Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

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He did it. The absolute madlad went for "the fillers that just make your face bigger" trick.

I am sure many have complained about this, but the absolute lunacy of surgeons who think they can feminize a male face by giving it neotenous features (or, the most neotenous features they can accomplish without drilling down so far they hit brain). Female = flattened childish snub noses, apparently. Never mind that caucasian women with strong features also tend to have noses with a high bridge, and shaving down a nose on a "strong" face just makes it look like the person ran into a wall.

What I think happened was, he had a consultation with the surgeon, they looked at a book of possible nose options (including normal, 'strong' female nosies appropriate to his facial structure). Toob squealed in delight, jabbed a thick man finger at the cutest, girliest, most pressable nose in the book and went 'that one, that one!'. And wouldn't be told otherwise.
 
1. Did Oi Lies! really travel to The States during the Omicron wave to get his face melted?

2. Linda Reilly has an interesting history of her own; from Private Eye circa 2018, the Kiwi OG (click image to see whole thing, you don't want to miss the Ripper stuff)
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Nostrils look totally different on each side! Hilarious. In the ‘cosy’ section of the video with the contra lighting and wallpaper, it looks sooo busted, legit a terrible nose job, like, it’s half done.

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Listened to the whole thing...and it's really boring.
Dude all of his videos are boring, he's a clone of ContraPoints without any of the soul (as much as I dislike Contra).
 
He did it. The absolute madlad went for "the fillers that just make your face bigger" trick.

I am sure many have complained about this, but the absolute lunacy of surgeons who think they can feminize a male face by giving it neotenous features (or, the most neotenous features they can accomplish without drilling down so far they hit brain). Female = flattened childish snub noses, apparently. Never mind that caucasian women with strong features also tend to have noses with a high bridge, and shaving down a nose on a "strong" face just makes it look like the person ran into a wall.
What I think happened was, he had a consultation with the surgeon, they looked at a book of possible nose options (including normal, 'strong' female nosies appropriate to his facial structure). Toob squealed in delight, jabbed a thick man finger at the cutest, girliest, most pressable nose in the book and went 'that one, that one!'. And wouldn't be told otherwise.
Tbh I'm not convinced that he went to a full on FFS surgeon. Can you imagine an FFS surgeon taking a gander at that great big hunk of granite face and deciding that — yes, the problem is the nose? Not that I rate the aesthetic judgment of FFS surgeons very highly, but this case is too obvious to miss. Of course they'd point at the jaw. It's his most prominent feature; it marks him undeniably as male. It makes negative sense to reduce the nose while leaving his jaw to soak up more light and focus. You could soften the nose and jaw together to keep the major contours of the face in harmony, but the nose alone? Absolutely not. It's a disastrous idea and any FFS surgeon worth their salt would not have put it on the table.

To me it looks like Olly decided from the jump that he wanted to do his nose and nothing else. (Maybe a little lip filler, but it's hard to tell around the makeup. If he got any other bone work done, it's super fucking invisible and had no effect on his facial movement patterns.) This was something he decided, not something he was advised to do at a consult. And there's no reason to go to an FFS surgeon who's experienced in performing multiple plastic surgeries at once if all you want at the end of the day is a rhinoplasty.

Of course, Olly does lots of things for no reason. He just flew all the way to America for a substandard nose job that he could have gotten anywhere in the world, in many places more cheaply. Why not sign up for an FFS consult, shoot down the surgeon's advice, and demand their services for a rhinoplasty anyway? An actual rhinoplasty specialist could maybe produce a more aesthetically pleasing result, but like... when has this man ever made choices that make sense.

I will say — while the nose is bad, I get why didn't want to shave his jaw. Seems he learned from Contra's mistake and decided not to risk his facial nerves. The problem is, as always, that he only learns from Contra's obvious mistakes, runs in the opposite direction, and in so doing makes mistakes of his own. If your nose and jaw are proportionally linked, and you can't fuck with your jaw, then don't fuck with your nose!! Jesus Christ it's so simple. But Olly has never understood proportion, harmony, balance, etc. as is crystal clear from his videos, so he thinks he's unlocked the secret to doing the surgery ritual without the harm. Well, he's now been harmed aesthetically, if not physically in the long term. Could have just evaded the ritual altogether, but that wouldn't be as affirmative and exciting.
 
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Sooooo choob takes viagra to fuck clair’s “vagina”?


Oh my god.

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The joke was terrible. Made no sense. No one is prescribing Viagra to an “Abigail Thorn” intending for the woman to feed it to her boyfriend. Like it’s a prescribed medication. NOT over the counter for purchase. It has a name on it. The pharmacist would see who it’s prescribed to, not assume that you’re tricking your doctor into giving you a script and feeding pills to someone else. For someone who supposedly cares so much about the healthcare system and whose parents are both MDs, I’d think the medical jokes would at minimum make sense
 
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So strange of him to say/imply HPV is a woman thing. Both sexes can get it and it causes penile, oral, throat and anal cancer in men. Especially since he considers himself progressive and some believe boys should be included in routine HPV immunizations too. It's that way in certain places, others don't bother. Instead of making a retarded, unfunny joke he could have advocated it for both sexes in his VACCINE video. He's so crude and sexist. Even his simps are starting to notice. Philosophy Chube indeed.
 
