Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Chilson]

outside of the bad math, can anyone come up with a legit better number, obvious the answer is "more" but i doubt people wouldn't still fuck her hard if she said "6 trillion"

Star wars (and most sci-fi franchises) are fucking awful at giving realistic numbers for what an actual galactic sized armies would look like, often thinking in far too small a size that would be big by relative earth armies. Its partially necessary in order to make the several hundred Jedi who exist not completely irrelevant on a galactic military scale (which they would be), but still laughable when they throw out millions and billions as if they are big numbers in such a massive galaxy.

Even Trillions of clones and millions of star ships would still be a small army by galactic scales. The truth is we would have to expand the size of armies up to Quadrillions and possibly even higher numbers than that to have a truly galactic military force capable of fighting on a galactic scale, such is the size of the galaxy.

 

[TinCan Wizard]

Well, Rise of Skywalker was already a retarded as hell retelling of Dark Empire, an impressive feat considering that was already one of the more controversial elements of the EU. All signs point to Mando or The Ahsoka Show containing Furloni's fanfic rewrite of the Thrawn Trilogy.

What if CGI Luke is actually Luuke?

 

[Midwit]

Star wars (and most sci-fi franchises) are fucking awful at giving realistic numbers for what an actual galactic sized armies would look like, often thinking in far too small a size that would be big by relative earth armies. Its partially necessary in order to make the several hundred Jedi who exist not completely irrelevant on a galactic military scale (which they would be), but still laughable when they throw out millions and billions as if they are big numbers in such a massive galaxy.

Even Trillions of clones and millions of star ships would still be a small army by galactic scales. The truth is we would have to expand the size of armies up to Quadrillions and possibly even higher numbers than that to have a truly galactic military force capable of fighting on a galactic scale, such is the size of the galaxy.

Quite frankly I don't give a fuck is the 'illions being used have the wrong prefix because, frankly, that shit doesn't fucking matter. People don't care about realism, they care about verisimilitude (the illusion of realism) because having a 100% realistic story about a space war is just a bunch of people sitting in offices as a frankly unimaginable number of men are sent into a meat grinder until one side eventually gives out is neither interesting or fun to watch, the reason for the whacky scaling of Star Wars is so that they can have a story about swashbuckling heroics that actually mean something in universe. There's a reason that war movies don't follow the squad of poor bloody infantry that get got by a CAS plane or a well placed artillery shell, and it's because of the fact that it doesn't make a very good story. Realism will always take a back seat to storytelling because otherwise you won't have a story to tell.

Frankly I'm sick and tired of scalefaggotry and I wish that the midwits perpetuating it would work it into their heads that it doesn't fucking matter.

 

[Chilson]

Quite frankly I don't give a fuck is the 'illions being used have the wrong prefix because, frankly, that shit doesn't fucking matter. People don't care about realism, they care about verisimilitude (the illusion of realism) because having a 100% realistic story about a space war is just a bunch of people sitting in offices as a frankly unimaginable number of men are sent into a meat grinder until one side eventually gives out is neither interesting or fun to watch, the reason for the whacky scaling of Star Wars is so that they can have a story about swashbuckling heroics that actually mean something in universe. There's a reason that war movies don't follow the squad of poor bloody infantry that get got by a CAS plane or a well placed artillery shell, and it's because of the fact that it doesn't make a very good story. Realism will always take a back seat to storytelling because otherwise you won't have a story to tell.

Frankly I'm sick and tired of scalefaggotry and I wish that the midwits perpetuating it would work it into their heads that it doesn't fucking matter.

I am not saying you can't tell a story about a lone squad or whatever because ultimately the scale doesn't matter in a story because the story itself should be enough to carry the audience through it with minimal breaches of immersion. However, if your trying to tell multiple stories in a GALATIC SETTING undergoing massive wars its best to try and do your best to make it at least sound like its somewhat realistic to keep the illusion going for the audience.

