Canadian Truckers Convoy 2022 - The Leaf calls you a Nazi as he gasses you

I stand by what I said. Anything that happens past this point is a win for the truckers. I'm not an acclerationist—I swear. But this type of escalation is what we need. Things are darkest just before the dawn. That said, things are about to get really rough in Canada. If you don't wanna suffer through it pack your bags and get out ASAP.

I'm of two minds on this.

I'm Canadian. I got exposed in that fucking GiveSendGo hack. I've been to Ottawa. I'm active in the Telegram groups basically saying "Hey guys don't fucking talk to cops. Trudeau is asshole. Here's some stuff I found places (usually here)". I haven't posted publicly on Facebook, but sent photos from my visit to Ottawa to my mom and a coworker. I've made pro-Convoy messages on Reddit, news sites, and Youtube.

If Trudeau goes full jackboot, I hypothetically could get rounded up. Sure, everything I've done is 100% legal, but legality means jack shit in Canada.

On the other hand....the government will be hilariously overstepping. Outside of a few arrests for fucking mischief, no real crime has been committed. People have a right to fucking protest the government, especially in Ottawa, on Parliament Hill. If we can't protest there, where can we fucking protest? The border shit is similar. It's illegal sure, but I've been told that protests are supposed to be disruptive. A border crossing (when your fucking restrictions impact border travel) is a legitimate location. Again, fine them, arrest them for mischief, and enjoy the few weeks of cleanup. They'll probably be allowed on bail even before the last trucks are moved.

So, hey, if I stop posting for a while, play this in my honor:

 
Matt Taibbi did another paywalled Substack article on the Convoy protests on his Substack mailing list


The Great International Convoy Fiasco

As America puts the Canadian Prime Minister's unmentionables in a vice over a truck protest, it's clearer than ever: the world's leaders have forgotten how to govern​

