Grand Jury speculation thread

[Space_Dandy]

It's a good thing that Chris is in jail in the mean time, but what does this say about our justice system, where someone who may well be innocent can be held for half a year?

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

But parrots are smart.

Evil, but smart.

I wouldn't necessarily call them evil. They're more like a destructive three year old who can live for 80 years and demands your constant attention.

Ok, but that does not mean that Welfare created Chris. Welfare does help people who through no fault of their own need a helping hand.

Abolishing it because of Chris is not really a thorough justification, nor is it really the fault of the existence of welfare.

But I can see your mind is made up, so.....,..

The biggest issue with welfare is it creates a cycle of dependence and it's almost impossible to break free of. And for some people it's literally their best way of being able to deal with the world. The problem is that while there are people who abuse the system, most them don't and simply can't function in society. Chris is one of them. What he needs is a tard wrangler with him. Somebody who controls his money, controls his spending habits and stops him from buying all this unnecessary crap.

 

[DejaThoris]

It's a good thing that Chris is in jail in the mean time, but what does this say about our justice system, where someone who may well be innocent can be held for half a year?

People accused of far worse than Chris get out on bond. I have seen people speculate that Chris's lawyer is just letting him stay in jail so that if he gets sentenced, he will have his time in jail go towards time served. The end goal being to keep Chris out of prison.

Example: Chris spends a total of 6 months in jail waiting on a trial/plea/verdict. He gets sentenced to 1 year incarceration. His 6 months time served go towards that so he would only have 6 months left to serve. You generally won't get sent to prison for 6 months, so he would get to just stay where he is at in jail for another 6 months and avoid prison altogether.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Well since it started with bob pretty much unintentionally teaching him of being a larper and that people should live of SS 24/7 and Chris at that time had never had a job minus the Wendy’s incident when in fact he should of gotten a job instead of larping of the government’s own money as a leech

The bigger problem is that Bob told Chris that being on the Tugboat was going to get him more money than if he got a job. Chris has held on to this statement for his entire life as justification for not getting a job even though obviously the reality is far more complicated and having a job is simply far better.

People accused of far worse than Chris get out on bond. I have seen people speculate that Chris's lawyer is just letting him stay in jail so that if he gets sentenced, he will have his time in jail go towards time served. The end goal being to keep Chris out of prison.

There's no way Chris would ever be allowed out on bond if it got to that point. Nobody related to Chris gives enough of a fuck and I don't think weens would be stupid enough to put themselves on the line for the sake of Chris.

 

[Josterman]

The bigger problem is that Bob told Chris that being on the Tugboat was going to get him more money than if he got a job. Chris has held on to this statement for his entire life as justification for not getting a job even though obviously the reality is far more complicated and having a job is simply far better.

There's no way Chris would ever be allowed out on bond if it got to that point. Nobody related to Chris gives enough of a fuck and I don't think weens would be stupid enough to put themselves on the line for the sake of Chris.

Yes that is what I was trying to get across

 

[Mason Verger]

It's a good thing that Chris is in jail in the mean time, but what does this say about our justice system, where someone who may well be innocent can be held for half a year?

More like what does it say about Chris’s “innocence” for them to keep a potential PR disaster of a semi-famous autistic tranny locked up for half a year without a second thought.

 

[Cybertonia]

It's a good thing that Chris is in jail in the mean time, but what does this say about our justice system, where someone who may well be innocent can be held for half a year?

Well I mean that's usually what happens when you sperg out at your own bond hearing

 

[King Kiwi]

Well I mean that's usually what happens when you sperg out at your own bond hearing

Chris has never been separated from his toys for so long.

They're the only thing he can molest that won't fight him at all.

You'd be a little shell shocked, too.

 

[Level 43]

having a job is simply far better.

Imagine having to have Chris as a co-worker

 

[Rupin]

Imagine having to have Chris as a co-worker

will never happen. Chris and work don’t mix.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Basically, if you think Chris couldn't and wouldn't molest a child, you really haven't been paying attention. I don't necessarily believe that Chris would stand outside of daycare centers plotting how to abduct the kids inside. But all the same, I absolutely would not place Chris alone in a room with a child.

I don't think Chris would have sex with a child. You're absolutely right that Chris is an opportunist and will mentally self-justify something he wants to do, but it still has to be something he *wants* to do.

