Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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Hackallier said:
Germany needs that Russian gas
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Russia produces Zyklon-B now? No wonder Germany refuses to quit.
Meat Target said:
Keep in mind, @Stoneheart is a shit-talking Kraut who probably thinks the G36 or G11 never had problems because muh HK Space Magic.
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Don't get me wrong, German stuff is halfway decent at least but Empress Merkel of Europe has been short-changing the Bundeswehr on supplies for a while because reasons.
 
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Sinner's Sandwich said:
YES, IT'S BECAUSE RUSSIA. It is our business because the rest of europe has to deal with ukrainian refugees. It is our business because Putin wants to rebuild the Russian Empire and that includes not just the Ukraine but also other european countries. He will not stop at Ukraine and who says he is going to stop once he has his fucking Russian empire? It's our business because Putin brought war back to europe. It's our business because Russia wants to overtake the second largest country in europe with over 40 million people living there. It is our buisness because Russia has nuclear weapons.

It is our fucking buisness.
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I liked the fairy tale about total invasion of Europe and Putin personally executing the last tranny hiding out in a lone shepherd's hut in Western Ireland more. I have quite a few "reasons" six feet under to not like 'em but this is balls to the wall Russophobia. Almost every fucker from permanent rainbow Facebook filter person to world famous Austrian painter aficionado I know is rooting for the Ukrainians now who are the equivalent of a Gopnik being dared to chug down a bottle of vodka, climb into the local zoo's bear pen and repeatedly kick the beast in the balls. Even nations who usually dislike them because they have minority populations in Ukraine that are treated as second class citizens. I can't find it anymore but some Polish female politician literally tweeted the equivalent of "Yeah, Ukraine massacred us by the bushels in WW2 and never apologized for it but we hate Russia more" and it's getting retarded.
 
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Strix454 said:
Well. I disagree.

The Russians concerns about Ukraine joining NATO were legitimate and their concerns about US intentions are also valid. But
having those problems doesn't make what Putin did a good solution.

Imposing a government by force or Ukraine doesn't change things. It just resets the clock on the problem. Because Russia is
going to sustain any government it imposes on Ukraine by a combination of force and money. And sooner or later the
will to maintain the situation will go away. Ukraine will re-gain its independence and Russia will be faced with exactly
the same problems again.

The best outcome for everyone in the situation would have been an informal agreement to kick the can down the road
again on Ukraine joining the EU or NATO.
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This is a good-enough solution for Putin because he probably doesn't give a rats ass what happens to Ukraine, Russia, or the world after he kicks it. If it lets him ride the bull for five more years before he tragically and mysteriously chokes on his vodka, it worked.
 
Granate37 said:
The Russian airforce doesn't have installed on their aircraft the tachyon ultra-frequency subspace laser emitters that allows them to automatically disable all electrical devices in a 100km radius.
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Alternatively Russia isn't actually after a complete destruction of Ukraine's infrastructure since they went there to conquer not annihilate.
 
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Borscht said:
Because America has just demonstrated that it can ruin your financial institutions as it sees fit. Should give food for thought to countries that entertain the idea of being independent.
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And Russia has shown it can ruin your sovereignty by invading you and killing your people. More food for thought from that rather than agreed upon sanctions.
 
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Strix454 said:
Well. I disagree.

The Russians concerns about Ukraine joining NATO were legitimate and their concerns about US intentions are also valid. But
having those problems doesn't make what Putin did a good solution.

Imposing a government by force or Ukraine doesn't change things. It just resets the clock on the problem. Because Russia is
going to sustain any government it imposes on Ukraine by a combination of force and money. And sooner or later the
will to maintain the situation will go away. Ukraine will re-gain its independence and Russia will be faced with exactly
the same problems again.

The best outcome for everyone in the situation would have been an informal agreement to kick the can down the road
again on Ukraine joining the EU or NATO.
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I think there is a much simpler solution to the problem.



Putin dreaming about that Black Clay
 
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JUST IN: The Biden administration just announced a Transatlantic task force to “hunt down and freeze the assets” of Russian companies and oligarchs — including “yachts, mansions, and any other ill-gotten gains that we can find and freeze.”

— No Lie with Brian Tyler Cohen (@NoLieWithBTC)February 26, 2022
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this sounds autistic
 
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Prophetic Spirit said:
At this point, i don't know what's worse; the people cheering up from the far distance, the red army using obsolete tecnology or the overspreading of fake news of both sides.
Guys, if you gonna ask me which is my side in this, is neither.
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"I don't care if Russia is committing war crimes, I think we should all be pretty neutral, it's not our war."

While I get one may desire to appear neutral out of fear for being wrong, you can't actually be so blind as to say the country invading and trying to take over another country with force and lies, no matter how many civilians get caught up in it, is acting in any kind of grace.
 
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