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The White House issued a statement Friday, after Joe Biden chatted with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau:
The two leaders agreed that the actions of the individuals who are obstructing travel and commerce between our two countries are having significant direct impacts on citizens’ lives and livelihoods… The Prime Minister promised quick action in enforcing the law, and the President thanked him for the steps he and other Canadian authorities are taking to restore the open passage of bridges to the United States.
Translation: Biden told Trudeau his testicles will be crushed under a Bradley Fighting Vehicle if this trucker thing is allowed to screw up the Super Bowl, or Biden’s State of the Union address. Trudeau’s own statement that day came off like the recorded video message of a downed pilot:
I’ve been absolutely clear that using military forces against civilian populations, in Canada, or in any other democracy, is something to avoid having to do at all costs.
An anxious Trudeau promised to deploy law enforcement in a “predictable, progressive approach” that would emphasize fines and other punishments. Because demonstrators will see that the “consequences” for those continuing to engage in “illegal protests” are “going to be more and more extensive,” he said, “we are very hopeful” that “people will choose to leave these protests peacefully.”
Switching gears just a bit, he then added, “We are a long way from ever having to call in the military.”
Such a move, he said, would only be a “last resort.”
And, er: “We have to be ready for any eventuality”:
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"We are a long way from ever having to call in the military. Although, of course, we have to be ready for any eventuality. But it is not something we are seriously contemplating at this time,” says PM Trudeau when asked re: prospect of military role in ending blockades. #cdnpoli
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Trudeau’s speech was clearly designed to convey to protesters that he was under heavy pressure to call in the air strike, making the New York Times headline covering all this — “Trudeau Rejects Calls to Use Military to End Protests” — particularly humorous in its disingenuousness.
Now that the “Freedom Convoy” is inspiring similar protests not just in the United States but in France, Belgium, Australia, New Zealand, and other places, it’s clear every Western leader from Biden to Emmanuel Macron on down wants Trudeau, rather than any of them, to take the political hit that would ensue from any use-of-force resolution to this crisis. All of these leaders seem equally to be laboring under the delusion that a decisive enough ass-kicking in the Great White North will make this all go away. Until then, there seems to be no plan in any country that doesn’t involve tear gas, truncheons, or getting Facebook to blame troll farms in Bangladesh for stirring up the “discord”:
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PARIS - Interpellation sur les #ChampsElysees : tensions toujours en cours. #ConvoidelaLiberte @CLPRESSFR
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As for talking to protesters, that’s out of the question. As Politico recently put it, the “conspiratorial mindset” of the demonstrators means “sitting down with them could legitimize their concerns.” Since we can’t under any circumstances have that, the only option left is the military “eventuality.” Or, as former Obama Deputy Homeland Security Secretary and CNN analyst Juliette Kayyem (the same person who went nanny-bonkers over the Southwest Air “Let’s Go Brandon” incident) put it, “Slash the tires, empty gas tanks, arrest the drivers, and move the trucks.”
Any sane person should be able to see where any of these ideas would lead. The problem is, we’re heading into our third decade of Western leaders embracing not thinking ahead as a core national security concept. It’s like these people went to anti-governing school.
On February 4th, 2004, the Wall Street Journal published, “A Historian’s Take on Islam Steers U.S. in Terrorism Fight,” about the influence of a Princeton Scholar named Bernard Lewis on George W. Bush’s Iraq policy. The “Lewis Doctrine” was simple. The good professor believed there was no point to asking, Why do they hate us?, because the answer was so obviously rooted in a problem we couldn’t fix: Islam’s civilizational failure.
From the article:
“The question people are asking is why they hate us. That's the wrong question,” said Mr. Lewis on C-SPAN shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks. “In a sense, they’ve been hating us for centuries… You can’t be rich, strong, successful and loved, particularly by those who are not rich, not strong and not successful. So the hatred is something almost axiomatic. The question which we should be asking is, why do they neither fear nor respect us?”
For Mr. Lewis and officials influenced by his thinking, instilling respect or at least fear through force is essential for America’s security…
After Karl Rove summoned Lewis to brief the Bush White House, our leaders began talking about how dialogue with the Middle East was impossible. As theirs was a failed culture and ours a successful one, they would always hate us. Therefore, listening to why they hate us was unnecessary, since from a practical standpoint, the only way to end the “axiomatic” hatred was to make their societies less failure-ridden, i.e. more like us.
From there, they embarked upon a conscious strategy of not taking into consideration what other peoples or countries might think, as they launched their ingenious plan to turn Mesopotamia into Arizona by force.
