US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

My brother made me listen to the Eric Weinstein podcast with O'Keefe and it's such an odd case of a guy kvecthing about the methods O'Keefe uses while praising him for the good work he does. Entire thing was Weinstein whining that O'Keefe doesn't play softball because he's being an actual journalist and getting info about how individuals act vs what they say about themselves. Fucking Weinstein didn't learn his fucking lesson at Evergreene.

Bret, you mean? Or do you actually do mean Eric, who did not teach at Evergreen?

 

[Blacklight]

Buy some of the knorr Mexican bullion bottles (pic related), some pasta boxes, and some beans and make the soup yourself, it's easy as piss and you can get like a years worth of soup out of 10 bucks of the knorr stuff, since you like tomato get the Caldo De TomateView attachment 2991974

This isn't political, but would you want to do more of these money saving Kiwi tips for the morons like me who can't cook very well?

 

[Basil Julep]

This isn't political, but would you want to do more of these money saving Kiwi tips for the morons like me who can't cook very well?

There is a much better thread for that. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/a-general-discussion-on-cheaply-eating-in-america.60136/

 

[DaBigBopper]

Bret, you mean? Or do you actually do mean Eric, who did not teach at Evergreen?

Eric. Here's a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31CvsBlKGYg
His brother taught at Evergreene and he's supposedly a college professor. Dumbshit should know that you don't keep giving common decency to existential enemies. You'd think for all the coping and seething about Jewish shit he does he'd understand this shit, if he's not just a puppet.

 

[X Prime]

Eric. Here's a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31CvsBlKGYg
His brother taught at Evergreene and he's supposedly a college professor. Dumbshit should know that you don't keep giving common decency to existential enemies. You'd think for all the coping and seething about Jewish shit he does he'd understand this shit, if he's not just a puppet. View attachment 3004059

You just answered your question.

He doesn't see the left-wing as his enemy, but he probably does certain other groups.

 

[Oxous]

First time since Afghanistan we get to really see Biden react to a prolonged foreign policy disaster. Alas there does not seem to have been much of a change in Biden's condition since 8 months ago.

 

[JosephStalin]

 

[verissimus]

Welp...the mad lad has done it now : https://www.theblaze.com/news/putin...-of-ukrainian-rebel-regions-moving-toward-war

 

[Garm]

First time since Afghanistan we get to really see Biden react to a prolonged foreign policy disaster. Alas there does not seem to have been much of a change in Biden's condition since 8 months ago.
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"I'm the greatest diplomat that has ever lived." Joe Biden as the world burns around him.

 

[Overly Serious]

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I mean, there have been sanctions since 2014. And it's difficult to get certain foodstuffs in Russia and other things but Russia has survived. They've also just done a big oil deal with China (unless it was coal, I don't recall) denominated in Euros rather than US dollars. They've been building up gold reserves and have cash reserves that are fairly large. Their interest rates are around 8% as opposed to the USA's <1% where the Fed is terrified to raise it even though they really, really need to.

N.b. I'm not saying that Russia's economy is better than the USAs or even close. I'm simply saying that if the USA is going to threaten Russia with something, it needs to be something they aren't already doing and haven't been doing for the past seven years. I guess their ideal would be to kick Russia off the SWIFT system. But that would be a shit show. Would Europe agree? Could the US do it unilaterally? And could Russia find an alternative. What actually is the Biden admin threatening?

 

[verissimus]

God, every other week there is a new crisis or disaster in the making.

 

[Overly Serious]

(X-post from the Canadian Trucker Convoy 2022 thread)
I'm going to ask something that I know is going to come off as incindiary, so I'd like to preface this whole post before I start by saying I'm not suggesting anyone do a terrorism in real life or Minecraft. If things weren't at such a boiling point around the world, I would probably not feel any reason to make such a statement. I'll probably x-post this in a couple of other threads because I want a wide swath of opinions and thoughts, as this is more a question that has been rolling around my head since I was a child (and I'm tired of getting the same answer of "look at history" because that's part of the issue I'm having). I'm fully willing to admit that I'm not very informed and definitely ignorant when it comes to this subject, so forgive me if I come off as crass or maybe too blunt.

Spoiler: At what point...

At what point do people, as a collective, decide that the only option is violence and turn on their leaders?

