Skitzocow Kindness / Alyssa Jo Frauens / @KindKinkster / AJ Frauens / Stella Lawrence / Zion Stellar and Paul Mendoza / Bonnie Nelson / @BonnieMakes - LF BPD munchie furry dogsitter to pee in bathtub and eat all my food, inquire inside, hourly rates

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With the amount of powerleveling you're throwing around, you might as well make a thread for yourself on proving grounds.
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MetalParakeet said:
Imagine coming here and bragging about being more exceptional than fucking Bonnie, of all people.

Can't wait to see him powerlevel in Louis and staphs thread about how he's done more heartless grifts or masturbated harder to ghost Jeffrey Dahmer.


Anyway, look at this horrific shit
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Keep sweettalkin' me and we'll see what happens.
 
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MetalParakeet said:
Here's the problem: you keep attributing it to her BPD.

Yes she's BPD but she's also bipolar. She's even said she's bipolar. She's clearly manic and thats why she's horny posting for 12 hours. Her hypersexuality isn't being caused by her BPD, like you keep incessantly repeating
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Horny posting on twitter for 12 hours from a bipolar manic phase, I'm just not seeing that either. Again, I've never worked in a sped zoo, but I have seen a few legit manic phases in my time. The manic phases I've seen aren't anything like.. obsessive? They wanna go shop here or go do that, "LET'S FLY TO FRANCE!" sorta thing, feeling invincible and no cares for the future, very DTF as well. In my few observations, they weren't capable of sitting and staring at a computer or phone screen for 12 hours, they were feeling too full of life. They might start writing a book or screenplay or something, but not for 12 hours. Not saying that can't happen, it just seems a lot less likely than meth.

Before her temporary absence, she quit what would've been a pretty sweet gig for someone of her few "talents" and meager professional stature. Then she tried moving to the Tranch, then she got kicked out with Paul, visited her mom (I think?) and then went dark. All these things appeared to be just her whims at those moments. If I've got any of this wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know.

What I suspect was happening is she realized she was spiraling, she knew either Paul or herself would need to get a job very quickly and some jobs require drug tests. It became time to quit for a bit while she tried rebuilding her life a little.

The thing about the meth cycle is that they aren't always horny all the time. When they haven't had meth for a while and then get some in their system, that's when they're the horniest for the longest time, like a whole day. There's some sort of gay subculture where gay dudes will rent a hotel room and have meth fueled orgies, called something like p4p or p2p, I don't recall exactly. Some of them don't really use meth until these events because it makes it more powerful if you don't do it often.

The other meth girl that Alyssa strongly reminds me of didn't use twitter. Instead she'd spend hours playing games on her phone, maybe watching porn. Reading and arts and crafts were also big with her. It's as though they get "stuck" doing something like a mini project or staring at a screen for many hours straight, like their mind has become trapped in some sorta loop. Playing phone games, tweeting for hours on end, one woman got stuck doing her makeup for 12 hours straight, trying to get it perfect. The makeup job looked terrible. No manic phases that I've ever seen were like that. Staring at a screen for 12 hours, because it's the only thing you want to do for that entire time, is much more aligned with amphetamine abuse ime.

Consider this. Out of all the people that you've ever known who were taking adderall regularly, how many of them announced it as publicly and as often as she has? Most seem to avoid mentioning it, ime. Sure she's histrionic, but she's just trying to head off any meth abuse accusations/questions and you guys are falling for it, imo. No, I don't know anything for sure either, but why would you trust anything that she says in the first place? Fuck whatever she says, she's just creating her fictional little narrative, but the narrative she's trying to get you to believe will point to the truth. She doesn't have alters, she just wants attention and wants to feel special. She isn't using adderall, she just knows meth isn't exactly socially acceptable. Behavior always tells the truth, while addicts/people in general tend to lie about all sorts of shit for all sorts of reasons.

How probable do you think it is that she's managed to acquire just the right mental illnesses, at just the right balance, to behave exactly like a meth addict when she takes adderall? Is that more probable than something more simple like.. maybe she's just a meth addict that doesn't want everyone to know it?

Anyone wanna make a friendly bet with me? I'll be betting she's on meth while you'll be betting she's being honest about that adderall. There might never be a winner, we may never know for sure either way. I think we will know though, eventually. Couple months isn't a very long clean period. The longer it goes on, the harder it'll become to hide, the more obvious it'll become. She might still have a chance if she stops asap and never picks it up again. Meth brains will heal, but it's a slow process and she'll be very sad, depressed and bored before it does. Smoking that bowl is just so much easier.

I can't wait to see what happens next.
 
