream discussion of 'epidemic of hate crime murders'. )

It's bullshit. The trans day of remembrance website claims 53 deaths in 12 months in the US (source). The UCLA Williams Institute claims there are 1,397,150 transgender americans (source). This works out to a murder rate of about 3.8 per 100,000 or 1 per 26,361.

Now let's look at FBI crime statistics. Murder and non-negligent manslaughter had a rate of 5.0 per 100,000 (source). Trans people are about 25% less likely to be murdered even before you account for the fact that many of those deaths were not related to being trans at all, it was domestic-partner violence or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

An older Trans Day of Remembrance page which I cannot find right now also gave mini biographies of each person listed and a disproportionate number from Puerto Rico which is more violent than any US state. The murder rate for Puerto Rican transsexuals could be higher than the national average and it'd still tell us nothing besides "stay away from Puerto Rico, everybody gets shot there".

Edit: That day of rememberance page also proves the rest of the world is even safer for trans people than the US.

The 2020 US census gave a population of 331 million while a late 2021 estimate of world population claimed 7.9 billion people. This means the US has about 4 percent of the world's population so we'd expect 53 deaths / 0.04 = 1,325 dead trans people worldwide . But the day of remembrance's own website reports only 375 dead trans people world wide (source). Doing some really crude math this means the global trans murder rate is 375 / 1,325 * 3.8 = 1.07 murdered trans people per 100,000. This is probably lower than anywhere in the world other than wealthy countries with generous welfare states like Monaco or Luxembourg.

 

[all4mom2]

Speaking of statistics... The risk of suicide increases AFTER the surgery. Guess no one told Jeanette that back in the day!

 

[Gramlol]

Speaking of statistics... The risk of suicide increases AFTER the surgery. Guess no one told Jeanette that back in the day!

And this is legal how exactly

..are the surgeons psychopaths or covert serial killers or just wanting a vivisection subject
Imagine cutting off a 17 year olds micropenis and reattaching stomach lining there, then giving them a big hug. Patrick Bateman/Dr Death vibes. Mission killers who hate gay kids?

 

[Putin Bot]

An older Trans Day of Remembrance page which I cannot find right now also gave mini biographies of each person listed and a disproportionate number from Puerto Rico which is more violent than any US state. The murder rate for Puerto Rican transsexuals could be higher than the national average and it'd still tell us nothing besides "stay away from Puerto Rico".

I think now that most of the tranny murders are happening in Brazil, if I remember correctly. And I think the high number is due to the amount who are sex workers, and how Brazil is a shitty country anyway.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

Speaking of statistics... The risk of suicide increases AFTER the surgery. Guess no one told Jeanette that back in the day!

There was no one to tell her, tbh. People trust their doctors, and the doctors she saw told her she needed to "help" Jazz otherwise he'd try to kill himself.

For all the evil she was able to do, we can't ignore that she didn't think of all of it herself: this is the info she was fed with.

 

[Putin Bot]

There was no one to tell her, tbh. People trust their doctors, and the doctors she saw told her she needed to "help" Jazz otherwise he'd try to kill himself.

For all the evil she was able to do, we can't ignore that she didn't think of all of it herself: this is the info she was fed with.

Jeanette admitted to doctor shopping until she found a doctor willing to experiment on Jazz and has admitted that she was making Jazz a medical guinea pig.

This woman knew exactly of what she was doing to Jazz.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I think now that most of the tranny murders are happening in Brazil, if I remember correctly. And I think the high number is due to the amount who are sex workers, and how Brazil is a shitty country anyway.

I mentioned this in another thread, but down here in S. Am, it's not uncommon for poor gay men to become prostitutes and they dress as women to do so. They aren't "trans", they're just transvestites (which is what most so-called trans really are.)

 

[Putin Bot]

I mentioned this in another thread, but down here in S. Am, it's not uncommon for poor gay men to become prostitutes and they dress as women to do so. They aren't "trans", they're just transvestites (which is what most so-called trans really are.)

The trans umbrella now encompasses transvestites and GNC people too, as a way to bolster up the amount of trannies getting murdered.

 

[Marvin]

Is the trans murder rate actually disproportionately higher than women or average? There was an ep of a podcast I usually love but it was 'the epidemic of transgender women murders in the US'. How many? 24. And mostly sex workers. Female sex workers face insane violence, but somehow that's not considered a factor here.

Kiwis,
Any stats on whether the epidemic of trans homicides is disproportionately high? It's regularly described as a 'genocide'. Is that true or bullshit?? I just don't believe it's not mostly to do with engaging in risky behaviours notorious for increasing your chances of being hurt.
(Meanwhile women are stalked and killed by husbands, boyfriends, crazy men, and no mainstream discussion of 'epidemic of hate crime murders'. )

..the TERFs might have a point. Theres so much about pushing women down to boost superior (men) women down, before you even get to the pedophilia stuff.



That's all my sperg, ty. Poor Jazz, they still look like a little boy. With the body of a Michelin man.

What @twattycake said. Basically, in the US, they have a murder rate higher than women, because most murder victims are male. But they have a lower murder rate than the average American if you include both sexes. That's probably because trannies are, more often than not, spoiled suburban white people.

Also it's rare that transphobia actually accounts for any/many of those murders in any given year.

By the metric of "likely to be murdered" your average American tranny is safer than your average cis American.

