Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[76LD910]

Can we please stop preventing people from giving other people money? The "unbanking" shit is getting old. Just ask Null.

Those are two completely different issues.

Legislation preventing financial institutions from discriminating against lawful citizens (the only thing that could realistically help Null) in their jurisdiction is one thing, but your dreaming if you think any government anywhere would apply the same protections to citizens of foreign nations.

The Russian government isn't taking money via paypal. Normal little people who are doing business on Ebay are.

Fuck that, if we're not stopping them militarily than the only way Russia's behavior will be curbed is by hurting normal Russians otherwise any economic sanctions are pointless.

I don't buy this "average Russians don't support the government" shit. I've seen way to many streamers/youtubers (who are far more left-wing than the general public) living in conditions that are what you'd expect in any developed western nation say neutral shit like "I'm soooo sad about whats happening in Ukraine" without one iota of criticism of their governments actions, as if the Russian military just accidentally stumbled into Ukraine and they didn't just spend over a month lying to the entire world about "exercises", just like 2014.

If they want to act like they can't so much as express a political opinion as if they live in Soviet Russia, let them live like they were in Soviet Russia or as near to it as possible. Consoomer mentality born out of overabundance isn't limited to the west, let them live like Null for a while and maybe they'll take their supposed liberal inclinations more seriously.

 

[Meat Target]

Missile strike in Odessa this morning.
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The barking puppy in the midst of all that gives me more feels than the people who are gonna die.

Inb4 heckin doggerino redditor retorts.

 

[The 3rd Hooligan]

If there's anything I want to see come of this war Paypal being blocked in Russia is near the top. Either by unilateral decision like this (not impossible considering some of the other companies who've done it) or via sanctions.

We'd need a whole thread in either happenings or community watch to track the shitstorm that would cause.

You do realise there are civvies in russia right?

Ones that putin wouldnt give a fuck about in any case. That just want this shit to be over? Im sorry but this feels the same like the twatter asking all wrongthinkers be cut off.
Priority in sanctions should be Putin and Oligarchs. Not old babushkas and every already struggling non combatant adult

 

[Shrek]

You do realise there are civvies in russia right?

Ones that putin wouldnt give a fuck about in any case. That just want this shit to be over? Im sorry but this feels the same like the twatter asking all wrongthinkers be cut off.
Priority in sanctions should be Putin and Oligarchs. Not old babushkas and every already struggling non combatant adult

Slowly starting to agree with my rabid anti american commie friend that literally all sanctions do is fuck poor people

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

Have you tried googling "ussr map"? The vast majority of it literally just got renamed to "Russia".

No wonder americans still see KGB everywhere...

The countries that were forcefully occupied by USSR got their freedom back and some joined NATO to prevent Russia from occupying them again

I've got bad news for you - most of those countries didn't exist at all and were parts of Russian Empire. The creation of USSR has given them borders and some autonomy, I am not even talking about means of production, education and other stuff that defines civilizations. It's debatable if it was good thing or not, if you look at what they used their autonomy for after the collapse of USSR, but still.

 

[Meat Target]

You do realise there are civvies in russia right?

Ones that putin wouldnt give a fuck about in any case. That just want this shit to be over? Im sorry but this feels the same like the twatter asking all wrongthinkers be cut off.
Priority in sanctions should be Putin and Oligarchs. Not old babushkas and every already struggling non combatant adult

>expecting nuance
>in a world literally ruled by the oxygen thieves who use twitter and think it's real life

 

[milk]

Spoiler: #PutinIsHitler

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I cringe every time I see people do the hitler comparisons for any figure they don't like, putin or otherwise.

 

[The best and greatest]

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Good foresight but my boy is wrong on one count:

It is absolutely in our interest for Russia to get bogged down in a Ukraine conflict that taxes their resources, gives us a reason to restrict their economic activity and further destabilizes their society. This is in our interest if you come to the equation with the perspective that Russia is a rival-enemy of our country and that we should look for every viable opportunity to wipe our dicks in their faces and to further cement our place above them.