A child could have grasped that invading Iraq, devastating its cities with “Shock and Awe” tactics, and scooping its citizens off the streets to God knows where to be waterboarded or worse, was only going to spawn a new generation of committed adversaries. Only people with heads as far up their own backsides as Karl Rove, David Frum, George W. Bush, Richard Perle, and Donald Rumsfeld could talk themselves into believing an entire region would accept without objections the stated rationale of our presence, as in, “Yes, we blew up your Dad yesterday, but in the long run, you’ll have voting and supermarkets!”
Even when your adversary is Osama bin Laden, if your goal is preventing future problems, you have to at least try to understand both the opposition’s thought process and the nature of its appeal. Is bin Laden likely to end up with more or fewer volunteers if we invade Iraq, if we start blowing up Mosques, or if photos leak out of, say, grinning female American soldiers taking selfies in front of bound, hooded Muslim men rolled into naked pyramids? Forget morality or ideology, these are basic strategic questions.
In the Bush years, thanks to people like Rove, the sensible or at least intellectually defensible concept, “We don’t negotiate with terrorists,” morphed into the much broader idea that it’s no longer necessary to understand the thinking of any adversary or oppositional group. It’s where the now-hegemonic idea that talking is weakness and not talking is strength was born.
Early in the 2008 presidential campaign, Barack Obama ripped this Bush administration innovation, saying:
The notion that somehow not talking to countries is punishment to them — which has been the guiding diplomatic principle of this administration — is ridiculous.
His primary opponent Hillary Clinton cried foul, saying it was “very irresponsible and frankly naive” to countenance an American president sitting down with the leaders of countries like Cuba, Venezuela, and Syria. Why, she said, those people would use the meetings for “propaganda points.” Unacceptable!
Not listening to terrorists or “rogue states” quickly turned into not listening to anyone, even at home. In 2016, the propaganda surrounding the motives behind both the Trump and Sanders campaigns was strikingly similar to the Bush-era takes on Why do they hate us? We were again told we didn’t need to ask questions about the sources of anger. Trump supporters were uneducated white men who couldn’t accept their loss of status, and “Bernie Bros” were a related species of hopeless malcontent, perhaps sharing an ancestor in the Pliocene period.
The Bush administration at least had a plan for dealing with Middle East discontent. It was idiotic beyond belief — invade the wrong country, democratize it by force, and solve the Arab inadequacy problem by turning them into Americans — but at least it was a plan.
There has never been a plan for dealing with the Trump phenomenon, or Leavers, or the gilets jaunes, or any other populist uprising in the modern era. All our leaders have come up with are strategies of suppression and containment: combinations of policing, surveillance, censorship, and propaganda (and even the propaganda is mostly just mocking). Over and over, we’re told the only thing we need to know about the opposition is that it’s insane, wrong, and won’t get anywhere. Which brings us back to the “Freedom Convoy.”
Virtually every news story that’s come out about the Canada protests has focused on bad behavior of individual protesters, or polls showing their supposed unpopularity, or news linking leaders to QAnon and vaccine skepticism and even Holocaust denial. Editors now routinely make sure that the word “Convoy” is surgically attached in headlines to delegitimizing rhetoric, as in the Independent’s “Freedom convoy’ pushed by QAnonor NBC’s “As U.S. ‘trucker convoy’ picks up momentum, foreign meddling adds to fray.” My favorite is from my old employers at Rolling Stone: A Porno-Metal Song About Gay Cowboys Is Disrupting the Anti-Vax Trucker Convoy.”
As for the protesters themselves, Vox just landed right back where Bernard Lewis was in 2004: “They are angry because they have lost.”
Let’s assume critics are right about everything: the protesters are a distinct minority, and unpopular, and maybe not even truckers mostly, and all far-right nuts whose brains have been scrambled by vaccine misinformation, and willingly led by QAnon figures and neo-Nazis, with the help of Russia and other “foreign threat actors.” I don’t think that portrait is right, but let’s say.
What would any of that change? Do people disappear once you’ve declared them illegitimate? Center-left leaders around the world seem more interested now in defending the principle of not listening than in the practical question of amping down tensions, a logistical problem that in this case needs to be solved somehow, sooner rather than later. A mass-covering of official ears while shouting “QAnon Holocaust Derp!” isn’t going to get it done, and sending in the military is pretty much guaranteed to work about as well as it did in the Middle East.
What’s happening in Canada and other countries seems less about specific demands than about the general principle of being listened to. Leaders like Trudeau could likely make this thing go away if they’d make even a slight gesture toward the idea that legitimate differences of opinion exist on questions like mandates, vaccine passports, surveillance tracking, lockdowns, the vaccination of children, and other matters. You don’t have to agree with people, just find a way to look at them without betraying your profound regret they were ever born. The longer this convoy phenomenon goes on, the clearer it becomes that none of the leaders involved knows how to do this. They’re not choosing to govern without listening. They just don’t know any other way.​
 