You unlock this door with a password to social media. Beyond it is another dimension; a dimension of sight, of sound, a dimension of images and words and pretentious video essays. A dimension of mind. Of things and ideas. Of things you've seen before but can't quite remember where. A land of images you wish you had never seen and now cannot escape, not even in your most pleasant dreams. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, but mostly shadow. You've just crossed over into....THE UNCANNY VALLEY-ZONE.

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Tbh I'm not convinced that he went to a full on FFS surgeon. Can you imagine an FFS surgeon taking a gander at that great big hunk of granite face and deciding that — yes, the problem is the nose? Not that I rate the aesthetic judgment of FFS surgeons very highly, but this case is too obvious to miss. Of course they'd point at the jaw. It's his most prominent feature; it marks him undeniably as male. It makes negative sense to reduce the nose while leaving his jaw to soak up more light and focus. You could soften the nose and jaw together to keep the major contours of the face in harmony, but the nose alone? Absolutely not. It's a disastrous idea and any FFS surgeon worth their salt would not have put it on the table.

To me it looks like Olly decided from the jump that he wanted to do his nose and nothing else. (Maybe a little lip filler, but it's hard to tell around the makeup. If he got any other bone work done, it's super fucking invisible and had no effect on his facial movement patterns.) This was something he decided, not something he was advised to do at a consult. And there's no reason to go to an FFS surgeon who's experienced in performing multiple plastic surgeries at once if all you want at the end of the day is a rhinoplasty.

Of course, Olly does lots of things for no reason. He just flew all the way to America for a substandard nose job that he could have gotten anywhere in the world, in many places more cheaply. Why not sign up for an FFS consult, shoot down the surgeon's advice, and demand their services for a rhinoplasty anyway? An actual rhinoplasty specialist could maybe produce a more aesthetically pleasing result, but like... when has this man ever made choices that make sense.

I will say — while the nose is bad, I get why didn't want to shave his jaw. Seems he learned from Contra's mistake and decided not to risk his facial nerves. The problem is, as always, that he only learns from Contra's obvious mistakes, runs in the opposite direction, and in so doing makes mistakes of his own. If your nose and jaw are proportionally linked, and you can't fuck with your jaw, then don't fuck with your nose!! Jesus Christ it's so simple. But Olly has never understood proportion, harmony, balance, etc. as is crystal clear from his videos, so he thinks he's unlocked the secret to doing the surgery ritual without the harm. Well, he's now been harmed aesthetically, if not physically in the long term. Could have just evaded the ritual altogether, but that wouldn't be as affirmative and exciting.

Oh hell yeah he got lip filler. The nearly if not fully identical upper and lower lips on his tiny little mouth are no bigger and no more feminine, but they do have that distinctive football-mouth shape.

So I do see that he got cheek implants/filler of some kind and that's changed the general shape of the contours of his face.

But are we 100% certain that he didn't shave the jaw at all? It looks in some shots like there's definitely something going on with the jaw. I just can't tell if it's any smaller or what because of those implants and because we've yet to see him next to a normal-sized human.

He went from looking like a 30 year old tranny to a 60 year old tranny, jesus christ.

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He looks like the lead singer of Supertramp here. Roger something. Not the 70s version, but the today version.
 
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Oh hell yeah he got lip filler. The nearly if not fully identical upper and lower lips on his tiny little mouth are no bigger and no more feminine, but they do have that distinctive football-mouth shape.

So I do see that he got cheeck implants/filler of some kind and that's changed the general shape of the contours of his face.

But are we 100% certain that he didnt shave the jaw at all? It looks in some shots like there's definitely something going on with the jaw. I just can't tell if it's any smaller or what because of those implants and because we've yet to see him next to a normal-sized human.
I don't know about the cheekbones. They've been gradually increasing in prominence throughout his transition, as he's lost weight and thinned out the fluff of his lower cheeks. Highlight and contour enhance them further. Plus he naturally gets very apple-cheeked when he engages his facial muscles, which is basically all the time.

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It's hard to find good comparison photos because he's always changing his makeup and contorting his face (and also because I can't stand to sit through every frame of his old videos again). He doesn't often give a ¾ view without some kind of grimace. And oh my God can we marvel again at how much more balanced he looked before — not that he was ever a great beauty, but at least he had a nose that emerged organically from his face.

If there's cheek filler involved in this, I'd assume he started before January and went about it conservatively. But it's hard to say when there are so many other factors (HRT, weight loss, aging, etc.) in the mix.

As for the jaw, he's always gotten that asymmetrical dimpling and popping of the muscles while engaged.

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He lost weight between these images. But the structures are similar throughout.

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Meanwhile on his own subreddit:

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Why does he always lie like this?
 
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