Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[76LD910]

(you)

Deploying tactical nukes with all the personal required to gaurd/man them is not the same as strategic nukes capable of hitting a target halfway around the world that can be maintained on your own territory.

We can keep massive stockpiles at home now, it wasn't so much the case with Russia back then.

That also took place before people got overly optimistic about ABM defenses followed by the development of MIRV's.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

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[Gay_nig_from_outer_space]

The way ukraine was acting by trusting the us was retarded, true, so? I don't see how it's right to support an invasion like this ever, russia is acting as much as a nigger as the us did in iraq, I don't support imperialism ever even if it annoys people I dislike.

Zelensky was such a flippant retard that he raised the idea of Ukraine having a nuclear weapons program or getting American/French/British nuclear weapons stationed in Ukraine. This is after he nearly caused an earlier invasion by massing Ukrainian troops on the Donbas contact line and stalling on the implementation of Minsk II. The invasion is his fault, and comparing this to "WMD's in Iraq" is a huge stretch.
>Well Putler just shouldn't have invaded!
Hey, if that's your opinion that's fine, but if I were Russia's leader I would have done the same thing, as would any American or major world leader in the same kind of scenario. You don't threaten military force and antagonize a nation many times stronger than you without being able to back those threats up. Egypt, Syria and Jordan learned that lesson the very hard way in six days in 1967.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Senior advisor in EU parliament says fighter jets for Ukraine will be in the sky within the hour. Support is arriving at an astonishing speed.pic.twitter.com/RPLIJwZJ4C

— Richard Hall (@_RichardHall)February 27, 2022

 

[RedDelicious]

I'm worried to fuckign death this is gonna spiral into world ending shit. My shit posting/russia stan shit is mostly just because I gotta do something or i'm gonna lose my shit and why wouldn't i choose the side opposite the one that wants me, my kids, and my entire way of life wiped off the face of the planet.

How little self awareness is required to say you're supporting the side that doesn't want to wipe you off the face of the planet when that same side explicitly stated they are ready to burn this whole bitch down to increase their oil and NG returns?

 

[Shidoen]

Polish claws clacked this post without a hint of self-awareness.

Seriously who makes these comics it's driving me insane trying to find a source.

 

[derpherp2]

ZOGbot malfuctioning.
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https://twitter.com/joshclem12/with_replies

They really don't get how propaganda involving some retired vet doing shit works.
They need actual press coverage of the guy. Not some random bot posting shit every.... minute? Goddamn.

Thank god he's retired I guess, tiktok messages require marine core training to post on the minute. He must've gotten purple heart or whatever dumb shit getting carpel tunnel. Ooorah.

 

[No. 7 cat]

source

Honestly unsure of most footage now, given the grifters and the old images (like Zelenskyy in military uniform) posted as current. Maybe this is what it says it is.

 

[Matt Damon]

Yeah during the Cuban missile crisis the USSR had a total of 8 or 10 ICBMs,

The majority of the Cold War (particularly the beginning) was the US terrified of its own shadow and the USSR bluffing that they had fuck-all actual nuclear capacity.

American projections of Russian military capability were consistently an order of magnitude or more greater than what they were.

 

[No_one]

Video showing supposedly captured Ukrainians also shows members of those who defended Snake Island
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That's the thing that hits me. Everyone is manifesting for Ukraine, changing their profile pic to Ukrainian flag and all that.

But these guys have mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, girlfriends, wives, friends and colleagues. Real people.

And regardless of the outcome of the war, all of them would probably wish to see them alive, not as coffins with some medal.

Edit: Most people here in Poland would call me a traitor for writing this, and would say I should be "lynched" (direct quote).
Wars suck and everyone loses. Don't be a retard, and don't support it.

 

[Breadbassket]

A post from r/Russia: "My dear Anglo-Saxons, here's a mirror"

 

[Richardface]

Maybe STAVKA should have devoted more time to playing HOI4?

Dmitri Alperovitch (@DAlperovitch)

Most military analysts are completely bewildered by Russian invasion strategy Despite mobilizing a huge force with overwhelming advantage in fires, airpower, ground forces, EW, etc…they decided not to use most of them and instead engage in suicidal small unit fights

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[Samir Al Hajeed]

The invasion is his fault, and comparing this to "WMD's in Iraq" is a huge stretch.

you literally complained about "WMD's in ukraine" two sentences before

 

[doesnotglow]

Have you guys heard of the legend of the Neckbeard of Kyiv?

He spends 8 hours per day calling Russian girls whores on instagram, 4 hours scambaiting Russian mail order brides, 4 hours posting humiliating tracksuit pictures of gopniks on vk.com, 4 hours per day catfishing on Russian tinder, and 4 hours feeding mid in Russian dota games. Legend has it he weights 320 and doesn't need to sleep.

 

[Savryc]

A post from r/Russia: "My dear Anglo-Saxons, here's a mirror"
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Who taught this snow nigger to read? Isn't that illegal?

 

[Richardface]

Gas could be $10/gallon and I wouldn't give up my v8
Sunoco 110 leaded is 9.99 at my local track. I would just run that and turn up the boost.

They can take my 455cid out of my cold dead hands

 

[Screamer]

Really thought I had a handle on this shit but the willingness of the West to shut down Russian assets and encourage opposition (the shutdown of air traffic and veritable elimination of SWIFT as the defacto financial arm) now has has me concerned. All it's going to take now is one Russian attack (including supposed cyberattack because fuck those in charge) on a NATO position and this whole thing becomes WW3. Too many damn neocons wishing for war that they may actually achieve it because they've forced Russia to defend its red line.

All this latest bout has ensured is that the next few decades are going to be miserable at best for the vast majority of the world's average citizenry.

The weaponising of the financial system seems like such a colossal fuck up. It seems like it's literally destroying globalism and going to further divide the world.

If they were willing to play this card, they should have saved it for when China starts some fuckery. A last resort card before nukes. That card is now gone. The number one issue for national security is to not rely on these financial systems.

I say this, without exactly understanding any of it. I just know that for a lot of the world, they now know with certainty they can no longer rely on these financial systems as the west has declared them not a global tool, but a weapon of control and power.

It'd be a priority to move away from and not rely on such systems. Which is the west giving up power and influence. Which will be picked up by China, Russia and others. Work against bringing the world together.

The worrying thing is, as that happens, what will the US and the west do to try and cling onto that power?

 

[Make Anime Illegal]

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Because without Biden, NATO wouldn't know whether to support Russia or not. wtf.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I got a admit I never thought the Russians would have such a hard time

It just goes to show how much of a power leveller modern weapons systems are. Ukraine has tonnes of easy to use AT and AA systems given to them by the western powers and man are they putting them to use.

Back in my day in the Forces, we were told the Russian would be through the Gap in less then 28 hours. We had to plan on being surrounded and slowly fighting our way out to link up with other bubble forces, using moblity and tactics to avoid handing the enemy any straight on slugging matches.

Man were those guys wrong!

After watching the Javeline system in use I knew we were at a paradigm shift. Light infantry was viable again as a major force instead of as backup/cannon fodder. Been saying it for years.

 

[Suburban Bastard]

Russia's economy is going to collapse lol