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Dean needs to talk himself up as a Dildo Master and reach an agreement with Preston to be let out of the suit.
Preston Poulter et al v. Ali "Dean" Assaf et al (2021)
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It is. Every single setback suffered by Vikki and Dean to date has been related to their own stupidity or ignorance regarding proper or recommended legal procedure. Not the merits, or distinct lack thereof, of this case.
Not this one.
That was my interpretation as to what she's saying as well.
Again, if Saggy is reading this, I don't think you did anything wrong.
I do think you're a bit naïve in not grasping how going with non-lawyer stolen valor con man Spectre, and not accepted FROG's generous offer, is really fucking stupid, but you're not required to grasp anything going on here I suppose. At the end of the day, all of this has proven to be more than a little autistic. I think people just wanted to know what the hell happened to the GFM.
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I am in favor of these people being ruined as a cautionary tale to others.
#PressedInByPreston
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WhimsicalTrolli
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#TDG: More Bullying of Small CG Creators
VikkiVerse: https://www.youtube.com/c/vikkiverseDA Talks: https://www.youtube.com/c/datalks- The Dumping Grounds:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL72Xmgq6y...
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So a guy that has to to texas for a hearing is doing a live stream to a audience of 10?
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Not really. They could have filed something called a joinder which is generally a brief statement incorporating another party's arguments by reference. You still have to explain why the legal issues are similar enough that the same arguments apply.
At least with Dean the personal jurisdiction issues are more or less the same. Zero contact with the forum state, personal jurisdiction asserted solely on the basis of where the plaintiff is, etc. It's literally a stereotype of the kind of bullshit forum shopping case every 1L civ pro student reads dozens of.
Vikki's issue also had to do with service of process which she says was defective. I think the personal jurisdiction argument would have worked for her too.
Incidentally when I was watching this go down I didn't think filing the answer was as disastrous as it turned out to be because I assumed it was an actual strategic decision and not random flailing. I also hadn't really looked into it seriously, but while there are exceptions to the general rule of always filing one of the dispositive 12(b) motions before or included in an answer, they're a lot more narrow than I thought.
For instance, an amended complaint could introduce new facts or arguments that make it clear there's a personal jurisdiction issue that couldn't have been raised in the first responsive pleading. Another example is if an appeals case comes along while the case is pending that revises the state's personal jurisdiction law, such that if you'd previously made such an argument, it would have been contrary to precedent.
And now the case is so fucked up (at least for them) that they're probably going to have to pay a lot more to do it right. I still think the case is weak and if you look at that Demonatrix shit or whatever, it is pedo as hell.
Hell for another example from a District Court in Texas, look at Meyer v. Waid. They literally only granted jurisdiction over the one defamation claim about slander uttered by Waid while he was physically present in Texas. That is how hostile Texas generally is to just hearing random shit from the Internet where the only basis for jurisdiction is one of the parties is there.
Unless you actually wanted to fight the case on the merits to avoid some whack-a-mole game where that pegged cuck just files suit in one jurisdiction after another, that was obviously the right move.
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#TDG: More Bullying of Small CG Creators
VikkiVerse: https://www.youtube.com/c/vikkiverseDA Talks: https://www.youtube.com/c/datalks- The Dumping Grounds:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL72Xmgq6y...
So a guy that has to to texas for a hearing is doing a live stream to a audience of 10?
LOL Jesus Christ buddy, get your priorities straight! I think he's gonna no-show Wednesday. He's probably resigned himself to not having a lawyer.
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And naturally, it's about @FROG. AGAIN. Or, at least it has FROG in the thumbnail.#TDG: More Bullying of Small CG Creators
VikkiVerse: https://www.youtube.com/c/vikkiverseDA Talks: https://www.youtube.com/c/datalks- The Dumping Grounds:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL72Xmgq6y...
So a guy that has to to texas for a hearing is doing a live stream to a audience of 10?
Towards thee I roll, thou lawsuit-winning but unconquering @FROG;
to the last I grapple with thee;
from hell's heart I stab at thee;
for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.
I read Moby Dick too, @VIkkiVerse. Though I have to wonder whether you comprehend that Ahab's obsession with vengeance was ultimately his undoing.
And therein lies the problem. By his own admission, Dean is bad at legal writing. Thus, he likely still would have needed a lawyer.
That's why this is sad.
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This could be applied to @PocketJacks as well, perhaps even more so.
I would say I was waiting for his comeuppance, but he's already been pegged.
The only karma that would befit him would be if he wasted all of his fortunes against @FROG and loses in the end.
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I wouldn't disagree.
The problem is that a sociopath with money can do a lot of damage before being brought to account. Look to politicians and Hollywood. I don't think D&V's 283 subscribers are equivalent enough power to bring down FROG, which makes this crusade they're waging against him now especially pointless, IMO. It also distracts from more important things they could and should be doing.
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WhimsicalTrolli
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They jannied me for saying it's a bad idea to go after a co-defendant. @VIkkiVerse stop hiding.
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I'm not a Robot
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I was aghast a month ago when instead of writing an objection to the magistrate's recommendations, Dean put out a slick video with smooth jazz about his brother and a YouTuber he said was a a loli-diddler-molester-rapist. He needed a lawyer ASAP and this is the shit he was wasting his time on.
And now here were are a month later, the day before another deadline. He still doesn't officially have any representation, and he's doing a livestream featuring videos he produced about "Evan Scam Cryver" and commenting that Ethan is a, "fat incompetent liar", "closeted homosexual", and "fat faggot weirdo."
What an absolute train wreck Dean turned out to be.
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It's Tuesday, 22 February 2022 in Texas. The day before the conference on Wednesday.
Something that Dean said recently to Mockulous/Pods didn't sit well with me.