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She seems to have reduced horny posting after tapering off painkillers and going back to regular crazy posting Screenshot_20220227_032649.jpg
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But still manic and starting new projects!!
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Headmates played some Pokemon
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More headmates and Boner
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And maybe some Kiwi commentary
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Most convenient for Kindness is that by being a troon (and a part of the tranch) before they even met, Bonnie already gaslit himself into thinking polyamorous relationships where your partner consensually cheats on you are cool, so it saved Kindness the effort of having to do the gaslighting herself.
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Bonbon use to be listed as a one of Kevin's partners
 
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Wonder how many poor little rodents are left at this point. Maybe her bird or foxsona is secretly eating them. 🤔
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I bet her freezer is filled with them by now. Rats unfortunately have a very short lifespan and it can be extended with lots of trips to the vet but they die very fast. I really don't think she's taking them to the vet and one person here said one showed signs of pain. They're probably dying without any medical care.(:_(
 
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MetalParakeet said:
Imagine coming here and bragging about being more exceptional than fucking Bonnie, of all people.

Can't wait to see him powerlevel in Louis and staphs thread about how he's done more heartless grifts or masturbated harder to ghost Jeffrey Dahmer.


Anyway, look at this horrific shit
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I think it's the fact she's using a smart phone that's making her look particularly awful in this. Smart phones have wider lenses, so any closeups look terrible and distort your face.

That said, have this.

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(I originally started making this to copy that "fish eye lens" soyjack and then I got distracted.)
 
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I’m imagining Paul flopped on the couch, gut hanging out, beer in hand, watching some manly show on tv, Alyssa rambling in the background. Occasionally he mumbles “Mhm, and then what? Yep. That’s crazy.” Absentmindedly replying while wondering how he managed to get dethroned from the tranch and stuck with a robot baby.
 
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Horny posting on twitter for 12 hours from a bipolar manic phase, I'm just not seeing that either. Again, I've never worked in a sped zoo, but I have seen a few legit manic phases in my time. The manic phases I've seen aren't anything like.. obsessive? They wanna go shop here or go do that, "LET'S FLY TO FRANCE!" sorta thing, feeling invincible and no cares for the future, very DTF as well. In my few observations, they weren't capable of sitting and staring at a computer or phone screen for 12 hours, they were feeling too full of life. They might start writing a book or screenplay or something, but not for 12 hours. Not saying that can't happen, it just seems a lot less likely than meth.

Before her temporary absence, she quit what would've been a pretty sweet gig for someone of her few "talents" and meager professional stature. Then she tried moving to the Tranch, then she got kicked out with Paul, visited her mom (I think?) and then went dark. All these things appeared to be just her whims at those moments. If I've got any of this wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know.

What I suspect was happening is she realized she was spiraling, she knew either Paul or herself would need to get a job very quickly and some jobs require drug tests. It became time to quit for a bit while she tried rebuilding her life a little.

The thing about the meth cycle is that they aren't always horny all the time. When they haven't had meth for a while and then get some in their system, that's when they're the horniest for the longest time, like a whole day. There's some sort of gay subculture where gay dudes will rent a hotel room and have meth fueled orgies, called something like p4p or p2p, I don't recall exactly. Some of them don't really use meth until these events because it makes it more powerful if you don't do it often.

The other meth girl that Alyssa strongly reminds me of didn't use twitter. Instead she'd spend hours playing games on her phone, maybe watching porn. Reading and arts and crafts were also big with her. It's as though they get "stuck" doing something like a mini project or staring at a screen for many hours straight, like their mind has become trapped in some sorta loop. Playing phone games, tweeting for hours on end, one woman got stuck doing her makeup for 12 hours straight, trying to get it perfect. The makeup job looked terrible. No manic phases that I've ever seen were like that. Staring at a screen for 12 hours, because it's the only thing you want to do for that entire time, is much more aligned with amphetamine abuse ime.

Consider this. Out of all the people that you've ever known who were taking adderall regularly, how many of them announced it as publicly and as often as she has? Most seem to avoid mentioning it, ime. Sure she's histrionic, but she's just trying to head off any meth abuse accusations/questions and you guys are falling for it, imo. No, I don't know anything for sure either, but why would you trust anything that she says in the first place? Fuck whatever she says, she's just creating her fictional little narrative, but the narrative she's trying to get you to believe will point to the truth. She doesn't have alters, she just wants attention and wants to feel special. She isn't using adderall, she just knows meth isn't exactly socially acceptable. Behavior always tells the truth, while addicts/people in general tend to lie about all sorts of shit for all sorts of reasons.

How probable do you think it is that she's managed to acquire just the right mental illnesses, at just the right balance, to behave exactly like a meth addict when she takes adderall? Is that more probable than something more simple like.. maybe she's just a meth addict that doesn't want everyone to know it?

Anyone wanna make a friendly bet with me? I'll be betting she's on meth while you'll be betting she's being honest about that adderall. There might never be a winner, we may never know for sure either way. I think we will know though, eventually. Couple months isn't a very long clean period. The longer it goes on, the harder it'll become to hide, the more obvious it'll become. She might still have a chance if she stops asap and never picks it up again. Meth brains will heal, but it's a slow process and she'll be very sad, depressed and bored before it does. Smoking that bowl is just so much easier.

