Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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No, Putin didn't go all out in that situation. There weren't Russian para-troopers in Tbsili within an hour of fighting.

There were tank columns in Tbilisi which have been conveniently forgotten.
The Russian airforce only got their shit together since then because holy fuck the friendly fire in that war.
So call it Georgia v2.0.
 
The Left seems to be the more pro-war side these days than the right. The right is Libertarian and Isolationist these days. The Left not so much (talking about the average voters not the politicians).
That's in no small part because the Right has disproportionately been paying the price of the Forever War, due to the all-volunteer system. Right-wingers are burnt out on 20 years of this shit with nothing to show, and as youthful vigor has faded into mature wisdom, they've started seeing how stupid it all was in the first place. The Left, on the other hand, largely has not lost fathers, husbands, sons and limbs to the sandbox, meaning that they've never really had to sit back and count the costs for themselves, because it's never really affected them. Thing is, between the fatigue on the right, Joe's purge of the ranks, and the put-Vietnam-to-shame levels of draft dodging that will ensue if the Pentagon is insane enough to try that again, should a fight get big enough that the military needs to upsize to meet the Russians toe-to-toe, they are going to get an absolute facefull of why war sucks on a scale that the Right never did.
 
Imagine being a Ukranian drunk who blacked out right before the first missiles were fired and waking up a few hours from now

hahaha it would be an excuse just to drink at that point. You wake up hung over and the entire neighborhood is empty and fleeing West and explosions pop off all around you. Ukrainians even thought until like a week ago that nothing was ever going to happen.
 
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Funny how Germany is the eternal prize destination of the European economic migrant.

Would be a shame if something happened to critical sectors of the German economy....
germany needs cheap labor to keep up the social security pyramid scheme. they won't ever let anything happen to it officially.
 
Russian imageboard 2ch.ru / Dvach is sharing kind words shared by Americans of Color.

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From what I can tell it's actually the opposite right now. The left wants 'murica to 'do something' because bad russian man hates gays, and the right is mostly saying 'fuck going to war for grandpa Alzheimer'.
Yeah, I'm typing from my phone so what I said probably didn't make much sense, but the small quotes were two opposite opinions from each side.

I guess what I mean was, these are already conflicting opinions within each branch... And there are gonna be many more that my stoned brain cbf typing atm. An event like this, compounded by all the media attention it is (and will continue) gaining... Is going to make those differences even more apparent.
 
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America loses either way in regards to this tbh because of how divided it is. If Biden supports the Ukraine with military backing (unlikely), or if he doesn't and just imposes sanctions, it's going to divide both the left ('war is bad', 'protect their freedom') and the right ('fuck yeah muuuurica', '$$$')... and I'm not talking about separating the right from left further, I'm talking within their circles respectively.

This shit is probably gon a divide America even further no matter the response.
At least the US has the EU almost fully depend on them because Germany now refuses to put Nord Stream 2 into operation.

I truly think Putin waited for the likes of Biden and Baerbock to rule the western world to do this because he knew they wouldn’t do shit and the reality check that you can’t win wars by sperging about “muh democracy” will pop our bubble pretty hard. There’s finally a real international crisis and our governments do not know how to respond to it. They didn’t ask for it, all they wanted was to continue their Covid powertrip and enrich themselves at the expense of a vanishing middle class.

And I gotta say I’m still completely apathetic to all this. Like how the fuck do they expect me to react, should I suddenly care for some foreign country when my own government doesn’t even care about my people? Shouldn’t Ukraine feel enriched by the Russian invasion? Think about all the great Russian food. Maybe they are just racists if they defend themselves. I’m just jaded at this point.
 
It wouldn't have happened under Bernie, yeah he's a commie, but he had that kind of populism and crossover appeal that could have brought the country together more than the Trump era brought it to the brink of Civil War

Implying the establishment wouldn't have gone full scorched earth on Boinie. They cucked him in the primaries for a reason. Member - there was nothing particularly extreme or unusual about BLORMPH, except his Twitter trolling. He's a socially liberal, fiscally not even that conservative Boomer reality TV celebrity who elected for saying stuff mainstream Democrats believed in 1992. All the insanity and fear and reeesistance and delusions of fascism and racism were manufactured for the consumption of NPCs.

Anyway, fuck that, we're in the Command and Conquer Red Alert timeline now

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I’m wondering how Russia getting to legit bully its way into dominance over Ukraine will effect Biden’s chances of re-election
Biden is fucked unless he can pull wartime rules out of his ass. I don’t give a fuck what politicians say about muh progressive agenda. There is no fucking way those corrupt fucks are gonna have thier lives at risk with jimmy carter 2 at the heIm. They are all gonna do what it takes to get a tough guy in. Someone capable walking the tight rope of the land mine that thus is and no that’s not queen girl cop boss either.
 
Russia is justifying starting an actual war by saying "they're Nazis lol", and I'm watching it play out in real time on a shitposting forum, while both sides meme at each other on Twitter.

CURRENT YEAR, everyone.
they did that with Chechnya, capatilising on the islamic terrorism hysteria after 9/11. The west creates boogeymen and then Russia calls an old historical rival that so the west can't complain. No we aren't annexing Finland, they're just transphobes whose personhood is creating negative spaces for the indigenous peoples of the region.
 
I'm not even sure if Azov CAN be called legit Nazis considering their ranks seem to include actual Jews and other minorities. Everything about the Azov battalion is confusing as fuck.

Nothing is. Nazi symbolism has long been used as shorthand for "fuck the USSR" in the Soviet Union, and it translated pretty well to the post-soviet space. Also a lot of the nationalist symbology taken primarily from traditional dress, is, shockingly, full of swastikas.
 
My guess would be that Russia's strategy is getting to the capital in as little time as possible so to avoid international meddling.
Ukraine would try to take the opposite approach of trying to make the conflict as long as possible so international pressure would make Russia back off. Considering no one did shit for two months, Ukraine's chances are slim.
 
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