For instance, Chris wanted to fuck Barb. A lot of us ignored the warning signs out of optimism or whatever (I'm guilty of this too), or assumed it was some sort of moral event horizon that he wouldn't cross, but he did. We're wiser about that today.

On the other hand, we're still pretty sure Chris was not fucking his pets. He didn't bring up fucking his pets, and he didn't even really want to talk about the idea when weens pressured him into it. He had plenty of unsupervised access to his pets, so if he wanted to fuck them he probably would have, and he would have definitely spilled the beans about it by now.

Chris has never shown interest in children. He *has* shown some interest in biological adult minors on a few occasions, so would he commit statutory rape given the opportunity and nothing to dissuade him in the moment? Probably.

The only time he's even brought up something remotely involving actual children was his Jenkins Jinkies backstory, and it was presented as something very negative that disturbed him -- probably because he thought a backstory like that is what caused trolls to be the way they are.

So would Chris rape a child? No. Not because he has a good sense of morality, but simply because he doesn't want to, in the same way he doesn't fuck Clover even though he can.

 

[Mason Verger]

I don't think Chris would have sex with a child. You're absolutely right that Chris is an opportunist and will mentally self-justify something he wants to do, but it still has to be something he *wants* to do.

For instance, Chris wanted to fuck Barb. A lot of us ignored the warning signs out of optimism or whatever (I'm guilty of this too), or assumed it was some sort of moral event horizon that he wouldn't cross, but he did. We're wiser about that today.

On the other hand, we're still pretty sure Chris was not fucking his pets. He didn't bring up fucking his pets, and he didn't even really want to talk about the idea when weens pressured him into it. He had plenty of unsupervised access to his pets, so if he wanted to fuck them he probably would have, and he would have definitely spilled the beans about it by now.

Chris has never shown interest in children. He *has* shown some interest in biological adult minors on a few occasions, so would he commit statutory rape given the opportunity and nothing to dissuade him in the moment? Probably.

The only time he's even brought up something remotely involving actual children was his Jenkins Jinkies backstory, and it was presented as something very negative that disturbed him -- probably because he thought a backstory like that is what caused trolls to be the way they are.

So would Chris rape a child? No. Not because he has a good sense of morality, but simply because he doesn't want to, in the same way he doesn't fuck Clover even though he can.

While all true, we’re pushing the “child” part of CP. The law just has to prove it’s a minor for him to catch some charges.

 

[Holiday Special]

Never say never.

The only way Chris goes back to 14BC is to collect any remaining toys that Harriet and Tom didn't throw away, under a police escort.

 

[ObservingTheMadness]

Chris-Chan in all likelihood will be confined to a ward.

 

[Spergichu]

So do we have a new hearing date yet?

 

[silentium]

even though obviously the reality is far more complicated and having a job is simply far better.

This is of course a true statement but it also hinges on Chris being able to find stable employment and not get fired over and over. Which is, and was already at the time Bob got him on the tugboat, very doubtful. I can't see 00:s Chris not managing to fuck up a job as a janitor or grocery bagger for instance.

 

[A Flying Nun]

I don't think Chris would have sex with a child. You're absolutely right that Chris is an opportunist and will mentally self-justify something he wants to do, but it still has to be something he *wants* to do.

For instance, Chris wanted to fuck Barb. A lot of us ignored the warning signs out of optimism or whatever (I'm guilty of this too), or assumed it was some sort of moral event horizon that he wouldn't cross, but he did. We're wiser about that today.

On the other hand, we're still pretty sure Chris was not fucking his pets. He didn't bring up fucking his pets, and he didn't even really want to talk about the idea when weens pressured him into it. He had plenty of unsupervised access to his pets, so if he wanted to fuck them he probably would have, and he would have definitely spilled the beans about it by now.

Chris has never shown interest in children. He *has* shown some interest in biological adult minors on a few occasions, so would he commit statutory rape given the opportunity and nothing to dissuade him in the moment? Probably.

The only time he's even brought up something remotely involving actual children was his Jenkins Jinkies backstory, and it was presented as something very negative that disturbed him -- probably because he thought a backstory like that is what caused trolls to be the way they are.

So would Chris rape a child? No. Not because he has a good sense of morality, but simply because he doesn't want to, in the same way he doesn't fuck Clover even though he can.

