Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

I don't want to see any more young men coming back crippled or fucking dead.

You wont see that.

They'll have been required to identify as young women, by the queer generals.

 

[RainwaterDrop]

Nobody wants nukes to start flying. I think they're basically going to let Putin do whatever he wants while panicking, shidding, and farding. It might escalate to a limited nuclear exchange, otherwise.

Precisely. Putin might have caved himself into a diplomatical hole, but no ego trip is enough to warrant a nuclear exchange. It's a cat nobody wants outside it's bag, one nuke flies, all others follow. But fuck me if this situation isn't going to be a pain in the ass for everyone!

Lmao no, Turkey invoked Article 5 against Syria supposedly shelling their troops inside Turkey proper and all NATO did was deploy some Anti-Air systems along the border afterwards.

Perhaps, or perhaps the stakes weren't high enough to warrant such a response. Also, Erdogan is an amazing retard of an ally, he pissed off the EU, the US, Russia and China in short order with his diplomatical plays, wouldn't surprise me if they told him to get fucked unless russian tanks were crossing his border!

Uh. It doesn't matter. NATO Article 5. Same with the Baltics.

As much as I think Russia is a paper tiger and would get wrecked versus a proper country and definitely NATO. I'd rather not be proven correct and hope this doesn't escalate.

There will be some sort of escalation, but nobody is retarded enough to fire nukes or prompt a scenario where nukes would be an option. You can see Putin had his ego capped hard with this mess, but some sort of response will happen. Even if just symbolic, Russia isn't retarded enough to directly attack NATO powers!

 

[Mukhrani]

Taiwan is a lot better-armed and better-allied than Ukraine is. It has the backing of not just the US, but Japan and South Korea, as well as Australia, Vietnam, India, and Indonesia, who would all war against China simply on principle alone at this point.

The point wouldn't be to grab the island for strategic purposes, it would be to show to those other countries that the US is an unreliably security partner (because we would be retarded to try and wage a two-front war against two other superpowers, competitors which any sensible global hegemon would be trying to drive a wedge between). While many of those countries are formidable, they are formidable as members of a US-led coalition. On their own they are not capable of retaking an island six miles from Mainland China, protected by dense anti-aircraft systems and layers and layers of potent missile defenses.

The sad thing is that there would be no effective counter to a maneuver like this. The effective counter was to not act like a bunch of retards in eastern Europe for two decades, and that bridge has long since been passed.

 

[Jarch6]

If there's any good thing about situations like these, it's the flow of good posts

 

[Emperor Pupienus]

I just don't see the Russian endgame. They are poor as shit wtf are they hoping to achieve here?

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>muh GDP
Doesn't matter. Russia may have a smaller GDP than Italy or Canada, but Russia is orders of magnitude more powerful than either of those countries. The Mongols were just a bunch of hicks from the steppes as well.

Remember that military spending is a bad metric as well. A lot of Western countries use military spending as a vehicle for corruption in wastefully funneling money to the military industrial complex, while the Russians tend to do that less. The Saudis have an exceedingly well-funded military on paper, yet it has proven so useless that KSA has needed to bring in foreign mercenaries to fight Yemen for them.

 

[Ly Erg]

What the hell does GamerGate have to do with this?

Part of his brain broke after hearing the news and now it's trying to defend itself by making him think it's still the year of Gamergay.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Yup, this looks to be a curbstomp battle but even if they effectively lose nothing their future is... rather bleak, to understate it.

You mean like ours? I mean we ain't doing so well if you hadn't noticed, milk and gas are going to be $5 a gallon each by month's end and we're a country that has a surplus of cows and oil.

 

[Breadbassket]

I don't doubt for a second that Putin will attempt some serious pro-natalist policies once this is all said and done.

There could be a possible return of the Mother Heroine medal (or at least something similar to it) which was awarded to women in the USSR who raised 10 or more children.

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

Russia wouldn't go after civilian targets, right? They have to know that would be a terrible fucking idea.

 

[Fougaro]

What the hell does GamerGate have to do with this?

Everything.

 

[draggs]

The point wouldn't be to grab the island for strategic purposes, it would be to show to those other countries that the US is an unreliably security partner (because we would be retarded to try and wage a two-front war against two other superpowers, competitors which any sensible global hegemon would be trying to drive a wedge between). While many of those countries are formidable, they are formidable as members of a US-led coalition. On their own they are not capable of retaking an island six miles from Mainland China, protected by dense anti-aircraft systems and layers and layers of potent missile defenses.

The sad thing is that there would be no effective counter to a maneuver like this. The effective counter was to not act like a bunch of retards in eastern Europe for two decades, and that bridge has long since been passed.

if Taiwan is attacked it means war between China and the US with the entire rest of East Asia except Burma on the US side

the United States is not going to sit around if China attacks Taiwan

that's why China is not going to attack Taiwan

 

[Shittus Maximus]

True.

But a Chinese invasion of Taiwan would go so far down south for China that the CCP would only do so under a fit of total desperation.

They might be trying to distract or trying to split forces for the US in hopes of making the US think twice. If they wanted to invade, they could. It would take a couple of million of them but they could force their way in. Then it would be a question of if the powers agree not to nuke anything or if reenacting Fallout is what they want. A limited nuclear exchange may happen before cooler heads prevail.

 

[Rei is shit]

I love the way ruskis fly helicopters.

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Some dudes are having a blast right now. I hope they took some sick footage from the cockpit with gopros.

MFW Biden accidentally creates a white renaissance in the US by turning all of Eastern Europe into refugees.

Watch how fast white women turn against immigration

 

[3-2-1836]

Lol you dumb nigger Russia attacking Poland would be just a little bit different from Syria and Turkey playing a small game of howitzer patty-cake in the mountains on the border

I'm sure you can figure out how and why it is a little bit different

No I'm simply pointing out Article 5 isn't automatic mandatory total war like everyone thinks it is.

The most complicated Baltic state is Latvia and Estonia, where Russian speakers are almost half the population of both their capitals (45% in both)

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

Remember that military spending is a bad metric as well.

Yeah, all the US military budget went to getting jets and tanks and gyms for the Taliban.

 

[Michael Janke]

Russia wouldn't go after civilian targets, right?

that depends.
whats the civilians last name, and or skin color?

 

[draggs]

No I'm simply pointing out Article 5 isn't automatic mandatory total war like everyone thinks it is.

The most complicated Baltic state is Latvia and Estonia, where Russian speakers are almost half the population of both their capitals (45% in both)

Article 5 is automatic when it involves Russian tank engines hardbass pumping in a Polska arena

 

[Niggernerd]

Russia wouldn't go after civilian targets, right? They have to know that would be a terrible fucking idea.

Russians have nigger brains when it comes to things like that

 

[LUNEKO]

Russia wouldn't go after civilian targets, right? They have to know that would be a terrible fucking idea.

No but what does Ukraine have to loose if they lie about Russians raping and hanging civilians for funsies? they loose nothing and only puts more pressure on NATO to fight Russia head on

 

[Kane Lives]

Yeah, all the US military budget went to getting jets and tanks and gyms for the Taliban.

Pretty sure the amount lost in that shithole isnt even a blip in the DOD's annual budget.