Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Techpriest]

If just one of those gets through it's going to be devastating and kill hundreds of thousands of Americans. The US is never going to risk landing in a country that is a Nuclear power and attempting to overthrow the government unless that country is presenting some sort of other extensional threat to the US.

We lose a hundred thousand, that’s pretty much a success in nuclear war terms. Hell, losing 10 million? We won. Especially because the Chinese will likely lose at least a quarter billion. Probably closer to half.

 

[Meat Target]

We lose a hundred thousand, that’s pretty much a success in nuclear war terms. Hell, losing 10 million? We won. Especially because the Chinese will likely lose at least a quarter billion. Probably closer to half.

"A single death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic".

 

[Male Idiot]

We lose a hundred thousand, that’s pretty much a success in nuclear war terms. Hell, losing 10 million? We won. Especially because the Chinese will likely lose at least a quarter billion. Probably closer to half.

But would that be worth it, for something so far away?

I mean of course to the (((merchants))) ruling America it would be fine, but how many of their fellow soy npcs dying would be too much for the npcs? I would say they would break easier than the bugmen.

 

[Never Scored]

We lose a hundred thousand, that’s pretty much a success in nuclear war terms. Hell, losing 10 million? We won. Especially because the Chinese will likely lose at least a quarter million. Probably closer to half.

What's your point? The only argument I ever made is the US will not invade another nuclear power because the potential cost of human life is massive. Now you're talking about ten million people dying as a result of US cities getting flattened by nukes and being the winner. You're kind of making my argument for me.

Are you saying the US's nuclear superiority is a deterrent? That's only true if the US isn't already in the process of trying to overthrow the Chinese government. There's no deterrent to stop the Chinese government from using nuclear weapons if they're dead anyway. What's the difference between dying when the US overthrows your regime or dying when the US glasses your city? Might as well try to blow the shit out of the US on the way out. We've been over this multiple times in this thread now.

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

What's your point? The only argument I ever made is the US will not invade another nuclear power because the potential cost of human life is massive. Now you're talking about ten million people dying as a result of US cities getting flattened by nukes and being the winner. You're kind of making my argument for me.

But this way California can be a red state again.

 

[Chris Chad]

I get not wanting to root for the West or whatever, but I don't and will never understand rooting for Putin or Xi either. Totally fine to root against an ideology/government that hates you, but life would and will be worse if Russia or China become more powerful/influential. Both of them are vehemently anti-White nations too, they're just better at pretending they're not unlike western governments at the moment.

 

[Henry V]

 

[RVNX]

It's funny seeing everyone on page 50 saying that the chances of russian invading was bassicaly zero.

It's not zero, but it's not high either. Putin knows he can't keep up a war scenario long term. And when people talk about sanctions not working they should look into the proposed SWIFT ban, which would ban the Russians entirely from doing any kinds of money transfers, worldwide. The civil unrest would be unreal. Russia has assets, but the people don't. Putin is pushing, but not because he wants to go to war, but because he wants to cause panic. Panic causes civil unrest and ruins Ukraine's economy, and that is what he wants.

 

[Toothpaste]

But would that be worth it, for something so far away?

I mean of course to the (((merchants))) ruling America it would be fine, but how many of their fellow soy npcs dying would be too much for the npcs? I would say they would break easier than the bugmen.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

They still believe there isn't an invasion. But if there was, best friend Putin would probably be in the right by invading. And if he wasn't, everyone should just stay out of it.

This is what homeschooling and trump enslavement syndrome does to people.

NATO invaded that territory about 30 years ago, this is a liberation from NATO occupation.

 

[AGPinochet]

Lots of doomerisms on this thread. One must remember what we are actually talking about in regards to Russia.

Before you go out waving the Russian flag to own the Libs, you should remember what kind of a country we are talking about. Russia is a one-party dictatorship run by an oligarchic elite that considers their own people no better than cattle to the exploited for their own benefit. This elite was born at a time where every school taught the Marxist maxim of "religion is the opium of the masses". They just turned that around and are using a faux-traditional doctrine to keep their own population in line.

In terms of tyranny, this is no different from the globohomo wokeness of the West, it's just imposed on the people from a pseudo-traditionalist angle, where worshipping the state is the greatest virtue imaginable. The average Russian accepts this because he has been indoctrinated from birth to believe that everything the state does is right and everything one sees in the state-owned news is the whole truth. He doesn't have to think about politics, because the state does that for him. It's only when he personally gets his business forcefully foreclosed upon because a fat oligarch with a government job wants it for himself that he starts to reconsider his worldview.