I can't wait to see what happens next.
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I suppose I'm not sure why you have the impression there's that monumental a difference between adderall (a combination of ~25% levoamphetamine and ~75% dextroamphetamine salts) and meth (dextromethamphetamine). It's true that adderall isn't "one molecule away" from meth because that's gibberish, however dextroamphetamine is only a single carbon and a few hydrogen atoms away from meth.

You made the comparison to heroin before, and probably like heroin the reason people wind up turning to it isn't because it's really that much more preferable than the prescription shit, but it happens to be the cheapest and most readily available, which meth is because it's processed extremely easily from pseudoephedrine through a simple reduction reaction. There are a few other draws to meth abuse vs. adderall, as you stated it does cross the BBB more easily which means there's a fairly intense rush from injecting and snorting it and it can be vaporized, but amphetamines are amphetamines. Aside from slightly elevated seratogenic effects and a bit more dopamine release the difference isn't all that significant.

The reason the doctor would continually refill it is because amphetamines aren't guarded the same way opiates are. In a lot of cases a person legit just calls into their doctor once a month and says "Hey I need to order a refill", then they go pick it up from the pharmacy. They're only back maybe once a year for a checkup, especially if they're a longer term patient.

I think it's possible you're confusing the symptoms of more advanced amphetamine addiction (which naturally graduates to meth due to availability) for differences between meth and dextroamphetamine, which is again mostly what adderall is.

But I'm getting lost in the rough here. You might be right, she could very well be using meth, but if she was it seems pretty likely she's getting an adderall script then buying meth when she runs out, it's not like she has to be doing one or the other.

I can't pretend to be an expert on bipolar, but I agree she acts really nuts really often even for bipolar 1.
Just from a cursory search google tells me people with bipolar cycle about 3 times a year, and unless I'm mistaken she has not shown any sense of normalcy since the start of this thread.

Plus wasn't she normal-ish up until a few years back? Why hasn't she been insane to the point of being non-functional the rest of her life? People don't develop extremely severe BP and personality disorders as 29 year olds, but they do develop substance abuse disorders.

I just feel like there's no way she's organically this crazy. There are tons of BPD addled whores on the farms and they don't act this fucking disgusting and manic without chemical help. They're nuts, but they ain't this nuts.
 
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Dermatologist: Let's see... you could lay off the testosterone gel for a bit.

Alyssa: No

Derm: Okay, well, it could be time to review your Adderall prescription next time you see your prescriber, emphasize you're having distressing skin issues and we can work with them on our end.

Alyssa: No

Derm: Hm, moving on then. When was your last STD testing?

Alyssa: Don't sex shame me or my Sengalese Lawyer will front and sue, I'm not even kidding I have no control over it. haha quirky, right?

Derm: ... Well, let's review your dietary habits again-

Alyssa: NO, I already SAID that me and my fae nesting partner are in poverty, always starving. I TOLD you we live off the assholes from all the regional the food banks and order out when we don't like what we got. Capitalism has forced us to eat garbage and this can not change. Next.

Derm: Okay, well. Um, consider daily showering with a sensitive skin body wash and mild facial cleanser.

Alyssa: No I already take bath soaks, probably for 2+ hours a day

Derm: Ah. I recommend you not do this.

Alyssa: No

[later on twitter]

FUCKING useless dermatologist didn't do a damn thing, my cystic acne and mystery rash ans scabbing just keep spreading and oozing and I'm itchy... Fuck their three fitty bill. Dr. Paul Mendoza M.D. can cure anything with that dick [except my horniness]!
 
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MetalParakeet said:
@super thug

I'll take the bet because I've worked with both meth users AND bipolar BPD chick's, and I don't agree that she's acting like a meth head.

I've seen a bipolar dude in a manic phase stay up for a solid three days just to masturbate. Like the whole. Damn. Time. Thought he was gonna rip that thing off.
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I don't know, fam. Normally legit manic people aren't like that though, right? That's more of an outlier event, I take it?

All the people, not just you, saying they've "seen it before" but I'm the only one picking up on this? I mean just look at this picture:

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Automatically your brain is telling you "there's something wrong with this person" at first glance, and that could be mental illness too, it gets the same reptilian brain response. Look at the color of her skin, the grayness, the pallor. Not just the skin on her face, but also the skin lower on her body. Maybe it's bad lighting? Look at the muscles in her face, the lines in her skin. Her cheeks, her nose, the bottom of her chin. It's like her parted lips are sitting just a little too high, her whole face being mostly pulled upwards. The rat is obviously tickling her, I get that, but it's just too much facial tension, imo. Look at how dry her lips are. Look at the popped zit healing on her nose.

You can explain each little thing away as something else, sure. Doesn't that feel a bit like we're doing some mental gymnastics though? Especially when there's one very simple explanation that covers it all at the same time?

She may never publicly admit to meth abuse, so what criteria can we use instead? How obvious does it have to become before we can consider it my win :) ? Also, we'd never be able to prove a negative (your win) so would it just have to be when one of us can no longer deny the other person is right?
 
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