Say what you want, but I'm never going to buy the idea that a guy who dresses up like an Indian and says words like "peoplekind" is going to have the guts to start a civil war.
A lot of things can rapidly escalate in pretty unexpected ways, very quickly. The order might have been for the military to just rough up the truckers a smidge, but one jumpy or fanatic soldier, one poorly positioned child, one recording device...less likely things have happened. Imagine that clip hitting the net, some flag waving ten year old in a maple leaf hat getting blasted by a uniformed member of the Canadian Military on the orders of Trudeau. Picture their screaming parents being tackled to the ground and cuffed in the pooling blood of their child, all for the world to see.

Pray that God lifts the scales from the eyes of the Candian government, so that they can see the madness they court.
 
I'm just thinking of how fired up American truckers would get if they saw their fellow truckers getting bashed and mass arrested by the Canadian government.

We know the American powers that be are worried about these types of protests happening here, and I honestly can't think of a quicker way to make that a reality than for the Canadian military coming in and fucking up the protesters.
Some of the people there literally are American truckers. I don't know about the numbers, but it might be a good 10-15% at some places. Like imagine if 1/10 of the people at Tiananmen Square were Americans, and the American government decided to cheer on China about the massacre. Imagine the sort of protests and hatred people would have at the government.
problem is sadly i don't expect the police and armed forces to ever not listen to globohomo, when had they ever saw nah im not doing that.
All over the US since like 2019 where sheriff departments declared their counties "second amendment sanctuaries" and then later in 2020 where many of those same counties had sheriff's departments openly proclaiming they weren't enforcing mask mandates or any of that garbage. And while most of these counties were too out of the way for the organized riots, I'm sure they very closely watched those "peaceful protests" that summer and probably helped get that much-touted "93% peaceful" number since a group of trucked-in loons doesn't fuck around when there's like 20 cops ready to throw their ass in prison with no commie DAs to help them.
The other little saying he needs to keep in mind is, "You might choose when to start the war, but your enemy will decide when it's over."
Trudeau needs to remember that one famous quote attributed to him--"If you kill your enemies, they win."
I stand by what I said. Anything that happens past this point is a win for the truckers. I'm not an accelerationist—I swear. But this type of escalation is what we need. Things are darkest just before the dawn. That said, things are about to get really rough in Canada. If you don't wanna suffer through it pack your bags and get out ASAP.
A part of me wonders if this is deliberate on the part of the global elite. Push people to the breaking point so you get some organically formed resistance on a level like this. Procede to crush them and continue back down the course of the right side of history and the 1,000 year globohomo reich. The elite play the accelerationist game too, and that's exactly what 2020 was for them.
This could also draw in GB although I don't know if they have the will or the balls to get involved at this point, but they are certainly stupid enough to try. And finally the octoroon thot and her royal cuck can be properly ejected.
Britain has already gotten rid of the restrictions, and if things get too hot then the Queen can just say via the Governor-General of Canada "lolno" and dismiss Trudeau. I believe both Trudeau's Emergency Act and the restrictions can be suspended by the Governor-General if they needed to, but obviously the British government almost never gets involved in this sort of thing, especially since the last time they did (1975 in Australia) they fucked up relations between the two countries for decades.
 
No surprise considering Parisian police hire dudes barely intelligent enough to follow orders and baton-happy enough to please their masters.

According to locals I know, below-average scores in police tests can still get you a badge. Considering we're talking about police that went straight for the eyes back in the Gillets Jaunes protests, I wouldn't be surprised.

If there are frogs lurking the thread more knowledgeable than me, do correct me.
I think that retarded policeman dynamic is pretty well universal. There is that classic case where some guy in the US sued and lost, after being rejected from a police job for being too smart.

ABC News: Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops


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how does a vote work if they get it approved, does Miss Justin get to veto it or decline it with emergency powers?
With the way Canada's system of government is set up, it would be quite a big coup for that to pass through the House of Commons. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is prime minister because he is leader of the largest party; the Canadian system is kind of like if the US Speaker of the House were automatically also US President. Trudeau is PM because he was able to, in terms of support in the house. The only way this passes is in some remote circumstance that either his pseudo-coalition partners in the NDP betray, and/or Trudeau has some sort of caucus revolt or other sort of party whip failure within his Liberal Party.

That would be a big deal if that were to occur, Justin would probably lose his prime ministership, and Canada might even have a snap election. There is no prime ministerial veto, but if he gets a caucus revolt, then he may end up stabbed in the back and deposed by his own team. It's not unheard of. Jean Chretien was essentially booted out of his own prime ministership by uppity cabinet minister Paul Martin, who stole the PM position for himself, promptly lost the Liberal parliamentary majority, then outright lost the subsequent election to Stephen Harper.
 
That's the thing though: the removal of COVID mandates is the kind of trivial, lower-tier demand you typically work your way down to in negotiations.