I always wondered this in class when we'd talk about Communism or the Third Reich, or really any other kind of monarchy or government overreach. It was easy to explain how a country go to that point and how a ruler or leader was able to easily usurp rights away from the people. But the part I never understood was how it always happened and was allowed to happen, and then one day everyone just decided they weren't alright with it. It's the middle area between the two events that I'm asking about specifically. When is everyone suddenly in agreement that it's gone too far. That's the answer that seems to vary from every tyranical situation, and why the answer "look at history" never sits well with me. The history doesn't look to be entirely consistent on that point.

It's easy to answer how much it takes for one person to break. I think all of us could answer that question. But at what point does an entire country break? Is it when everyone's family and friends starts disappearing in the night? When money dries up? When the streets are lined with poverty? When promises of the rich and powerful to the poor and starved stay unfulfilled? When your kids are taken as property of the ruler and turned into workers/drones/tools? Is it when the missles start falling on your neighborhood? Is it when the tanks roll down your city block? When air raid sirens become another day that ends in "y"? When your church is targeted? When your politics are targeted? When your guns and weapons are taken?

All of this stuff still happens in the modern day. We can look to any country in the world and see some enactment of the same things playing out that have played out throughout history. Not to sound condescending, but this is why the "look to history" answer bothers me and comes off as a non-answer. It implies that we solved the issues of the past and that we need only look to them for answers on how to prevent them in the present day. Except that isn't true at all; they're all still happening. Looking to history didn't prevent anything.

Maybe that's the answer right there. Maybe everyone is always thinking the same thing, but they're waiting for someone else to fire the--metaphorical--first shot, and after that is when everyone unifies. I think that's honestly why there's an increase in fed-posts on every board and thread I've been in (aside from the standard edgy teens and actual glowniggery). I think there is a contigient of people on the internet that are venting what they can't say in public. In my personal life, many people have said the words "(x) needs to be hung/shot/guillotined," over the last couple of years. They're at the point of violence, but won't be the ones to start it. I don't think it's presumptuous to say that there's probably a lot of people that feel that way.

So I guess in summation, what I'm asking is: in the modern age of tyranny, what is the final push before the inevitable violence? And...Are we living at the boiling point, or are we living in the hyphonated part of an reign of terror in someone else's text book; you know, those middle years that aren't worth remembering between the starting year and ending year where everyone went along with everything. Or are we finally at the end? Which part of the future children's history book are we?

I probably shouldn't reward blatant thread spillover with an answer, but the most important factor is when the Middle and more especially the Upper Middle Class switch over. The French Revolution wasn't a revolution of the working class. It was a revolution of the Upper Middle class that kicked off the working class revolution. You want to know when the tipping point is that people overthrow tyranical elites, watch when the Middle Class and Upper Middle class start to get really squeezed. There's a reason why the early EDL in the UK got the full weight of media, police and intelligence services going at them whilst, for example, the BNP (British Nationalist Party) toddled along as the butt of all jokes for decades. It's because the EDL was what one police officer called "suits and boots". It had Middle Class and Working Class people all finding common cause together and the Establishment freaked.

Now, I've polluted this thread enough with off-topic answers. Begone back to Deep Thoughts, you blaggard.

 

[Sekirodiealot]

I keep hearing people grumbling about the price of food, gasoline and their utility bills and pinning it on the Biden administration and just "the democrats" in particular in my purple county. The gasoline thing is murdering him. It went down below 3 dollars where I live for around a month and now gasoline is even more expensive than it used to be. People are openly speculating about 4 dollar a gallon gas this spring and 5 dollar a gallon gas this summer. There's nothing the democrats can do if they get blamed for food inflation and gasoline doubling. except rig it to kingdom come, just unprecedented rigging. It is the economy, stupid.

Democrats will try to blame Trump.

 

[Brahma]

I mean, there have been sanctions since 2014. And it's difficult to get certain foodstuffs in Russia and other things but Russia has survived. They've also just done a big oil deal with China (unless it was coal, I don't recall) denominated in Euros rather than US dollars. They've been building up gold reserves and have cash reserves that are fairly large. Their interest rates are around 8% as opposed to the USA's <1% where the Fed is terrified to raise it even though they really, really need to.

N.b. I'm not saying that Russia's economy is better than the USAs or even close. I'm simply saying that if the USA is going to threaten Russia with something, it needs to be something they aren't already doing and haven't been doing for the past seven years. I guess their ideal would be to kick Russia off the SWIFT system. But that would be a shit show. Would Europe agree? Could the US do it unilaterally? And could Russia find an alternative. What actually is the Biden admin threatening?