 

[all4mom2]

People trust their doctors, and the doctors she saw told her she needed to "help" Jazz otherwise he'd try to kill himself..

Well, she trusted her cousin, who was an "expert" in the field, and that's what SHE told her. (Not a conspiracy theory, by the way; it's recounted in the cousin's own doctoral dissertation.)

Then she probably doctor-shopped for someone who would back it up (classic confirmation bias).

 

[Noir drag freak]

I mentioned this in another thread, but down here in S. Am, it's not uncommon for poor gay men to become prostitutes and they dress as women to do so. They aren't "trans", they're just transvestites (which is what most so-called trans really are.)

The model of South American homosexuality is probably the passive and active model. It isn’t gay if it’s receiving and dressed like a female.

 

[TerfSmurf]

I think now that most of the tranny murders are happening in Brazil, if I remember correctly. And I think the high number is due to the amount who are sex workers, and how Brazil is a shitty country anyway.

I think now that most of the tranny murders are happening in Brazil, if I remember correctly. And I think the high number is due to the amount who are sex workers, and how Brazil is a shitty country anyway.

Ironically, people who insist TWAW often overlap with people who support societal acceptance of prostitution.

 

[CrispyGonad]

The thing is, Noah's argument is that it shouldn't matter for short flings. Noah is trying to keep the focus on "having kids" because the more profound truth is that normal people don't want to bang rot pockets or arm sausages, and that's a lot harder for Noah to argue about.

But for the longer term relationship issue, I'd want to ask Noah what if instead of the children situation, we were talking about someone who had a serious disease that would kill them before they're 40. If a woman was looking for a long term relationship, would it be unjustifiably selfish to reject a particular man as a potential long term partner because the man had a disease that would kill them before they're 40?

I think that question would throw Noah for a loop. It's the same parameters as the fertility issue, but the troons can't dodge it by pretending most people are childfree spergs.

A man's gotta eat...

It's like if someone inherits a condition that has a 50/50 chance of affecting any offspring, it's wrong of them to go into a relationship without letting their partner know there's a strong chance their kids will inherit it.

Noah's morals are all over the place on this as she seems determined to inflict her delusions on the rest of society (as with most troons) and gets angry and confrontational when they're questioned. I think deep down, she knows the gravy train's about to be derailed and is headed for a fiery end in fucked up station.

 

[trickyzerg23]

UPDATE: my react goal was met. Here is the mp3

I wonder how Jazz’s Amhole is today. Festooned with ribbons of scar tissue, dried blood, and hardened mucus? Moist and funky?

My Amhole has a first name:
Bologna in my Pants.
My Amhole has a last name:
Bloody Rectum Bits.

I wish I were an Amhole
With depth of nigh two feet
I wish I were an Amhole
Or a Teet that you could Yeet,

Oh!

I WISHHHHHH I WERE AN AMHOLE.

I will sing this for the Farmers and post it if I get ten Horrifying reacts. I will settle for five autisms and two islamics

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Any stats on whether the epidemic of trans homicides is disproportionately high?

Whatever it is, it's not enough.

 

[Lazy Printer]

I wonder how Jazz’s Amhole is today. Festooned with ribbons of scar tissue, dried blood, and hardened mucus? Moist and funky?

My Amhole has a first name:
Bologna in my Pants.
My Amhole has a last name:
Bloody Rectum Bits.

I wish I were an Amhole
With depth of nigh two feet
I wish I were an Amhole
Or a Teet that you could Yeet,

Oh!

I WISHHHHHH I WERE AN AMHOLE.

I will sing this for the Farmers and post it if I get ten Horrifying reacts. I will settle for five autisms and two islamics

Its probably closed already.

 

[Howslans]

What @twattycake said. Basically, in the US, they have a murder rate higher than women, because most murder victims are male. But they have a lower murder rate than the average American if you include both sexes. That's probably because trannies are, more often than not, spoiled suburban white people.

Also it's rare that transphobia actually accounts for any/many of those murders in any given year.

By the metric of "likely to be murdered" your average American tranny is safer than your average cis American.

Quick search of murder rates in US in 2020:

trans: 44

women: 3573

 

[fhqwhgads]

Quick search of murder rates in US in 2020:

trans: 44

women: 3573

That's not rate, rate takes into account population size. There are a lot more women being murdered than transwomen, but then there are a lot more women to murder. Without digging out any stats, I would bet that transwomen are murdered at a higher rate than women, just as they commit murder at a higher rate than women... because they're men.

 

[Howslans]

That's not rate, rate takes into account population size. There are a lot more women being murdered than transwomen, but then there are a lot more women to murder. Without digging out any stats, I would bet that transwomen are murdered at a higher rate than women, just as they commit murder at a higher rate than women... because they're men.

Damn you making me do maths on a Sunday.

Huh. Would you look at that:

Murder rate in US 2020 for troons per 100 000: 3.14
Murder rate in US 2020 for women per 100 000: 2.15
Murder rate in US 2020 for men per 100 000: 10.95

I stand corrected.

I would guess that the number of troons In 2020 is higher than recorded though, they seem to be fucking everywhere these days.

 

[The Jewel of the Nile]

I wonder how many of these outrageously racist posters are FBI “glowies.”

Wait, you can get paid for being a racist online? Damn. All this time I've been doing it for free. Where can I apply?