Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[ColtWalker1847]

Iraq is more or less aligned with Iran

Except when it isn't.

Again with the media talking points. All your other bullshit as well.

they're buying exclusively Russian weapon systems.

Bullshit. Name them. What "exclusive weapons system" do they have that is Russian. They bought some cheap AA and a few helicopters. Some BMP-3s that probably will never be delivered because of this bullshit. That's it. Their gear is overwhelmingly western or refurbished old Soviet stuff that they had before.

Does anyone else see what I mean about the "US losing" getting stuck in people's heads? This was my point. People who just watched the news but didn't actually look at the details for themselves.

 

[Johnny Salami]

Check out this Twitter faggot who is literally trying to get Ukrainians killed by tanks:
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He is actually instructing Ukrainians to attack tanks with paint-filled water balloons, and he's so fucking smug about it.

LMAO this nigger blocked me on Twitter when I called his abortion tweet dumb years ago. I only remember because he has a punchable avatar

 

[Bixnood]

Has Josh said anything about his situation yet?

He asked for honourable kiwis to send him: Funds, a copy of Elden Ring and all the bottled cum we can produce

 

[RedDelicious]

This is actually a decent hypothesis. Keyword: hypothesis.

Not really. Russia has a competent enough intelligence sector that they probably aren't going to find anything they don't already know. They probably aren't going to find anything at all given that when you invade someone- and there's even a chance of losing- the first thing they're gonna do is start cooking the books.

 

[Richardface]

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JOSHUA "APOKOLIPS" MOON HAS TAKEN FLIGHT; LET THE CHILDREN OF SODOM TREMBLE

 

[JustSomeDong]

He asked for honourable kiwis to send him: Funds, a copy of Elden Ring and all the bottle cum we can produce

You forgot the feet pics.

 

[MG-34]

Null is confirmed dead. Body found mangled outside his apartment building.

Source: Trust me bro.

I can confirm. A Former Lance Corporal from the US Marines working for Azov Regiment, Jace Connors witnessed his slaying at the hands of rape hungry Chechen irregular forces in a statement on telegram.

 

[ShittlerNiggler]

>JUST shoot out the optics on the soldiers' rifles so you can get right up close to the tank (why? trying to not kill the enemy troops?)
>then, JUST throw water balloons full of paint at the tank periscope
Is this like the martial equivalent of those scammy life hack channels? Wouldn't it just be easier to engage them conventionally at that point?


I think one factor here is the level of online censorship. People only know war through sanitized pedowood movies. It lacks horrors of war; the human suffering, and especially the gore. The family friendly capeshit movies don't show someone blown apart with their organs hanging out, and neither does footage like that make it through mainstream social media censorship. Thus war seems all fun and games. Now even LiveLeak is gone.
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And I'm just saying all this as a soft first worlder who has never known war. For the most part, all I know of it is through online computer shit. I am sure there are many further horrors that are beyond my comprehension. I heard from an Afghanistan veteran a story about how he was out on some patrol. It was getting into the afternoon, and he had not eaten since early morning, so he was getting pretty hungry. They start pulling into a village, and they're having a big BBQ or roast type event, he can smell it and wants some; it smells really good. They pull around a bend, and they stumble into some kind of ongoing engagement. A vehicle is on fire, with a number of dead Afghans roasting inside; that's what had his mouth watering. Apparently he could barely stomach meat for a couple years afterward.

Even Reddit used to have a rl gore sub (watchpeopledie) which often showed HD videos of people dying in various ways.
Of course it was shut down by the people that get upset over false pronouns as soon as it gained enough followers

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

This is what Twitter actually believes

 

[nonperson]

There will be if the US prevents Zelenskyy from meeting Putin and the NATO gets involved. All it needs is a "accidental" rocket to hit a NATO country, something that could totally not be staged to have an excuse to spend those $6.4 billion the US just approved.


You do know that Russia helped al-Assad survive the US funded civil war and a far greater conflict could have emerged from that? Stakes are always high.

European countries care more about this because it's in their backyard, and everything is relying on Putin not touching neighbouring NATO countries. It also puts them in a big pickle, since even the economic war is hard to do when you rely on the benevolance of the baddie to keep your industry running and your people warm.

Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan - none of these places were this close to home, nor did they have the same potential to lead to a confrontation the way this does.

We're all basically relying on the assumption that Putin would 'never go beyond Ukraine' - remember most of the world (myself included) was convinced he would never go into Ukraine to begin with. This invasion isn't the most rational decision.

I don't remember the US threatening to nuke Russia when they decided to directly go into Syria and support Assad either.

I'm not saying those other wars weren't important. I'm just pointing out some reasons why european countries care a lot more about this one.

 

[Richardface]

HERE COMES THE SIEGE GUNS

Rob Lee (@RALee85)

Russian 2S4 Tyulpan 240mm heavy mortars and 2S7M Malka 203mm heavy artillery pieces on the move in Belgorod. Note, the have "Z" on them, indicating they are heading into Ukraine. Photos: Михаил Воскресенский https://vk.com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_2233179

nitter.net

 

[IKOL]

kherson

old photo, champ, try to post a new one.

 

[Hackallier]

There are some sporadic gunshots going off in Kiev.

 

[No. 7 cat]

lol Turks are probably the only modern era empire to have an even worse military track record than the Russians.

Well they kept it together longer than expected. I almost think they encouraged 'sick man of Europe' idea so Britain and others would keep them safe from the Russian meanies.

 

[дядя Боря]

Comedy gold

car driver stops by the BTR: "hey dudes, did you brake down?"
"nah, ran out of fuel"
"may be tow you back to Russia?"
"ha ha"
"Do you know where are you going?"
"no, I don't"
"you are going toward Kiev"

 

[Johnny Salami]

Yeah, ole fatrick has a thread full of hilarious shit. I think it appropriate that fatrick's brilliant hot-takes may heal the divides in this thread. It's certainly something we can all enjoy laughing at.

https://mobile.twitter.com/stealthygeek/status/1497409420455776258?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Glad to know this nigger is volunteering Americans to fight on his behalf

 

[MazdamundiDidNothingWrong]

lol I seriously doubt that.

Then go read any book on the subject stubborn retard, I don't have to flex my autism credentials any further for you to be wrong.

 

[Granate37]

Not my fault you can't be assed to read any documents on the subject matter, especially with the internet making said material publicly available

Shaped Charge - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics

www.sciencedirect.com

25.3.2 Applications​

The empirical result [10] indicates that optimum stand-off is from 2 to 6 charge diameters; the best penetration is obtained at a cone angle of 42 degree; penetration can be 4–6 diameters and even reach 12;​

In this case with a 127mm warhead with like what the javelin has, the optimum distance for the penetrator could be 6*127, so even with 750mm of spacing you're not doing shit. And if it's standoff is at 12 calibers then you'd need ~1500mm of air before you see any meaningful loss in penetration.

That implies they are already programmed to detonate well below optimum distance, yes?

 

[God of Nothing]

There is another name for cooked humans. Long pig.

Eh, I'd try it.

 

[Bixnood]

There is another name for cooked humans. Long pig.

Ahh the other other white meat.