And the government won't even bend on that.

Well, I do have a shred of hope. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the premiers of Saskatchewan and Alberta did ease the mandates in their respective provinces (unless they pulled back entirely on those without my notice), so in time, the Ontario and federal government will give in. For example, they could limit mask mandates by having them be worn in certain areas as opposed to all public places, or have vaccinations be made once a year just like Kenney of Alberta proposed.

This is not to say that the Canadian government will immediately become this angelic, merciful force in the Western world. I'm just saying that they're just weak enough to give in, a little bit.

With this said, I really wished I lived somewhere in the US; before the lockdowns even began, I knew it was a better place for me. I'm shelled up in some Toronto apartment, so do cut me some slack
 
Not saying it is Chinese troops, but we have a lot of Chinese nationals in our govt already. It doesn't really matter if they can't speak English well lol

Just keep watching footage as the situation develops, and keep your volume turned up. The odds of that many police officers being foreign-born Chinese Canadians with thick accents is miniscule.

But I'm very, very skeptical. Its an order of magnitude more likely that they're just genuine Canadian officers who happen to be of Asian descent. Coincidences happen sometimes. Also, do we have more than that one screencap to indicate that there's really so many Asian officers present as claimed?
 
I keep saying, Null hates A+H but that is only because he doesn't understand that the biggest LolCows in the world are the people in power.
Null said multiple times on MATI that the main problem with A&H is that it requires way more janny work per poster than any other board. The girls over at the Beauty parlor aren't threatening to merc Castro's son or engaged in other glow behavior. tbh @L50LasPak is really taking one for the team, I say we give him a 30 minute lead during the day of the mop.
 
tbh @L50LasPak is really taking one for the team, I say we give him a 30 minute lead during the day of the mop.
For the record, A&H is like administrating a zen garden.

Deep Thoughts is where the real issues are.

And since I've started jannying offtopic stuff in general, the 3900 now four thousand page Vtuber thread makes me want to fucking hang myself.
 
A lot of things can rapidly escalate in pretty unexpected ways, very quickly. The order might have been for the military to just rough up the truckers a smidge, but one jumpy or fanatic soldier, one poorly positioned child, one recording device...less likely things have happened. Imagine that clip hitting the net, some flag waving ten year old in a maple leaf hat getting blasted by a uniformed member of the Canadian Military on the orders of Trudeau. Picture their screaming parents being tackled to the ground and cuffed in the pooling blood of their child, all for the world to see.

Pray that God lifts the scales from the eyes of the Candian government, so that they can see the madness they court.
Conversely the platitudes and retarded nice guy jargon are as fake as the costumes he apparently has an abundance of, he's a powermonger that has absolutely no idea the responsibility and cost of power and thinks the world owes him something.
 
I stand by what I said. Anything that happens past this point is a win for the truckers. I'm not an accelerationist—I swear. But this type of escalation is what we need. Things are darkest just before the dawn. That said, things are about to get really rough in Canada. If you don't wanna suffer through it pack your bags and get out ASAP.
That last part is the catch though - a lot of people up here probably can’t afford to get out, myself included. The economy up here is fairly fucked - per a quick Google, our dollar is $0.80 USD, and if the Boogaloo kicks off I can’t imagine it not plummeting - and you’ve probably seen the vids of the Emerson Border. You think I stay somewhere dealing with that shit weather by choice?

Assuming that Trudy does invoke the Emergency Measures, I’d like to at least imagine that he (read - his handlers) know that they’re playing with fire here. All it’d take is one fucking retard firing a shot off, and all of a sudden Tim Pool might actually be right about a Civil War - I’d assume whoever they put in charge of this would be told to keep the kid gloves on, but again, all it takes is 1 Retard.
Britain has already gotten rid of the restrictions, and if things get too hot then the Queen can just say via the Governor-General of Canada "lolno" and dismiss Trudeau. I believe both Trudeau's Emergency Act and the restrictions can be suspended by the Governor-General if they needed to, but obviously the British government almost never gets involved in this sort of thing, especially since the last time they did (1975 in Australia) they fucked up relations between the two countries for decades.
Current Governor General is also a Native - ignoring how I can’t recall the last time a Governor General did anything of significance off hand, there’s a reason some friends of mine irl use the term Rhonda Rezzies.
With the way Canada's system of government is set up, it would be quite a big coup for that to pass through the House of Commons. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is prime minister because he is leader of the largest party; the Canadian system is kind of like if the US Speaker of the House were automatically also US President. Trudeau is PM because he was able to, in terms of support in the house. The only way this passes is in some remote circumstance that either his pseudo-coalition partners in the NDP betray, and/or Trudeau has some sort of caucus revolt or other sort of party whip failure within his Liberal Party.