Trying to pass off millions or even billions of soldiers as some kind of gigantic military when your chosen scale is the galaxy will always be silly and takes quite a few people (myself included) who understand the scale out of the illusion. The prequels will always break my immersion as I laugh at Lucas thinking "200,000 units and a million more on the way" is some kind of impressive number for an army expected to fight nearly half the galaxy. There is a reason the EU tried desperately to fix this glaring issue by pumping up those numbers and the original trilogy never even bothered to put numbers to it all.

Its better to ignore the scale then put numbers to it if you don't understand the scale is ultimately all I am saying.

 

[The Valeyard]

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In Filoni's version of the Thrawn Trilogy a clone of Maul will stand in for Joruus C'Baoth and create a clone of either Ahsoka or Space Aladdin.

 

[Sneed F91]

What is it with this franchise that attracts the biggest hacks in the industry? Filoni, Kennedy, Kasdan, Abrams, Johnson, etc. It's like you're not allowed to work on Star Wars if you have talent.

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Give it a few more years. I still can't get over how they spent so much time on his face but gave him such weird looking CGI hair. Also his voice is just off, like whoever they got is trying way too hard to be stoic or something when Mark's performance in the movies had a lot of humanity to it.

 

[starborn427614]

What is it with this franchise that attracts the biggest hacks in the industry? Filoni, Kennedy, Kasdan, Abrams, Johnson, etc. It's like you're not allowed to work on Star Wars if you have talent.

Give it a few more years. I still can't get over how they spent so much time on his face but gave him such weird looking CGI hair. Also his voice is just off, like whoever they got is trying way too hard to be stoic or something when Mark's performance in the movies had a lot of humanity to it.

It's not a VA, they've just taken lines from the OT and ran them through a process. It's...a bit dry. Like the CGI itself it's better than the last time it was used, but it's still far from perfect.

 

[XYZpdq]

Simply put, you can’t expect a voice performance to translate equally into live action. It’s why you don’t see Steve Blum playing a live-action Wolverine or Jason Spisak playing Loki or something like that. Katee Sackhoff is primarily a live-action woman (Battlestar Galactica and Longmire) so I guess she’s an exception, but Ashley still looks like she’s in her 20s, while Dawson looks like a middle-aged woman now, so playing an adult Ashoka would be more viable with her in live action.

there was a stretch when Hayter probably could have done a good job as live action Snake judging by his earlier work in Guyver 2 Dark Hero

 

[Creep3r]

There is a reason the EU tried desperately to fix this glaring issue by pumping up those numbers

The fuck are you on about? The only ones who dumped precise numbers were Traviss, Stover and Filoni and all their numbers were pathetically small. Everyone else just ignored those three and left the numbers vague or described them as "countless" or "omnipresent". I just explained this a few posts above yours.

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Disney: "Continues to put foreshadowing and references to the Sequels in all their Star Wars media, even having entire storylines to what will be the set up to the sequels."

Consumers: "Guys, they're totally retconning the sequels out of existence."

 

[Iceland Heavy]

The fuck are you on about? The only ones who dumped precise numbers were Traviss, Stover and Filoni and all their numbers were pathetically small, probably even smaller than the films. Everyone else just ignored those three and left the numbers vague or described them as "countless" or "omnipresent". I just explained this a few posts above yours.

It's why I'd prefer they'd have never defined the size of the clone or droid armies to begin with, that territory is best left to SpaceBattles and StarDestroyer autists. It shouldn't be surprising though that if you do decide to put down a solid number to get into a slapfight with said autists.

 

[Creep3r]

Disney: "Continues to put foreshadowing and references to the Sequels in all their Star Wars media, even having entire storylines to what will be the set up to the sequels."

Consumers: "Guys, they're totally retconning the sequels out of existence."

