Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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Herty said:
Well this pretty much confirms Ukraine is fucked. Remember when this started to happen with the Afghanistan army during the Taliban offensive?
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The Su-24 was first introduced in the early 1970s.

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Imagine having to fly this motherfucker against modern Russian SAMs and Flankers. :suffering:
 
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A_Callow_Youth said:
Gonna be interesting to see how that one works out. Screens like that are noted for being effective against HEAT munitions, but the Javelin is a tandem-charge system, designed to defeat ERA and still reach the main armor, and the ERA on those ones seems to be aligned more for low-angle shots than top attacks. The effectiveness of the screens is probably all going to come down to the delay between the tandem charges against the speed of the javelin in descent.
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Noticed that too. They're pretty tall, they might have accounted for that. Clearly going for safety over stealth.
 
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Prosphora said:
Possible fighter and bomber squadrons above Ukraine
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Sirens are also sound in western Ukraine in Lyiv
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Fake and gay. Su-57s make a howling noise anyways. This was from an airshow. Some chi chi man just put a siren over it.
Video from 2020:

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^Me on the right. I've seen this play out too many times, and helped make it happen a couple of times. Modern wars are media simulations. It's not completely fake; weapons are used and people die. But it's nothing compared to WW2, WW1, the American Civil War, Franco-Prussian War, Napoleonic War, 7 Years War, etc.
Ukraine is just getting a little bit smaller. Not a big deal compared to some of the upheavals that happened back in the day. This isn't going to devolve into something big the way WW1 did, either. NATO is the opposite of all the secret alliances that existed in the runup to WW1. If Putin attacks a NATO country, he knows what happens.
 
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76LD910 said:
What exactly did Biden do to "escalate" the situation ?

Be specific. This is sounding like all the "US disinformation/false flag incoming/WW3" shit that people like you were spouting off about as little as 24 hours ago, days after Russia had already stated their intention to invade Ukraine proper after recognizing the separatists, all the while Biden kept insisting the US wouldn't get involved militarily and European leaders were practically willing to blow Putin if stood down.

As far as I'm concerned the reason Russia has seized Ukrainian territory under Obama & Biden but not Trump is because they felt safe enough to do it with them in power, certainly not because they would "escalate" the situation, but because Trump would.
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Biden supported and pushed Ukraine/Zelensky to join NATO.
Likewise UK's Boris Johnson told Zelensky “the West would not stand by” as Russia attacks
The Obama regime escalated the situation in 2014 and that is why Crimea got annexed.
The Biden regime escalated the situation now and that's why this occurred.
If Biden and Zelensky simply said Ukraine would not join NATO, no invasion would have occurred.
 
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