That would be a big deal if that were to occur, Justin would probably lose his prime ministership, and Canada might even have a snap election. There is no prime ministerial veto, but if he gets a caucus revolt, then he may end up stabbed in the back and deposed by his own team. It's not unheard of. Jean Chretien was essentially booted out of his own prime ministership by uppity cabinet minister Paul Martin, who stole the PM position for himself, promptly lost the Liberal parliamentary majority, then outright lost the subsequent election to Stephen Harper.
I’d like to think that Singh can see which way the winds blowing for Trudeau, especially with Lib back benchers openly talking about ending the mandates, and not be a retarded Pajeet for once in his life. That said, hems on Capital Hill, and I’m of the opinion everyone on that hill is retarded on a good day, nevermind right now…

I want to be optimistic - cynicism has almost gotten too exhausting - but I figure if I expect the worst I can only be pleasantly surprised. And happy I don’t live anywhere near Ottawa…
 
Null said multiple times on MATI that the main problem with A&H is that it requires way more janny work per poster than any other board. The girls over at the Beauty parlor aren't threatening to merc Castro's son or engaged in other glow behavior. tbh @L50LasPak is really taking one for the team, I say we give him a 30 minute lead during the day of the mop.
The sooner this whole thing is finished, I can finally stop coming here. But it feels wrong to not be at least informed of what's going on in my own damn country.
I wonder when the breaking point was that I started trusting mostly-anonymous people on the internet who may or may not be CIA niggers over "credible" "journalists".
 
Pat King put out a video asserting that the whole thing about an agreement between the Ottawa mayor and Tamara Lich, to leave residential areas, is disinformation from either the government or counterprotesters. He's telling truckers in Ottawa to continue to stand their ground and hold the line.
 
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Updates from all across Canada and a bit of the USA.

Windsor

Statement urging the protestors to hold the line and warning about bullshit fake info meant to distract or trick people into leaving -- like the fake deal in Ottawa, or a false bomb threat in Windsor. Wonder if the latter was actually the trigger that got the cops to suddenly go full jackboot there. EDIT: Ninja'ed by @Emperor Pupienus on this one!



Short compilation of police arresting protestors in Windsor and generally being assholes. Includes footage of the Bearcat or whatever it is exactly.



Kids with something to say.

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Ottawa

A girl offers a cop a bouquet of flowers.



In light of the tensions in Coutts tonight, hopefully not a prophecy.

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Surrey

A bigass Oshkosh made an appearance! This explains why the cops suddenly got all excited there today. I have no idea where the fuck this thing came from, but I love it.



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Snippet of the Surrey crowd:



Can we have more Imperial Stormtroopers and less actual stormtroopers, please?

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Osyoos

It's fallen through the cracks a bit, but there's still a crowd in Osyoos. Sound on for sassy parental commentary.



Blue Water Bridge, USA

USA trucker solidarity.



Bonus Memes:

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The girls over at the Beauty parlor aren't threatening to merc Castro's son or engaged in other glow behavior. tbh @L50LasPak is really taking one for the team, I say we give him a 30 minute lead during the day of the mop.
If you are going to merc someone, don't be a fucking moron and talk about it online. That is how you get some FBI agent at your door.

Then we all knows what happens. You will pussy out when the FBI agent is questioning you, saying it was all a joke. Hold that anger and hatered in your heart, then log off The Farms.

It more useful to use that energy to plan.
 
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