Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[cybertoaster]

Isn't the Russian stance that the Werwolf campaign was made unnecessary because the allies started working with the nazis?
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The russian stance is that they won WWII alone when the fact is that if it wasnt for all the free shit we gave them they would've at best signed another surrender like during WWI or get wiped out leaving a crippled germany that could be taken out with a fraction of the actual forces we had to employ.

If anything we're the real retards for helping these commies back then just like we did during the commie-caused famine of 1921 which basically saved the commie regime from total collapse.

That wasnt an Issue till the coup of 2014 also nukes are not a good deterrent as long as you dont have 2nd strike capabilities, thats alot of investment for a poor country like ukraine.

2nd strike its easier than it seems, ukraine already has a rocket industry and it would be relatively easy for them to build their own ICBMs. Then there's cruise missiles which are far easier to make. Even a single low-flying cruise missile with a decent warhead would deal far too much damage to moscow for the russians to take the risk, and you can launch tens if not hundreds of those missiles from a few reinforced bunkers.

If anything not propping up ukraine since the fall of the ussr was a massive fuckup from our part, we wouldn't be having any issues with russia if they had a nuclear-capable neighbor with a lot of bad blood with them.

 

[Happy Fish]

https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1496925584806526983

>PRES. BIDEN: "No one expected the sanctions to prevent anything from happening..."

Then why place them at all? Why even place sanctions to begin with?

Master of diplomacy and Presidential authority everyone.


Fucking dumbfuck

 

[Kaede Did Nothing Wrong]

Fag who has read a history book checking in here

Hitler got Austria and Czechoslovakia in damn similar ways as Putin got Crimea and Belarus

this is Putins Poland, this is where the western powers will and have failed like they did in 1939.

The EU and United states could have put 200,000 ground troops on the Ukrainian border and forced Putin to invade or capitulate, either option guaranteeing the death of his regime just as a failed invasion of Poland would have spelled the end of hitlers regime

Like the third Reich the Russian federation is missing fundamental things that make even a regional hegemony long term impossible but because the western powers have refused to respond to aggression with aggression the entirety of NATO as well as the EU is RIPE for being defeated in detail.

It blows my mind hearing fellow American FAGGOTS saying they don't want American blood to be spilled for Ukraine because they sound as MONKEY GORRILA RETARED as the French who said why die for Danzig

Also any cuck who winges about nuclear war needs to read up about MAD and then shoot themselves. We didn't nuke each other in korea, nam, the Bold War or any other flashpoint so saying it would happen now is just ignorant of history

Biden and all of the western leaders will be remembered in history books with the likes of Chamberlain and Laval

ww2 truly is the creation myth of american empire. doesn't matter all the fucked up military intervention that happened in the +70 years since then, or the radically different domestic policies we champion at home. bad guys are muh hitler and not killing people for the US gov is appeasement.

 

[Stasi]

Buddy its not a 1-1 kinda deal its just patterns of authoritarian regimes. Mao did the same thing consolidating china

IF the EU lets Ukraine fall without declaring any kind of military retaliation on Russia it will give Russia the go ahead to take aggressive actions in the Balkans and the Baltics. Both areas they have keen interests in

Bro for the love of god please stop, you are making yourself look like a bigger imbecile with each post.

Also saying you've read a history book before making an idiotic statement wont make people take you seriously.

 

[Nobunaga]

Dafuq?

Using non-uniformed combatants is a straight-up Geneva Convention violation, and would result in those people having the status of "illegal combatants" - the least-protected status in warfare.

Remember, the Geneva Conventions guarantee special protections to people of the following status:

• "Civilian": You're not a legitimate target. "Proportionality" restricts whether you may be killed as collateral damage in a strike against a legitimate target near you.
• "Privileged combatant" (i.e. regular soldier): You must be properly treated as a POV when captured.

An "illegal combatant" has neither of those protections.
Thus it's something you really don't want to call on your population to become, except as a matter of last resort in the face of extinction.
So either, the Ukrainian ministry of defense is really desperate - or they're assholes who would gladly sacrifice their citizens' legal protections in an effort to hold on to power.

... Or maybe they're just banking on the Western world / courts not giving a fuck about the Geneva Conventions anymore in the Current Year, and simply declaring all that Russia did illegal, and all that Ukraine did legal, by fiat.

