Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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Kramer on the phone said:
So at this point which areas of Ukraine has Russia not captured?

the military was seemingly wiped out within hours and they already surrounded the capital and are being resupplied by all the countries surrounding Ukraine. They should have just started negotiations a long time ago.
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It was rumored that they were intending to surround the capital given their 3-point invasion and that's probably still true, it won't happen that quickly though given how entrenched Ukranian soldiers are in the East. It is odd that it seemed Ukraine got caught off guard from Crimea and lost a strategic position, but maybe there's something we don't know.
 
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Willie Thrills said:
Explain to me, in detail, how you would plan on taking out ten thousand heavy tanks.

That's around 800,000 tonnes of steaming metal which would require millions of pounds worth, each, of maybe disabling if you got a good hit in.

Describe to me how well you would, logistically, handle such a problem.
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How many of those are in service, through? Like, I'm sure both sides don't have most of their vehicles up to combat
 
Willie Thrills said:
The Ukrainian military has two thousand heavy tanks.

The UK has approximately three hundred.

Russia has around ten thousand.

Explain to me, in detail, how you would plan on taking out ten thousand heavy tanks.

That's around 800,000 tonnes of steaming metal which would require millions of pounds worth, each, of maybe disabling if you got a good hit in.

Describe to me how well you would, logistically, handle such a problem.
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Quit saying "heavy tanks." Heavy tanks haven't existed since Korea. They have "main battle tanks." Also British and American ATGMs and APFSDS-DU ammo has no problem taking out T-90A or T-72B3/M tanks. A single Javelin or TOW-2B will score at minimum a mobility kill if not mission or total kill from a proper hit. Javs and TOWs both cost about six figures.
 
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Mussi said:
How many of those are in good working order? How useful will the ones that do work be after Ukraine's air defenses are obliterated and they became sitting ducks for Russian bombs? How long will Ukrainian soldiers sit in slow-moving metal coffins?
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Those are interesting questions.

Not what I was on about, though, what I was saying is that our governments can do precisely fuck-all except chat shit.

Ukraine is probably the best suited country, full-stop, to fight against Russia at present - it's mobilised, it's there and it's doing an okay-ish job. About what would be expected.

I'm talking about the delusional retards who think it would be wise to get involved - when in reality, Ukrainian forces would be trying to rescue French/British forces who get their shit pushed in by a fully-armed Russian Army Group.
 
FightenGnome said:
Let's not forget Canada's Justin Trudeau sending in the goon squad to fuck up actual peaceful protestors who want to be able to earn an income and freezing the bank accounts of those who support them.
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Up to and including a cafe that didn't refuse to seat Convoy members, the convoy's lawyers, and politicians on the other side of the political isle.

Tis the season for going ALL fucking in.
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Funny thing is, if you tried to put the WW2 art on a modern plane, the freakjob tranny you "work" with would scream bloody murder about male privilege and a hostile working environment, forcing your CO to force you to remove it.
 
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Willie Thrills said:
Those are interesting questions.

Not what I was on about, though, what I was saying is that our governments can do precisely fuck-all except chat shit.

Ukraine is probably the best suited country, full-stop, to fight against Russia at present - it's mobilised, it's there and it's doing an okay-ish job. About what would be expected.

I'm talking about the delusional retards who think it would be wise to get involved - when in reality, Ukrainian forces would be trying to rescue French/British forces who get their shit pushed in by a fully-armed Russian Army Group.
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Yeah, I just realized what you meant right before you posted your reply and deleted my post. My bad.
 
Willie Thrills said:
The Ukrainian military has two thousand heavy tanks.

The UK has approximately three hundred. France is similar.

Russia has around ten thousand.

Explain to me, in detail, how you would plan on taking out ten thousand heavy tanks.

That's around 800,000 tonnes of steaming metal which would require millions of pounds worth, each, of maybe disabling if you got a good hit in.

Describe to me how well you would, logistically, handle such a problem.

How in God's name could you possibly expect to tip the balance of power of an already strong Ukrainian military and push it against the even stronger Russian military - without using magic.
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You don't need magic, just air superiority
Sad thing the west will not send anything except hollow words
 
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