The Russian government speaks a lot about the oppression of Russians and the right of self-determination for peoples, but their own country bans all types of separatism by imposing lengthy prison sentences for talking about separating from Russia, even incidentally. Nowhere in the world is the Russian more oppressed than in Russia,

UNPO: Crimean Tatars: Ilmi Umerov Sentenced to Two Years in Prison on Charges of Separatism

Грани.Ру: Полюдова приговорена к 6 годам общего режима

Военный суд в Москве назначил 6 лет общего режима политактивистке Дарьи Полюдовой. Ее посадили за разговор о "лубянском стрелке" Иване Манюрове и два поста о распаде России, в которых упоминались Шамиль Басаев и Аслан Масхадов. Ранее Полюдова уже отсидела 2 года за публикации.

graniru.org

Crimean Court Sentences Journalist to 6 Years in Prison - The Moscow Times

The sentencing of Vladyslav Yesypenko has been condemned as "politically motivated."

www.themoscowtimes.com

It's absolutely true that the Western world has been becoming more and more authoritarian in the last two decades, but Russia is at a completely different ballpark. Even before Covid, the government de-facto banned any criticism of them or of government policy. If the government decides something is true, you must accept it uncritically or face either a fine or 15 days in jail. This is enforced even in social media, where I personally know people who have been fined for questioning Russian Covid policies and -numbers.

Putin signs law to fight insults to state symbols

The law establishes fines of up to $4,615

tass.com

This same government is now looking to make it mandatory for every Russian resident to surrender their biometric data to the state so that you can be tracked everywhere you go. This has already been used to find and track people who have defied the severe corona-lockdowns in Russian urban areas. Moscow has already implemented "face-pay" where the state automatically charges your bank account for simply passing a checkpoint with a camera. This was done as a measure to "prevent the spread of the coronavirus", but will stay in place indefinitely. No matter where you go in Russia, cameras track you. You can't even check into a hotel without showing your mandatory internal passport.

The Kremlin’s Quest for Biometric Data

Russian authorities have assigned “state system” status to the country’s uniform biometric database (UBS).

www.hrw.org

Moscow Metro Introduces ‘World’s First’ Pay-by-Face System - The Moscow Times

The system, named "Face Pay," has been fitted at special turnstiles across the Russian capital’s more than 240 metro stations.

www.themoscowtimes.com

The West is going in a shitty direction, but it's not too late for us to change course. We can still make a difference simply by rallying enough people to peacefully resist the woke insanity. Russia is so far gone that it will be incredibly hard for Russians to achieve any semblance of freedom or democracy through any peaceful means. Russia will have to collapse due to its own poverty and decadence and face an another 90s before that happens. Russia is an example of what could happen to the West if the current authoritarians get their way, not something to be emulated.

Russia never installed faggots or trannies in my government, Russia never made my government love niggers and Mexicans, Russia never spied on me or murdered people with all the tax dollars that my government extracts from us, Russia are not persecuting Julian Assange and Edward Snowden (In fact Russia has been sheltering Snowden for the better part of a decade), Russia never enacted gun bans, Russians have never done anything that negatively affected my life while the American Government has made my life undeniably worse.

Why am I supposed to care if Russia oppresses the faggot lovers and liberals who if they had their way would turn Russia into a carbon copy of America?

All in all, Death to America, Death to The Ukraine, May Donbass be liberated and may Russia be Victorious

 

[Meat Target]

I get not wanting to root for the West or whatever, but I don't and will never understand rooting for Putin or Xi either. Totally fine to root against an ideology/government that hates you, but life would and will be worse if Russia or China become more powerful/influential. Both of them are vehemently anti-White nations too, they're just better at pretending they're not unlike western governments at the moment.

To modernize a Solzhenitsyn quote: I would rather have America as the world's policeman than China as the world's jailer.

Russia never enacted gun bans

Lol, Putin called for more gun control in Russia a few months ago.

 

[Never Scored]

Russia never spied on me or murdered people with all the tax dollars that my government extracts from us,

Bruh...

 

[Herty]

Well it seems it is happening this time:

Also: https://mobile.twitter.com/IntelDoge

 

[Henry V]

 

[AGPinochet]

Bruh...

I was not aware that the Russian Government taxed American citizens living in America.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

All in all, Death to America, Death to The Ukraine, May Donbass be liberated and may Russia be Victorious

I mean the reason why you have gay trannies is because of the USSR subversion policy.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Sounds like they're prepping for a, uh, what was the term Joe Biden used? Minor incursion? That's about it. Possibly just a retaliatory artillery/missile/drone strike.

 

[Herty]

They are probably not annexing Ukraine, just taking the area the Donbass republics claim as their own but Ukraine current holds

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

They are probably not annexing Ukraine, just taking the area the Donbass republics claim as their own but Ukraine current holds

The implication was always that the territory of DNR and LNR will make up the entirety of Donetsk and Lugansk, so that territory will be reclaimed as well.