Like almost every episode of Mando and Book of Bob has a reference to TLJ, either through an alien from said film, a piece of tech, a casino planet reference, a reference to the TLJ guides and now even having Luke's fucking planet from TLJ and the Kylo Ren comic. And Filoni even worked with Rian, yet they still insist that Filoni is some secret avenger out to troll Rian. And if its not that its references to EAfront and now Dr. FUCKING Aphra.

Only retcon his crew offered was showing the Death Star II get obliterated unlike in Plan IX, but even that was more of a graphics department choice.

It's why I'd prefer they'd have never defined the size of the clone or droid armies to begin with, that territory is best left to SpaceBattles and StarDestroyer autists. It shouldn't be surprising though that if you do decide to put down a solid number to get into a slapfight with said autists.

That Traviss-Number drama was one of the biggest trashfires in the community at the time, and fittingly enough part of the anger was coming from crossposting SpaceBattles autists. Although compared to the bullshit we have today, that trashfire was hilarious by comparison. Pure nerdtism and faggotry from everyone involved at its most salty.

 

[The Valeyard]

Only retcon his crew offered was showing the Death Star II get obliterated unlike in Plan IX, but even that was more of a graphics department choice.

And for all we know, they could have gone back and fixed it like they did when removing Jeans Guy or fixing the Avengers Tower in Hawkeye so that it was consistent with the films.

 

[Adamska]

Hilariously, the closest thing that matches a true scale in military fighting was Warhammer 40k, where billions was more just used on a big campaign, not for the whole galaxy. Space Marines were also supposed to be the shock troopers where a chapter or two of them in conjunction with the IG were more than enough usually, mainly because they fired rocket powered nuclear 20mm bullets as their firearm and were beyond normal people by a fuckload.

Either way, it doesn't really matter because heehoo human brains suck at scale anyway. Countless works well enough for Star Wars, and the only thing I'll nail them on is forgetting that they should've had the Imperial Army appear more in the OT or in the books, since people don't know or care since they barely if at all see them.

 

[Creep3r]

And for all we know, they could have gone back and fixed it like they did when removing Jeans Guy or fixing the Avengers Tower in Hawkeye so that it was consistent with the films.

Not yet, but I think Porgcuck tried explaining it away by claiming that all the Death Star pieces were sucked into a hyperspace wormhole which is an idea stolen from Jedi Prince to explain why Endor didn't get slagged into oblivion. But all this does is contradict EAfront II which just shows a fuckton of metal floating over Endor and crashing into it.

Yet somehow Endor is fine in DisCanon despite all this crap.

Yet at the same time Filoni shows nothing left, so there shouldn't be any debris left. But also at the same time the pieces of the death star scene in EAfront II don't align with the pieces in Plan IX. Gee its almost as if all those promises for more continuity consistency were a load of crap and shit is more disjointed than ever before.

Even on reddit and fake geek sites who used to brag about how more consistent things would be now have to backtrack and pretend nothing is wrong or admit that things are even more broken now than before.

 

[starborn427614]

So what's the most obvious shit that could happen in the finale?
> Fennec and Cad Bane rematch (Didn't watch Bad Batch but I know they fought there)
>Boba riding a Rancor into battle
>Warrior Tusken showing up to save Boba

If there's going to be any causalities it'll be the Mods since they literally serve no purpose. I could see them bringing Luke back to Tatooine with Grogu, the latter having made his choice so everything leads directly into Mando S3.

 

[Adamska]

Not yet, but I think Porgcuck tried explaining it away by claiming that all the Death Star pieces were sucked into a hyperspace wormhole which is an idea stolen from Jedi Prince to explain why Endor didn't get slagged into oblivion. But all this does is contradict EAfront II which just shows a fuckton of metal floating over Endor and crashing into it.
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Yet somehow Endor is fine in DisCanon despite all this crap.
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Yet at the same time Filoni shows nothing left, so there shouldn't be any debris left. But also at the same time the pieces of the death star scene in EAfront II don't align with the pieces in Plan IX. Gee its almost as if all those promises for more continuity consistency were a load of crap and shit is more disjointed than ever before.