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

 

[Kane Lives]

Slowly starting to agree with my rabid anti american commie friend that literally all sanctions do is fuck poor people

Remember, sanctions didn't topple Saddam Hussein. Dubya's boot right on the face did. All it did, however, was keep the average Iraqi poor and wallowing in poverty while the Iraqi elite sat pretty (sounds familiar?)

 

[ItCouldBeWorse]

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The absolute state of journos

 

[Hackallier]

This meme, which was originally meant to be a joke about 18-60 year old men not being allowed to leave, fits even better now that Poland is reportedly trying to refuse niggers.

 

[AnaphylacticShock]

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"Just trust us."

 

[Hackallier]

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Journos aren't human.

 

[BradCarter]

Those are two completely different issues.

Legislation preventing financial institutions from discriminating against lawful citizens (the only thing that could realistically help Null) in their jurisdiction is one thing, but your dreaming if you think any government anywhere would apply the same protections to citizens of foreign nations.



Fuck that, if we're not stopping them militarily than the only way Russia's behavior will be curbed is by hurting normal Russians otherwise any economic sanctions are pointless.

I don't buy this "average Russians don't support the government" shit. I've seen way to many streamers/youtubers (who are far more left-wing than the general public) living in conditions that are what you'd expect in any developed western nation say neutral shit like "I'm soooo sad about whats happening in Ukraine" without one iota of criticism of their governments actions, as if the Russian military just accidentally stumbled into Ukraine and they didn't just spend over a month lying to the entire world about "exercises", just like 2014.

If they want to act like they can't so much as express a political opinion as if they live in Soviet Russia, let them live like they were in Soviet Russia or as near to it as possible. Consoomer mentality born out of overabundance isn't limited to the west, let them live like Null for a while and maybe they'll take their supposed liberal inclinations more seriously.

What the fuck are you smoking? Because a few streamers aren't being vocal you somehow know the sentiment of the Russian people? Im talking to my Russians friends. На русский. They have no idea why this is happening or exactly what is happening. Most have friends in Ukraine and are worried about what's going on. Russia isn't a country that you get to openly criticize and question the government. So yea, all those streamers you watch probably don't want to broadcast themselves making anti-government sentiment if they are even informed enough to formulate a stance.

 

[verissimus]

It's worth mentioning that this crisis has caused the total and complete abandonment of all Covid narratives in the press. Seeing these clips in Ukraine we see countless superspreader events all over. Covid is finished, it's in the dustbin of history, and it will only make a comeback when a new variant emerges right before the Democrats need to ban Trump rallies or something.

What other way to end one "crisis" but to jump to the next.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Pro Russian spooks since Friday in a nutshell.

Why isn't Ukraine surrendering? They are Just gonna get civilians killed!!!! Telling people to die defending their country is gay!!!

 

[Eddie Bravo]

Spoiler: #FreeUkraine

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#DicksOutForUkraine

 

[Second Sun]

Saying the average ruskie is gulity for Putin's actions is like saying globohomo is the fault of you and I. Ordinary people are always shafted by the powers that be.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Remember, sanctions didn't topple Saddam Hussein. Dubya's boot right on the face did. All it did, however, was keep the average Iraqi poor and wallowing in poverty while the Iraqi elite sat pretty (sounds familiar?)

BUT BUT BUT SANCTIONS TOTALLY WORKED WHICH IS WHY SADDAM'S MEN DIDN'T HAVE GAS FOR THEIR TANKS OR BULLETS AND THEY COULDN'T BUILD A ROBOTECH MECH!

Fuck, I want to slap every fucking faggot who says shit like that.

It goes:

Elite
Elite Trusted Military Units
Military
Workers
People

The top two NEVER get hit by the sanctions.

All sanctions do is make it so the people in the country have nothing to lose and might start thinking "You know, killing these assholes putting the sanctions on us just might work."