General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[lakyus]

That was pure undistilled western vtuber cancer, like the worst case scenario in a multi-agency collab made real. For one Niji is at fault here for still let the door wide open to them, maybe their strategy is to pander to that demography but JESUS.... It makes hard to love nijiEN in this conditions (i cant blame the talents tho, its most a corpo decision), at least in holoEN i can skip Calli & Kiara and watch peacefully the rest who are aware of the dangers of being too close to that side of the western market.

I watched it from Pikamee's POV, she felt the need to consistently reassure everyone that she's having fun.

 

[Akumaten]

I feel like people are also glossing over the fact that Rushia's manager did make a call to remedy the situation. That being to stay put and wait for it to blow over like Towa, Calli, etc. In hindsight too that actually is the right decision but if what Korekore is saying is true than Rushia basically ignored what her manager told her to do because she perceived it as a form of "bullying" and went to him behind her Manager's back out of sheer stupidity and desperation. At that point the only way her manager could have stopped her was to take away her internet like a child getting grounded.

And prior to Rushia talking to a journoscum, it wasn't as serious compared with Yozora Mel's situation which required law enforcement or Coco and Hatto which unintentionally caused an international incident (though for the best in the long term).

 

[kukkia]

Does this simp spread more missinformation or he actually did his reps on this topic? Also that comment just show how "fans" have NO FUCKING IDEA a company/agency in JP or EN works.

That was pure undistilled western vtuber cancer, like the worst case scenario in a multi-agency collab made real. For one Niji is at fault here for still let the door wide open to them, maybe their strategy is to pander to that demography but JESUS.... It makes hard to love nijiEN in this conditions (i cant blame the talents tho, its most a corpo decision), at least in holoEN i can skip Calli & Kiara and watch peacefully the rest who are aware of the dangers of being too close to that side of the western market.

Are you guys really still this angry about a single collab that was ages ago in vtuber terms? All the recent NijiEN-VShojo/other Twitch vtuber interactions have been fine and had good views.

 

[Cubanodun]

The first boss of the game is apparently one of the hardest 'first' bosses of the game series (Compared to Phalanx, Taurus Demon, Lost Giant, Iudex Gundyr, Cleric Beast, or Gyoubu Masataka Oniwa)

Bullshit, worse than Lady Butterfly? now i want to play it more

 

[I am not here]

Does this simp spread more missinformation or he actually did his reps on this topic? Also that comment just show how "fans" have NO FUCKING IDEA a company/agency in JP or EN works.

his take is after a bit of looking in, likely maybe even going into the "forbidden knowledge" and maybe asking KSON. He accepts its a messy thing, 50/50 split on the fault of the entire situation. He understands Rushia fucked up with the whole contract and leaking info thing. The 50 on Cover is mostly usual stuff of mental health, support yadda yadda and how frustrating it is when all the fanbase gets is PR talk.

That's my tl;dr. To be frank, Koefficient at least tries to understand the whole situation before shoving his foot in his mouth, unlike a certain whore in Vshojo (its Veibae btw if you're dense or on that Vshojo fap train). Supposedly FalseEyeD released a vid on it. Which.. shame no one on the thread picked up on it because we're so fucking autistic on the rrats, tribalism, corpos are bad, doomposting etc etc or maybe the thread just doesn't trust FalseEye

Anyways, FaleseEye's vid is below for your watching. It's.. complete in a sense on the situation imho

 

[Kusogaki]

maybe someone can explain this for me but why, do some of you have such hatred for nijisanji and vshojo? is it just typical tribalism or dose it go deeper?

i can sorta see why people dislike vshojo but that's more because the talents that work there rather than the company.

I think the previous replies sum pretty well the feelings towards vshojo & niji. I just want to point how many people takes a dislike or a disinterest as hating something, like it is white or black but not shades of grey. There are very few people that actually hate, in the literal word, an agency or talent, mostly schizos.

 

[lakyus]

The problem with this thinking is you're assuming the meme of "Yagoo's House Of Broken Girls" when not all of them are like that.
Menhara or not, if you leak private information, that's on you. As an actual autistic person myself, if I was told I got a pass for my deficiencies instead of getting treated like a normal employee for a pretty major fuckup. I'd feel even worse.

She wouldn't get any special treatment on account of autism for spilling confidential info, especially if it's true that she did it with malicious intent.

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I feel like people are also glossing over the fact that Rushia's manager did make a call to remedy the situation. That being to stay put and wait for it to blow over like Towa, Calli, etc. In hindsight too that actually is the right decision but if what Korekore is saying is true than Rushia basically ignored what her manager told her to do because she perceived it as a form of "bullying" and went to him behind her Manager's back out of sheer stupidity and desperation. At that point the only way her manager could have stopped her was to take away her internet like a child getting grounded.

I might be recalling it incorrectly or it might've been a narrative anons crafted but I think she had a manager changed and the new one was pretty hard on her - so she started basically ignoring him/her or giving template responses.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1497351947589926915?s=21

 

[moments fade pain remains]

Idol bullies woman with short tongue. How dare she!?

IRyS noticed Haachama's creation in the EN server.