Even on reddit and fake geek sites who used to brag about how more consistent things would be now have to backtrack and pretend nothing is wrong or admit that things are even more broken now than before.
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Honestly this just gives me a neat visual of characters having to navigate and explore the Death Star graveyard as the build-up to a climax of sorts, where they know it's being used as a base for some spurious bad guy.

But that's just the dungeoneer DM part of me talking; I tend to love the atmosphere and there's nothing more tense than sifting through and exploring a wrecked graveyard in space that gives that vibe to me.

 

[Creep3r]

So what's the most obvious shit that could happen in the finale?
> Fennec and Cad Bane rematch (Didn't watch Bad Batch but I know they fought there)
>Boba riding a Rancor into battle
>Warrior Tusken showing up to save Boba

If there's going to be any causalities it'll be the Mods since they literally serve no purpose. I could see them bringing Luke back to Tatooine with Grogu, the latter having made his choice so everything leads directly into Mando S3.

>Tusken tot will probably show up. Save Bob like Bob saved him.
>Blue and Orange brawl is probably confirmed because they know each other and Filoni loves reunions.
>Rancor riding is what all the leaks say so that's probably confirmed.
>Shadow the Chewbacca will fight a lot of fish-heads.
>Darth Maul gets teased or that unshaven totty from Solo shows up and she has a row with chief Boba Fat
Baby Yeed is going to go back to Not-Boba for max marketing value despite making his season 2 appearance completely pointless cameo wank, and I'll just wait for the inevitable Doomcock and Savior Filoni damage control arc.

If the whole thing ends with Luke getting a visit from Kid Emo Ren my sides might burst from schadenfreude and I'm just going to try and screencap all the best copes.

 

[Sneed F91]

Disney: "Continues to put foreshadowing and references to the Sequels in all their Star Wars media, even having entire storylines to what will be the set up to the sequels."

Consumers: "Guys, they're totally retconning the sequels out of existence."

Disney could literally have Han, Leia, and Ben show up just like this to meet Luke in the next BoBF episode:

and the consoomers would still say "no guys I swear to god they're still reconning the sequels this is where the timeline splits Filoni is gonna save Star Wars dude you gotta trust me"

Speaking of deepfakes, they should have cast Sebastian Stan as young Luke. It would have been way cheaper than CGI-ing some guy's face and he looks a lot like Mark.

Not yet, but I think Porgcuck tried explaining it away by claiming that all the Death Star pieces were sucked into a hyperspace wormhole which is an idea stolen from Jedi Prince to explain why Endor didn't get slagged into oblivion. But all this does is contradict EAfront II which just shows a fuckton of metal floating over Endor and crashing into it.
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Yet somehow Endor is fine in DisCanon despite all this crap.
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Yet at the same time Filoni shows nothing left, so there shouldn't be any debris left. But also at the same time the pieces of the death star scene in EAfront II don't align with the pieces in Plan IX. Gee its almost as if all those promises for more continuity consistency were a load of crap and shit is more disjointed than ever before.

Even on reddit and fake geek sites who used to brag about how more consistent things would be now have to backtrack and pretend nothing is wrong or admit that things are even more broken now than before.
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>EAfront II
>The game that gave us an even dumber Palpatine plan after his death than whatever the hell he did in TROS
>a plan that also directly contradicts Disney's canon in the films
>Star Wars Canon Is Now Meaningless
It must be a strange feeling to be one of those fans that got ridiculed for liking the EU back in 2012-2014 knowing that Disney has created something just as bad if not worse and even less coherent than the EU. None of this would have happened if the Lucasfilm diversity squad Story Group actually did their damn job before the sequels came out.

 

[starborn427614]

If the whole thing ends with Luke getting a visit from Kid Emo Ren my sides might burst from schadenfreude and I'm just going to try and screencap all the best copes.

I think we're safe there, unless Han and Leia started boning the second the war was over. Knowing Han...