Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
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Based hillbilly doesn't like your gay hollywood analogies, liberals. This is the real world, not a movie.
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Right, still been moving and 300 pages is a bit much to read holy shit guys. What is the latest points since yesterday?
Some international vessels got hit and NATO had a meeting about what their response would be. The President of Ukraine is remaining in Kiev as far as I am aware. The war is still going on as it was yesterday unsurprisingly and the propaganda machine of both sides is in full motion.

Edit: Also a Russian foreign ministry spokesperson warned Sweden and Finland bad things would happen if they tried to join NATO. Probably a bluff but at this point who knows.
 
PSA for those struggling with every issue not being polar extremes:

Not giving a fuck about Ukraine is not the same as actively supporting Putin. It is a fairly irrelevant Eastern European nation that is not NATO, EU or any other defensive pact nation.

The west is fresh off 20 years of world policing that went terribly and all of our economies are quickly heading to the point we won't be able to afford the lifestyles to which we and the two generations before us are accustomed.

On a background of that I really can't find the energy to sperg "Putin bad" all over the place when it effects me far less than the domestic issues that are being distracted from by this little show.
 
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If any of you think that this war is because of NATO, you are dumb as shit. Every last Ukrainian government was moscow puppet. Previous opposition leader who got major voting force was Viktor Yushchenko - he was poisoned and after that he couldnt reproduce his success.

The real reason why Russia invaded is because Ukraine started to modernize and prosper. Slowly, but steadily. And this is biggest possible threat to Putin. Because if people of Russia could see that their western neighbours, who are just like them, can reduce corruption, can take good use of their resources, can have better lives they will revolt!
Doubt that. Have you personally visited Kyiv? I did before pandmic. It was quite far away from being modern and prosper. If anything, it was like traveling back in time after EU and even Russia.
 
This is the most pitiable kind of tribalist thinking. "Well, he might be a dictator who launches wars of aggression, murders his critics and builds giant mansions for his cronies while regular people live in poverty, but at least he doesn't like transgenders!"
cheap sentimentalism is the last line of defense for buckbroken poorfags staning third world dictatorships. Tankies are much the same.

Ah yes... Checks watermark, the very reliable American propaganda agency of Radio Free Europe.

The same guys that helped to propagate the lie that Iraq had WMD
oh yes comrade , sorry, i read RT now, Russia stronk, rubble to the moon, much economy under glorious leader and oligarchs, i hear the venezuelan bolivar will be worth more than the dollar now too, good time to invest.
 
The PRC invading Taiwan doesn’t scare me because of the PRC itself. It scares me because we can’t replace TSMC. It could cause a literal dark age even if the PRC fails at the invasion.

The other wild card is Japan. Anything the PRC does to Taiwan will freak Japan the fuck out. They are already really pissed at Russia for invading a country on the other side of the world. They project this image of peace-loving island people but nobody actually knows what Japanese really think except the Japanese themselves. They are not afraid to just push a ‘fuck you’ button and ignore what the rest of the world thinks for their own interests. We’ve already seen that dichotomy in action with Wu Flu.
 
Some international vessels got hit and NATO had a meeting about what their response would be. The President of Ukraine is remaining in Kiev as far as I am aware. The war is still going on as it was yesterday unsurprisingly and the propaganda machine of both sides is in full motion.
Any confirmation on which side hit the vessels? Fog of war could have made it be Putin, but also could be a legit false flag by the Ukrainians to pull in outside help.
 
There's like 200 people at each of these protests and you still aren't addressing how you'd deal with the encroachment of America and NATO.
Russia could always genuinely try to be a part of Europe instead of setting itself apart

Russia did try that at times under the Tsars and it worked out pretty well for them, better than other Russian attempts at making a place in the sun for itself like the Soviet Union or as the Great Protector of All Slav Squatters Everywhere in the 19th century up through WW1
 
russians don't even bother to take their dead, just dump them like trash on the side of the road

also you misspelled "fertilizer"
Who says Russia is not a modern country.

 
Imagine being so dumb you believe the propaganda from the Chinese government. Stupid fucking left-winger Gen Zers

Now imagine being so dumb you believe in the propaganda of Russia. Welcome to KF. Putin is just fighting globalist Jews, guys. It's not a joke I really believe that! He is just a man fighting for the best for his country while killing journos and jailing citizens. Just a countryman. MRGA! Putin strong man meme, me like meme magic, me frogpost, Putin fight globohomo! Meme magic, Putin good! Putin strong, me like strong, and other people hate Putin so me like Putin! Oh and Putin strong man me like!!!
 
The real reason why Russia invaded is because Ukraine started to modernize and prosper. Slowly, but steadily. And this is biggest possible threat to Putin. Because if people of Russia could see that their western neighbours, who are just like them, can reduce corruption, can take good use of their resources, can have better lives they will revolt!

That isn't true at all. Ukraine before the crisis was in a perpetual state of bankruptcy. The county's economy was only kept alive by endless series of IMF payments that allowed the
country to pay for imports with hard currency. Ukraine's economy was not modernizing and not prospering. Most countries refused to give any large aid packages to Ukraine
out of the fear that any cash given without short-term conditions and reform objectives would simply be stolen.

I mean the highest court in Ukraine ruled that Ukrainian's have a constitutional right to lie about their incomes on tax returns and the country has fought economic reform
at every step.

Ukraine sees the solution to all its problems being with the EU and NATO. NATO will relieve them of any responsibility for their own defense and the EU will
unconditionally give them "free money" which will allow the country to avoid any modernization or reform. The Russian invasion has no positive aspects, but
Ukraine was a failed state before the invasion.
 
Right, still been moving and 300 pages is a bit much to read holy shit guys. What is the latest points since yesterday?

Right there have been Russian movements toward Kiev, last night they hit them with ballistic missiles and reportedly the power is off in Kiev but the Ukrainians are still fighting them for every inch of ground.

The US State Department believes Russia's momentum is slowing down as the Ukrainian resistance becomes stronger. At least one bridge leading into Kiev has been destroyed by the Ukrainians to stop any Russian advancement.

Also last night a Russian plane was shot down over Kiev and partially crashed into an apartment building.

Zelenskyy has vowed to say in Kiev or at least in Ukraine without fleeing to a neighboring country.
 
The PRC invading Taiwan doesn’t scare me because of the PRC itself. It scares me because we can’t replace TSMC. It could cause a literal dark age even if the PRC fails at the invasion.

The other wild card is Japan. Anything the PRC does to Taiwan will freak Japan the fuck out. They are already really pissed at Russia for invading a country on the other side of the world. They project this image of peace-loving island people but nobody actually knows what Japanese really think except the Japanese themselves. They are not afraid to just push a ‘fuck you’ button and ignore what the rest of the world thinks for their own interests. We’ve already seen that dichotomy in action with Wu Flu.
Rape of Moscow when? Don't underestimate Japanese chinX letting out their inner savagery after decades of only coping with consooming guro loli hentai.
 
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