 

[TrashBoost]

Bruh Rushia is crazy. With each day there is more "evidence" against Rushia than against Cover. So I'm just gonna side with Rushia is at fault and be done with it.

Especially with how all the talents have acted nonchalant and a little cold towards the news. Sure it's easy to say well "Corporate told them to act that way" maybe but when Gen 3 made their announcement Peko and Marine were crying so that shows at least for that announcement the gen mates were allowed to show their true emotions and Flare and Noel's emotions were idgaf. Fubuki said she'll leave if shit turned bad and doesn't seem bothered by what happened. When Coco made her announcement several holo members went to their alt accounts dropping hints that they've also thought about leaving.

Good luck to Rushia with her new account I just hope she doesn't go back to the GFE shit again.

 

[Renmai]

tbh I really don't care about Rushia's firing. This isn't like Coco, she brought it on herself. She also isn't an influence like Coco. idgaf

 

[Scuttle]

maybe the thread just doesn't trust FalseEye

FalseEyeD literally cannot be untrustworthy because all he does is read other people's stuff as content.

Are you guys really still this angry about a single collab that was ages ago in vtuber terms? All the recent NijiEN-VShojo/other Twitch vtuber interactions have been fine and had good views.

At least it was memory-holed and improved on in the future. People in this thread still talk about HoloMyth/Council collabs like it's unpaid voluntary work to sit through.

 

[Bingeamint]

Kiara Eldin Ring trip report:

Displays all the classic beginner mistakes of being too aggressive and spam rolling to try and dodge stuff. But there was definite improvement over the course of the stream. Mamatori and Calli even showed up to give pointers to her as she tried.

The first boss of the game is apparently one of the hardest 'first' bosses of the game series (Compared to Phalanx, Taurus Demon, Lost Giant, Iudex Gundyr, Cleric Beast, or Gyoubu Masataka Oniwa). I haven't reached it yet, so I can't personally attest. I've definitely seen tons of streamers needing to slam their head against it for a while. Kiara's best attempt towards the end:

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Overall, chicken did well. Hope she's not too discouraged and keeps up the attempts.

Bullshit, worse than Lady Butterfly? now i want to play it more

Been playing it for like 10 hours today, been an absolute blast to play. Shit is good classic fromsoft fun. Will have to skip through to see how Kiara faired against some bosses now.

Excuse the minor derail. Continue the theory-posting.

 

[Ralph Barnhardt]

Pippa is currently playing cube game with Pina and isn't making a total ass out of herself!

 

[trailcamwhore]

FalseEyeD literally cannot be untrustworthy because all he does is read other people's stuff as content.

Nah. He took the HATERS AND INCELS BTFO angle on the Mori "lean" thing, when the truth was that it was funny and embarrassing. Untrustworthy on everything forever after.

 

[EenGevolg]

You know I was wondering how someone would make the whole Rushia situation somehow about Nijisanji. Nice effort.

When you have the ability to even make the matter of stalkers into "seeing more Holo stalkers, guess that means Holo's bigger than Niji", anything is possible. Such is the power of tribalist alchemy, any matter gets transmutated into bait.

Also got on the Niji/indie Amogus stream and, just as I got on, Bao apparently went off crying. Any info about this?

 

[Kazuma]

Anyone catch Baelz' membership stream? If so what was the gist of it?

What with current events (both Hololive and... elsewhere), and the fact that she's supposed to be chaos incarnate, this tweet hits a little differently.
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In her member stream yesterday, She mentioned that the music video for her original song might be delayed. She sounded pretty sad when talking about her music video possibly getting delayed. I guess she tweeted this because her music video won't get delayed.

 

[Scuttle]

Also got on the Niji/indie Amogus stream and, just as I got on, Bao apparently went off crying. Any info about this?

She had a little bit of a Kanata moment getting stressed about being new/bad at the game. Didn't last long and she muted the mic. Rosemi brought it up because her chat was mentioning it.

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Also, not sure if anyone has talked about it, but r/Hololive has been in complete lockdown since the announcement. They literally do not want to deal with the Holo fans right now (and for good reason, I'd be on my alt peddling rrats to the masses).

The only recent post is from Watame herself. The sub is dead.

 

[Golurk Learned Fly]

Anyways, FaleseEye's vid is below for your watching. It's.. complete in a sense on the situation imho

Here's his followup on the situation, where he mentions the previous leaks and possible infighting between Rushia and other talents.

New Claims Regarding Rushia Termination, Hololive Refunds, IRyS Original Song, ironmouse Cover

Socials: https://FalseEyeD.carrd.co/00:00 KoreTube Shares Rushia Screenshots03:49 Hololive Offers Refunds On Merchandise04:38 Hololive JP Gen 3 Statement05:0...

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[danny jr]

End of an era. Sad it had to be like this... Rushia's bad judgement already showed in Minecraft when she was calling the strider "cute."

If the reason she supposedly felt "bullied" was because someone streamed at the same time as her, is anyone among us autistic enough to analyze Rushia's stream times in the latter half of 2021 vs her senpais' stream times?

Are there tables that show stream times or does it have to be done manually? Maybe I can try this later today. I'm taking her Senpais to be Gen 0, 1, 2, and Gamers.