Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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Granate37 said:
The nuke threats are implied to be against whatever country intervenes.
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which would be stupid on russias part because its literally mutually assured destruction, as far as I am aware that policy hasn't changed, so unless if putin is ready to nuke the entire western part of europe it would mean those countries will go ahead and fire back nukes in retalation,. it woyldn't be just one country but all the countries.
 
Gender: Xenomorph said:
From what I hear, there's no way Ukraine will win this war.

But Russia is taking a whole lot more causalities than they expected and Putin is losing popularity.

Even if they do win, this war was not worth it.
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It's more akin to the Hungarian resistance of 1956 rather than a war.

The outcome for the Ukraine is inevitable, however for Russia their projections of the cost of this war may be off and they may rue the act in the medium and short term.

Someone needs to make the choice for Germany, Italy and Hungary plain as day and blow to hell the extant pipeline being used and we can cut the fucking chase and get to the point of all this rather than dragging it out for years:

A conventional war with Russia with the threat (but no actual execution of) nuclear war.
 
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Niggaplease said:
which would be stupid on russias part because its literally mutually assured destruction, as far as I am aware that policy hasn't changed, so unless if putin is ready to nuke the entire western part of europe it would mean those countries will go ahead and fire back nukes in retalation,.
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Europe doesn't have nukes.

WTF are you talking about?
 
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Gender: Xenomorph said:
From what I hear, there's no way Ukraine will win this war.

But Russia is taking a whole lot more causalities than they expected and Putin is losing popularity.

Even if they do win, this war was not worth it.
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I think Putin is a coomer. He could have just rolled troops into contested regions and sat there while the world wags their fingers and goes “nu uh uuuhh naughty Putin”, then the world will stop caring after a week sans the occasional “it’s still part of Ukraine guise” but he had to COOOOM and went harder. His coom addled dopamine receptors couldn’t handle it and he needed more action so he could coom better.
 
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Both sides want the fighting to stop for obvious reasons now

Ukraine because it can't hold out much longer

Russia because everything outside Ukraine has turned to shit for it

Zelensky saying he won't make any territorial concessions is obvious bullshit though... DPR and LPR are gone, out to the line of territory they want to claim which is about double the size of the territory they controlled before Russia invaded. The front lines were literally right outside Luhansk and Donetsk. The new border between Russia and Ukraine is gonna be well to the west of that

Dunno if Putin is gonna get his Ukraine you must demilitarize demand though... even if Ukraine agrees they both know all those Western weapons are gonna keep coming in and they sure as fuck aren't gonna get surrendered and the chance of Russian inspectors or something being agreed to or being effective is about nil
 
Sargon's wife's son said:
Daily reminder tanks only went about 15 to 30 miles an hour instead of the current speed of a tank which is about up to 90 miles an hour and the comparisons between WWII and invasion of Ukraine or completely ridiculous.
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Pretty sure tanks don't drive anywhere close to 90 mph even today. :story:

It is however true that we can't make any meaningful comparisons to the German/Soviet invasion of Poland in WW2 and this invasion. It's a completely different technological paradigm.

Germany in WW2 wasn't anywhere near as mechanised as most people imagine. A major portion of their logistics were dependant on horses. Russia has it a lot easier now in the sense that they are fully mechanised and steady supply of domestically produced fuel, plus the famously easily traversed terrain of Ukraine. But there's so many other factors involved we can't just compare rate of advance to a prior conflict 80 years old and determine the attacking side is stalling because it moves less fast than WW2 germany.
 
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My Earnest Opinions said:
Here's the thing; we don't know exactly how many casualties Russia is having. I don't see this being a cakewalk for Russia but at the same time it's certain that mainstream media propaganda is hyping the hell out of Ukraine's performance.
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I've noticed they only seem to be showing footage and pictures from the northern part but not covering too much from the south which tells me the southern areas aren't going well for Ukraine.
 
WinchesterPremium said:
.2 Rubble has been deposited into your account comrade.
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>Look at those six gorrilian aircraft shot down by the ghost of Ukraine
>LMAO THOSE RUSSKIE PARATROOPERS DROPPED IN TO THE SEA AND DIED
>That was a Russian BMP that ran over a guy in the middle of Kyiv which we currently control
>Those brave snake island defenders bravely sacrificed their lives
>The brave Ukrainians have repled the Russian airborne assault on our airfield
>Look at the hot Ukrainian women soldiers
>That was a Russian missile, no wait it was a Russian plane we shot down, oh fuck it, yes it was our plane which crashed into that building
>Where is your help, #Europe & @NATO? Close the sky over #Ukraine! Include russia from the @UN Security Council!@POTUS@eucopresident @vonderleyen@Europarl_EN #StopPutin #StopRussia
>Those women and children, and that guy we shot were all saboteurs
Clearly, anyone not on board with Ukraine must be a Russian shill
 
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Niggaplease said:
which would be stupid on russias part because its literally mutually assured destruction, as far as I am aware that policy hasn't changed, so unless if putin is ready to nuke the entire western part of europe it would mean those countries will go ahead and fire back nukes in retalation,. it woyldn't be just one country but all the countries.
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He's not gonna actually nuke anyone. Nuke deterrent is like blackmail, while he has that threat over everyone else (and they do on him as well) he would rather have a strong bargaining position while alive.
 
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TheSockiestSock said:
Russia is literally suffering at 69:1 k:d ratio source: dude, trust me
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Bruh I heard the k:d ratio was actually 420:69... The Blunt-Roller of Kiev and all those thots in uniform ph33r3d by the Russians so bad...
 
Menotaur said:
A conventional war with Russia with the threat (but no actual execution of) nuclear war.
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Putin isn't gonna give them the benefit of the doubt. He does not want the west to intervene. China will most probably join in in case that happens, they do not want Nato seeping closer
 
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