RU have been planning a pivot to China anyway, this'll hasten it. They just finished a pipeline, another under construction and another planned. Contracts signed for delivery back at the start of the month. EU has been squawking about reducing gas anyway so it makes sense to line up the next bhig spender. That's the thing with Russia, they do have a long gaze. Handy not having to worry about it you'll be in power in ten years time when you're making plans


I think NS2 might be mothballed until after Biden sees it he can survive November. There won't be a sanctioning of gas otherwise though, Europe can't afford to replace it with LNG short term, not enough facilities.

Because of the above i can't see a wholesale removal from swift purely because the trades with Europe will be going ahead on schedule just no new ones. Fwiw swift is a Belgian apolitical system under European law. They've previously removed Iran.

Even if there removed from swift, lose access to dollars as a reserve currency, even sterling, so what when you have China who will act as a third person sleeve for anything Russia needs foreign currency for. Worth noting that Russia has been requiring a mix of currencies for hydros since 2014 anyway precisely to lower fallout of being cutoff from dollars. They've gotten customers in the habit which can be expanded

Heavy industry and high tech already sanctioned but not that Russia relied on West there anyway. Consumer goods China will be happy to sleeve for, not like iPhones have end user certs

 

[Overly Serious]

RU have been planning a pivot to China anyway, this'll hasten it. They just finished a pipeline, another under construction and another planned. Contracts signed for delivery back at the start of the month. EU has been squawking about reducing gas anyway so it makes sense to line up the next bhig spender. That's the thing with Russia, they do have a long gaze. Handy not having to worry about it you'll be in power in ten years time when you're making plans


I think NS2 might be mothballed until after Biden sees it he can survive November. There won't be a sanctioning of gas otherwise though, Europe can't afford to replace it with LNG short term, not enough facilities.

Because of the above i can't see a wholesale removal from swift purely because the trades with Europe will be going ahead on schedule just no new ones. Fwiw swift is a Belgian apolitical system under European law. They've previously removed Iran.

Even if there removed from swift, lose access to dollars as a reserve currency, even sterling, so what when you have China who will act as a third person sleeve for anything Russia needs foreign currency for. Worth noting that Russia has been requiring a mix of currencies for hydros since 2014 anyway precisely to lower fallout of being cutoff from dollars. They've gotten customers in the habit which can be expanded

Heavy industry and high tech already sanctioned but not that Russia relied on West there anyway. Consumer goods China will be happy to sleeve for, not like iPhones have end user certs

A simple Informative didn't feel sufficient to say thanks for all that. Very useful.

It's a shame if NS2 doesn't go ahead. Both for the Russkies and for those of us in Europe who would like not paying quite as much of a fortune for our heating. So is it actually being postponed? Did the Americanski get their way on this, after all?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Will Russia invest in Bitcoin?

 

[Oats12345]

Welp...the mad lad has done it now : https://www.theblaze.com/news/putin...-of-ukrainian-rebel-regions-moving-toward-war

Do we have to go to war over Ukraine. I mean seriously I know why politicians care becuase that's where their dirty dealing are done. But should average Americans really care

 

[verissimus]

Do we have to go to war over Ukraine. I mean seriously I know why politicians care becuase that's where their dirty dealing are done. But should average Americans really care

No, but expect them all to at least make the case for accepting the Ukraine (or what's left of it at this rate) into NATO, money & material heading to Eastern Europe, Biden blaming Trump just because he can, etc.

 

[Brahma]

A simple Informative didn't feel sufficient to say thanks for all that. Very useful.

It's a shame if NS2 doesn't go ahead. Both for the Russkies and for those of us in Europe who would like not paying quite as much of a fortune for our heating. So is it actually being postponed? Did the Americanski get their way on this, after all?

de rien

Physical infrastructure was finished sometime last year. It'll definitely go ahead imo, just when.

Biden might be able to get it delayed and spin that as a win then let the Europeans turn it on quietly after mid terms. If they wanted to be clever they'll reduce capacity on one of the other pipes for maintenance or some nonsense, use ns2 to cover critical shortfall blah blah. Nobody plugged in will buy it but the msm will run cover so the lumpenproletariat doesn't get twitchy.


Probably should mention this all depends on my thinking that Putin doesn't want a hot war and we don't get tanks rolling on Kiev anytime soon. I don't think he does, personally.