When asked if he got Spectre to write his response he said "I had Spectre write up what I wanted and that was it. I didn't ask him for advice."
To me, this doesn't make sense. Ethan Van Scriver got a lawyer and had the case dismissed because it was in the wrong jurisdiction and it seems like Dean could have easily gotten that result too if he had signed on to that motion to dismiss.
However, we don't just have Dean's word to go off of. We also have Spectre himself, in deleted posts which @Null thankfully unjannied then spoke about in this stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5p5_dhUlYU&t
I found the posts for you though, because scrubbing through a stream is annoying:
These are the relevant deleted posts:
It sounds like Spectre wrote the damn thing. Dean said that Spectre just wrote what Dean told him to write, but if that's the case why wouldn't Dean write it himself? That's just retarded. I don't know shit about the law, even less about US legal procedure but it's obvious that Spectre wrote the response for Dean, he explains his reasoning and thought process!
Dean and Vikki have been treating the legal system like it's their gay comics YouTube channel. They have been trying to save face instead of actually facing reality and working within the system. Dean did an interview with some random dude in a discord server before he hired a lawyer. This is insane. How many hours of content about @FROG did Dean and Vikki stream before they'd secured legal representation? I'm not your nigger so I'm not going to add it up. I already fetched you those months old posts from Null but judging by how much Vikki tweets about him it's probably a LOT.
All roads lead back to Spectre and I have to say it's pretty fucking funny.
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I didn't "get" that video. At one point he was even complaining about how Crow doxed him around the time of the lawsuit, but when you get sued the clerk of the court basically "doxes" you because civil lawsuits are public record. We then rely on that record to follow a lawsuit in threads such as these. Ultimately, the person who set things in motion to have Dean doxed is Preston.
It's like they don't get anything about this process at all.
Why is Ethan a "fat incompetent liar," but Spectre merely "embellishes"?
Fat? Over in the Spectre thread, we calculated his BMI based on the height and weight figures he provided. He's obese.
Incompetent? Not actually a lawyer, doesn't have a fuckin' clue what he's doing, and the thing failed to have the intended result with the Judge.
Liar? Holy shit, yes. Pathologically.
According to Spectre, he did. He says he drafted it, and EVEN went as far to decide WHAT objections are written into it. That second part is particularly incongruous with Dean's claim that Spectre only wrote what Dean wanted. Per Spectre, he was absolutely doing work that is properly the purview of a lawyer.
Either Dean is willfully ignorant of what Spectre claimed here on KF and Spectre is wrong, or Spectre is telling the truth and Dean is (badly) trying to spin it.
When you have the site owner (Null) doing videos about how awful Spectre's boasting here looks, you can't really just hand wave this away or claim it's the conspiracy theory of a few idiots.
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Either way, the whole sad truth will probably end up coming out in discovery. And alot more beyond that. As has been said before, Spectre was
doing what is in the purview of an attorney, but with no protections or privilege. I can't even imagine what Spectre will say about himself and
about his role in these matters if they start asking him questions.
I'm reminded of that episode from Community. Getting mad at someone like Peggy is a losing game. Maybe he gets to keep pressing his luck, maybe not. But...the quarterpounder got his ass beat by a fucking tranny for less. Pocketpussy has been rolling the dice on these internet lolsuits and if he keeps getting into retarded slap fights online, eventually he'll pick the person.
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It's basically an arcade and he's put a pocket full of coins.
WhimsicalTrolli
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What makes you think that maddog mattis will allow lance corporal fehey in a court room? Lol.
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What a giant clusterfuck this is. Correct me if I'm wrong.
So a member here, Preston, sued three other members: @FROG @VIkkiVerse and Dean, who does have an account here. The mods know what it is.
Then, Dean and Vikki decided to run some kind of GriftFundMe which CG sympathetic kiwis donated to, they courted $1100? That will be just shy of $1000 after the cut from the platform.
They decided a $1000 lawyer wasn't as good as a $0 captain. That would be @Spectre_06.
This either coincided with, or was directly attributed to the creation of the Captain Specks thread which was an absolute dumpster because of the image pasting glitch during the time, the thread was also a Discord collaboration. People who were following this stuff made the thread.
(Let me know @5t3n0g0ph3r if the following is inappropriate.)
Due to captain gas pipe's involvement in the Vickers debacle, it set off numerous alarms and came off as gayops. People who are accustomed to the Gunt Subforum's culture immediately questioned it. Seems like getting personally involved in Discord isn't frowned upon as much here, and I have no problems respecting that.
So we (Gunt subforum jannies) then tried pretty hard to keep the thread up and moved it away from Discord, this angered the group behind the thread even though one of their members got it, and has been doing a great job at upkeep. The group blamed @Captain Manning initially, but then decided it was Dean who leaked the chatlogs? That "hey babe" shit didn't do us any favours of course.
While I am fairly certain it wasn't Dean who gave me those files, he seized this opportunity and tried to do some kind of "gayops xposed" video with Surfer, which backfired in his face.
So we (Gunt subforum jannies) then tried pretty hard to keep the thread up and moved it away from Discord, this angered the group behind the thread even though one of their members got it, and has been doing a great job at upkeep. The group blamed @Captain Manning initially, but then decided it was Dean who leaked the chatlogs? That "hey babe" shit didn't do us any favours of course.
While I am fairly certain it wasn't Dean who gave me those files, he seized this opportunity and tried to do some kind of "gayops xposed" video with Surfer, which backfired in his face.
Dean was personally invested in Captain Specks 06 and wanted to manufacture a piece to defend the captain's honour and run damage control? I have many issues with that. Speak for yourself.
So a pozloading my neghole captain and his "client" caused so much headaches and infighting drama. Good fucking riddance, no regrets making sure your thread stayed up.
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Its really, really funny still that Dean fucked himself like an idiot this hard