Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Stalker 4 is going to pretty lit dood.
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Clearly this is no slam dunk for the Ukes, Quite the opposite, really. So the child soldier thing is a bad idea.
It's no slam dunk for either side, which is the worst case scenario. The best case scenarios are Ukraine rolling over in a few days or Russia getting obliterated and Putin's government collapsing. Anything else will result in too many deaths.
 
How motivated are the civilians to fight?

I don't remember reading that the civilians of stalingrand did any fighting.

They just stayed in their holes and ruins and kept dying by the tens of thousands every month.
I think there were a number of civilians in Stalingrad who fought - although I think they were mainly factory workers and had a choice between being shot in the head by an NKVD officer for refusing to fight the Germans, or go out and die to the Germans anyway.

I don't see how civilians will make a big impact anyway. Many who had some army experience have already been conscripted so the ones left probably won't have anything to offer.
 
It's possible that Russia might not occupy Ukraine, just install some friendly government officials and then fuck off. On the other hand, Putin legitimately did sound that he was serious when he said that Ukraine was basically a fake country.
I'll reiterate what I've said earlier. Its big or go home, the winds of history are blowing and Russia has gambled EVERYTHING. Ukraine will be an important setpiece in future geopolitics, not only because its seen as an integral part of the Russian sphere of influence (and even Russian nation by Putin and co.), but also because it will help serve as China's breadbasket as climate induced droughts and global economic crisis threatens their food supply. I predict full annexation as a Russian republic, along with Belarus, within a few weeks to a few years.
 
So is Kiev about to be attacked from multiple sides? If so, will the Russians coordinate their forces to attack around the same timeframe or will they just do fuck all and attack one at a time with no coordination?
Just spitballing, but they might go slow in from the west, but only go on a full assault once they've linked up with eastern forces and encircled the city.
 
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I think there were a number of civilians in Stalingrad who fought - although I think they were mainly factory workers and had a choice between being shot in the head by an NKVD officer for refusing to fight the Germans, or go out and die to the Germans anyway.

I don't see how civilians will make a big impact anyway. Many who had some army experience have already been conscripted so the ones left probably won't have anything to offer.
It creats an opportunity for good optics. Civillians with guns means they become enemy combatants and a legitimate target in war time. However the BBC and CNN wil run wall to wall coverage of the evil bear masquering ordinary Ukrainians.
 
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