 

[MirrorNoir]

(X-post from the Canadian Trucker Convoy 2022 thread)
I'm going to ask something that I know is going to come off as incindiary, so I'd like to preface this whole post before I start by saying I'm not suggesting anyone do a terrorism in real life or Minecraft. If things weren't at such a boiling point around the world, I would probably not feel any reason to make such a statement. I'll probably x-post this in a couple of other threads because I want a wide swath of opinions and thoughts, as this is more a question that has been rolling around my head since I was a child (and I'm tired of getting the same answer of "look at history" because that's part of the issue I'm having). I'm fully willing to admit that I'm not very informed and definitely ignorant when it comes to this subject, so forgive me if I come off as crass or maybe too blunt.

Spoiler: At what point...

At what point do people, as a collective, decide that the only option is violence and turn on their leaders?

I always wondered this in class when we'd talk about Communism or the Third Reich, or really any other kind of monarchy or government overreach. It was easy to explain how a country go to that point and how a ruler or leader was able to easily usurp rights away from the people. But the part I never understood was how it always happened and was allowed to happen, and then one day everyone just decided they weren't alright with it. It's the middle area between the two events that I'm asking about specifically. When is everyone suddenly in agreement that it's gone too far. That's the answer that seems to vary from every tyranical situation, and why the answer "look at history" never sits well with me. The history doesn't look to be entirely consistent on that point.

It's easy to answer how much it takes for one person to break. I think all of us could answer that question. But at what point does an entire country break? Is it when everyone's family and friends starts disappearing in the night? When money dries up? When the streets are lined with poverty? When promises of the rich and powerful to the poor and starved stay unfulfilled? When your kids are taken as property of the ruler and turned into workers/drones/tools? Is it when the missles start falling on your neighborhood? Is it when the tanks roll down your city block? When air raid sirens become another day that ends in "y"? When your church is targeted? When your politics are targeted? When your guns and weapons are taken?

All of this stuff still happens in the modern day. We can look to any country in the world and see some enactment of the same things playing out that have played out throughout history. Not to sound condescending, but this is why the "look to history" answer bothers me and comes off as a non-answer. It implies that we solved the issues of the past and that we need only look to them for answers on how to prevent them in the present day. Except that isn't true at all; they're all still happening. Looking to history didn't prevent anything.

Maybe that's the answer right there. Maybe everyone is always thinking the same thing, but they're waiting for someone else to fire the--metaphorical--first shot, and after that is when everyone unifies. I think that's honestly why there's an increase in fed-posts on every board and thread I've been in (aside from the standard edgy teens and actual glowniggery). I think there is a contigient of people on the internet that are venting what they can't say in public. In my personal life, many people have said the words "(x) needs to be hung/shot/guillotined," over the last couple of years. They're at the point of violence, but won't be the ones to start it. I don't think it's presumptuous to say that there's probably a lot of people that feel that way.

So I guess in summation, what I'm asking is: in the modern age of tyranny, what is the final push before the inevitable violence? And...Are we living at the boiling point, or are we living in the hyphonated part of an reign of terror in someone else's text book; you know, those middle years that aren't worth remembering between the starting year and ending year where everyone went along with everything. Or are we finally at the end? Which part of the future children's history book are we?

As others have said on this board, shit doesn't hit the fan until a combination of any of the following four things happen:

1. The Bread and Circus finally runs out, but especially the bread part of the bread and circus combination. We've already hit the point where the Circus has become nothing but anti-life agitprop but once the bread runs out, then hell breaks loose because when people can't eat, rioting and political violence start up until someone is put in charge that can give the people food.

2. When the government stops pretending, I mean outright drops the mask and gloves and stops even pretending the voters have a say, and go full fascist and suspend democratic elections. Right now we still have the illusion of change and that our vote matters, IE Virginia even after what they pulled in 2020. Once all illusions are irreversibly shattered, only then can violent revolution properly begin fermenting.

3. When the economy finally dies a horrific death on par with the Crash of 1929, meaning that capitalism and the capitalist-centric democracy concept takes such a huge god-damn blow that full fascism and communism becomes a viable alternative to the masses.

4. The black swan event. Something utterly out of the blue happens, something on par with 9-11 or the Archduke Ferdinand assassination, that it throws EVERYTHING into chaos and shit hits the fan as a result (in this case, the current shit up north with Blackfaced Hitler or Covid in general).