Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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I think people need to understand this:
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naffatune said:
Yeah, it seems like there are quite a bit of convoys that are being deserted by Russian troops. Then again, that's what you see on Twitter and on the front page of r/combatfootage, so it's very likely biased towards the Ukie side.

When you pay attention to the Russian telegrams (e.g. @milinfolive, @voynareal, @istorijaoruzija, @ugolok_sitha), you realize that there is as much footage of Ukrainian vehicles getting abandoned and captured as there are Russian ones, and almost as much pictures of dead Ukie soldiers too

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Despite this balance, my money is still on the Russians. Besides, if you're a country that finds itself giving troops to civilians in order to form militias, it's probably a sign that your professional military is not in good shape.

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My guess is that Russian troops are FAR more disiplined when it comes to taking pictures as compared to Ukrainian civilians (and for the most part, Ukrainian civvies wont be taking pictures in areas where Russian forces are attacking, enganging in combat and advancing). And on top of that, even if Ukrainians do post it its likely to not end up in Russian circles. Personally I believe the Ukrainians are suffering much heavier losses than Russians on the ground, maybe 2-3 times as many. BUT even if these 6 (7?) abandoned Russian convoys are all of the convoys that have been abandoned (and they likely are) it still doesn't bode well. Why are they being abandoned? If supply and artillery convoys are coming under attack from Ukrainian troops to the point that they have to be abandoned, that's very serious. Though at least they may be able to recapture them later. Is there a president for this on other conflicts? Anything similar in ww2, or in Iraq and Egypt among Isreali and American forces?
 
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Stoneheart said:
The M-1 has problems like needing extensive refurbishment after getting in contact with sand.
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Like every other tank.
Stoneheart said:
the gun is also outdated and cant be upgraded any further because the tank design is bad.
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I know, right? It seems like they would have done a better job designing the tank with all the obvious flaws that made it the premier tank since NINETEEN FUCKING EIGHTY FOUR!

I mean, those 1970's weapon's designers should have totally looked at the designs by...

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Well, they still should have designed a better tank instead of the tank everyone rates their tanks against.

Stupid 1970's weapon designers.
 
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Delicious Diversity said:
BREAKING NEWS OF SEVERE IMPORTANCE:

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#UkrainianLivesDon'tMatterUntilBlackLivesMatter
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>Be nigger
>Globohomo gives you special treatment with kiddy gloves and a silver plater
>Go to Europe in hopes of raping and robbing the wealthier countries
>Uh oh you ended up in one of the worse ones
>Trouble in paradise: now the country you landed on got fucked into a war
>Run for your life back to the shithole you came from since the Russians will leave nothing to rape or rob there
>Evacuating authorities say they are prioritizing Ukrainian refugees
>They tell you you should contact your country embassy for help
>The shithole you came from is too much of a shithole to even have a proper embassy
>Pull the racist card in a last desperate attempt at getting preferential treatment
You get what you fucking deserve
 
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Granate37 said:
My guess is that Russian troops are FAR more disiplined when it comes to taking pictures as compared to Ukrainian civilians (and for the most part, Ukrainian civvies wont be taking pictures in areas where Russian forces are attacking, enganging in combat and advancing). And on top of that, even if Ukrainians do post it its likely to not end up in Russian circles. Personally I believe the Ukrainians are suffering much heavier losses than Russians on the ground, maybe 2-3 times as many. BUT even if these 6 (7?) abandoned Russian convoys are all of the convoys that have been abandoned (and they likely are) it still doesn't bode well. Why are they being abandoned? If supply and artillery convoys are coming under attack from Ukrainian troops to the point that they have to be abandoned, that's very serious. Though at least they may be able to recapture them later. Is there a president for this on other conflicts? Anything similar in ww2, or in Iraq and Egypt among Isreali and American forces?
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Vehicles being left abandoned usually are a result of a mechanical breakdown but it still doesn't explain why entire convoys are seemingly like that. Either way if they are abandoned or not, one must ask where did all the soldiers that were in them go?
 
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Breadbassket said:
Vehicles being left abandoned usually are a result of a mechanical breakdown but it still doesn't explain why entire convoys are seemingly like that. Either way if they are abandoned or not, one must ask where did all the soldiers that were in them go?
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The simplest explanation is that they advanced too far too fast, ran out of gas and decided to retreat rather than remain in the vehicles and be sitting ducks deep inside enemy territory.
 
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Granate37 said:
My guess is that Russian troops are FAR more disiplined when it comes to taking pictures
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gloating about dead locals when you are the invading force is not a good look. Whenever americans took pictures like that on Irak Michael Moore types would cream their pants and wouldn't stop copypasting everywhere
 
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Breadbassket said:
Vehicles being left abandoned usually are a result of a mechanical breakdown but it still doesn't explain why entire convoys are seemingly like that. Either way if they are abandoned or not, one must ask where did all the soldiers that were in them go?
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Its ukranian wendigypsies.


Also lol at the niggers running away as soon as the going gets rough.
Lots of people have said that migrants have no reason to love the countries they land into.
Like parasites as soon as you destroy their nest they run somewhere else.

There is a lot of schadendfreude in this situation,all the grandstanding and propaganda we have been fed does not hold up to the realities of the world.
 
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