A very important amendment to this post is that Chris is the most easily influenced being ever. His entire life is basically just him copying whatever media was in front of him and morphing it so that he was the center of the universe in it. Sonic, Pokemon, Rick and Morty, the initial SJW outbreak movement, the friggin' Bible...you name it, he's obsessed over it and inserted himself to be the center of attention in it.

I've said this before, but the simple fact we're having this conversation and discussing the possibility of Chris being a pedophile means it's entirely possible for Chris to be a pedophile, simply because some ill-meaning trolls would cling to the idea and tell Chris that diddling kids is "totes cool" just to get their 5 minutes of fame, and Chris in his infinite capacity to fuck up, would absolutely have a strong chance of listening to them.

Is Chris a pedophile? No he isn't, I agree. Left to his own devices, he would never diddle kids. He's rarely left to his own devices though, and so we cannot safely say Chris would never diddle a kid, because the moment some woman with Double-Ds is telling him all the cool kids are doing it or the moment Chris is bunking in a jail cell with other pedophiles, he is absolutely at risk of being influenced to diddle kids.

 

[dillybars]

A very important amendment to this post is that Chris is the most easily influenced being ever. His entire life is basically just him copying whatever media was in front of him and morphing it so that he was the center of the universe in it. Sonic, Pokemon, Rick and Morty, the initial SJW outbreak movement, the friggin' Bible...you name it, he's obsessed over it and inserted himself to be the center of attention in it.

I've said this before, but the simple fact we're having this conversation and discussing the possibility of Chris being a pedophile means it's entirely possible for Chris to be a pedophile, simply because some ill-meaning trolls would cling to the idea and tell Chris that diddling kids is "totes cool" just to get their 5 minutes of fame, and Chris in his infinite capacity to fuck up, would absolutely have a strong chance of listening to them.

Is Chris a pedophile? No he isn't, I agree. Left to his own devices, he would never diddle kids. He's rarely left to his own devices though, and so we cannot safely say Chris would never diddle a kid, because the moment some woman with Double-Ds is telling him all the cool kids are doing it or the moment Chris is bunking in a jail cell with other pedophiles, he is absolutely at risk of being influenced to diddle kids.

I don’t think Chris has any truly tacit knowledge of what empathy is. He knows emotions purely through a “slice of life” lens. He talks about all this shit but he punches holes in the walls and rapes his mother. Dude has no sense.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Is Chris a pedophile? No he isn't, I agree. Left to his own devices, he would never diddle kids. He's rarely left to his own devices though, and so we cannot safely say Chris would never diddle a kid, because the moment some woman with Double-Ds is telling him all the cool kids are doing it or the moment Chris is bunking in a jail cell with other pedophiles, he is absolutely at risk of being influenced to diddle kids.

True, but it's easier to get Chris to do some things than others. Half of all weens and really much of society at large has tried to get Chris to fuck men, because not only is it socially acceptable, but it grants you social superiority in today's western world, where homosexuality is seen as the morally superior orientation. Countless people have tried to make Chris gay, and have failed. The most they've been able to do is convince him to be a trans lesbian, and to be okay with casual flirty behavior with men. Chris still wants to fuck vagina with his penis, no matter how hard others have tried.

Meanwhile they were able to get him to troon out, which while more acceptable these days, also faces more social pushback from a big chunk of society in a way being a cisgendered homosexual does not.

Similarly a number of weens have tried to get him to fuck his pets, and made it sound cool. They have failed.

Influence works on Chris but it can only go so far. It's extremely hard to make Chris do something he doesn't want to do, and he'll only do it under immediate duress.

Chris wants to fuck women with boobs and vagina. That has never changed, from high school to present day. I don't think you could easily convince him to fuck kids, even if you told him it was awesome. The only thing that could get him in trouble is Virginia's unusually high age of consent.

That woman with boobs who tried to convince him... I don't think it would work. The woman would have to be actively directing the activity, and the logistics of something like that happening would be very, very unlikely. You can't just tell Chris to do something he doesn't want to do and expect him to do it, you have to be constantly there threatening him with punishment, or baiting him with china, such that the punishments and rewards are there at the front of his mind.

So do we have a new hearing date yet?

Not yet, though I'm sure it's in the system. Someone needs to call the Greene County J&DR clerk and ask.

 

[Ophelia]

I might worry about a mentally slow teenage girl if left alone with Chris. But the odds of that happening are slim and Chris might have to build up to it. Like if he was living with someone who had a daughter. Any younger than that just doesn’t seem like him.