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Disclaimer: IANAL, just a fellow sperg.

Nigger nobody gives a fuck about GENEVA, they are just an excuse so the losing country can bitch and moan about bugged war mechanics

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Wake up to find out it's basically over.

Good to know Biden spent last night and today ensuring the stability of the free world.

 

[Mussi]

Buddy its not a 1-1 kinda deal its just patterns of authoritarian regimes. Mao did the same thing consolidating china

IF the EU lets Ukraine fall without declaring any kind of military retaliation on Russia it will give Russia the go ahead to take aggressive actions in the Balkans and the Baltics. Both areas they have keen interests in

Are you actually retarded? The west is treaty-bound to defend the Baltics and most of the Balkans, it's completely unlike Ukraine. Putin knows this, which is why he's only targeted non-NATO members.

 

[UselessPieceOfShit]

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I know this was likely posted, but I wonder what these biolabs were doing (archive).

There are no info on those labs except your typical tin foil hats posting. There are no such laboratory in my city, that I can say for sure. The one that falls under this description of biolab is some shaggy lab that runs tests on harvest bugs and provides services as any usual lab. I even was inside it. Pretty boring for a CIA gay psyop.

 

[Johan Schmidt]

ww2 truly is the creation myth of american empire. doesn't matter all the fucked up military intervention that happened in the +70 years since then, or the radically different domestic policies we champion at home. bad guys are muh hitler and not killing people for the US gov is appeasement.

Holocaustianity isn't just a meme.

 

[Nami-Swan]

Most of the people in this thread have never read a history book and seem to think Russia will just stop its ambitions after Ukraine

Its incalculable how bad a position the EU and NATO will be as a whole once a sovereign nation with ties to both is allowed to be subsumed by a regional power without so much as a western bullet being fired

Maybe the EU and NATO should cease to exist, then.

 

[Toothpaste]

Despite over a thousand arrests, anti-war protests are still going on in Moscow.




They even defaced the entrance to the State Duma (parliament) building.

 

[BradCarter]

Yep, just make a classic, Fat Man-style nuke just in case you go to war with a country that has air superiority. Or better yet, detonate a nuke in your own territory. Man, why didn't the Ukrainian government think to do that? You westerners are so smart.

Any use of a nuclear weapon against another nuclear power guarantees you'll be nuked. That's what the entire nuclear doctrine is based on you raging retard. It's called MAD if you want to learn about it. Blowing nukes near the border to wipe out the speartip of an invading country has been discussed in countless military doctrines and is a great deterrent.

 

[StudMccool]

Are you actually retarded? The west is treaty-bound to defend the Baltics and most of the Balkans, it's completely unlike Ukraine. Putin knows this, which is why he's only targeted non-NATO members.

The faith in NATO will completely fall apart if Ukraine falls without western military backing

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Holocaustianity isn't just a meme.

Please recite six hail gorillions for your sins

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Every single sanction will only hurt the rest of Europe. Honestly, we think we're still playing chess when we were actually mated long ago

For western europe gas gets pricy and its inconvenient, for Rusia streets cats and dogs are back on the menu, if they aren't already, their economy really is that shit.

 

[Mega Black]

>"I'm going to unleash overwhelming, super-duper sanctions"
>Doesn't even touch one of Russia's main exports

Absolutely zero balls.

Please understand, 5D chess, Biden is very smart he is not orange man bad please don't talk about him like that he just needs another nap then he'll really take Putin to task please understand.

It's hard to fix anything when you're an Eastern European nation, seeing as you're typically full of Eastern European "people". Again, Mongols should have exterminated the lot of them.

If only the Mongolians had won, we'd all be basket weaving, throat-singing, and drinking horse-titty milk rather than shitposting right now.

 

[CognitiveDeficiency]

White House press briefing soon

 

[33l]

The faith in NATO will completely fall apart if Ukraine falls without western military backing

That's retarded Ukraine isn't NATO stupid

 

[Kermit Jizz]

The faith in NATO will completely fall apart if Ukraine falls without western military backing

>Faith in NATO will fall apart if NATO doesn't defend non-NATO country
??????

 

[Bec]

Lol.

https://twitter.com/furaffinity/status/1496851736773939206

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bonus:

https://twitter.com/eniworef/status/1496928727648903172

(this one is a parody instead of an original tweet unfortunately)