Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[IKOL]

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https://twitter.com/conflicts/status/1498221892708311043?s=21

Zelensky is demanding EU membership apparently. getting a little cocky.

Ебучий долбоеб и говно-комик...
Well that settles it then, UA will get flushed.

 

[mr.moon1488]

They're begging Cloudflare to drop DDOS protection and hosting for Russian govt. websites, now.

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It does make me wonder where all the cryptobros who were hyping up Ukraine, due to its corruption, are now.

If Cloudflare does bend the knee to this, it will be most unfortunate and set a precedent that other non-American countries can whinge them into submission.

It's amazing how almost every globohomo cause follows the same patterns
>Threat to democracy
>Emotional appeals aimed at brain dead normies
>Vilianization of opposition and deification of objective
>Censorship of counterpoints
>Silence is violence rhetoric to push neutral parties into conflict
>Shartmartcatic leaders circling the wagons globally in support
>Cohersion of extralegal powers to take action
>Ingoring crimes of the objective group while over enforcing laws on the opposition group
>Rewrite of history in the final stage to whitewash anything unseemly
>Move on to next target so everyone forgets

 

[Kaktus Kompot]

To bring a bit of levity into the thread, did people here know that in 2012 the current president of Ukraine played Napoleon in a trashy Epic Movie - style historical comedy? The whole situation right now is pretty surreal and I feel that kinda adds an extra dash of craziness.

 

[Da Grim Reaper]

MAP OF UKRAINE MARCH 1ST 2022 (REAL)

 

[Uber driver reviewer]

We had effectively zero trade or financial ties with Russia from 1947 through 1991.

The problem with trade embargos is they are only truly effective when deployed against regions too small to survive without them. We've been trying to starve the Iranian people into submission since, what, 1979? They're still around, since they can trade with Russia and China, and Iran itself is a pretty big patch of ground with a lot of resources. Turning Iraq into their vassal state didn't help speed things along, either.

One of the problems America has in 2022 that it didn't have in 1952 is nobody trusts us to have their backs any more, not after Libya, Egypt, Iraq, and Afghanistan. If Russia successfully breaks Ukraine, that clinches it: a safety guarantee from the USA, whether stated or implied, is only an election away from being turned into toilet paper.

The tradeoff in the Cold War was that, sure, Washington is calling some shots in your country, but it guarantees that those commie red bastards aren't going to take over and murder a few million of your citizens. Most small countries felt that was a pretty good deal, and a lot of bigger countries played Washington and Moscow off against each other to maintain their own independence--think India, Mexico, and China.

We aren't offering people that tradeoff anymore. We're actually offering threats. Stay on the USA's good side, or we cut off your access to SWIFT. Play ball with the US or we fund a color revolution. Dance to Washington's tune or kiss the largest single market in the world good-bye. And if some radical towelheads or whatever decide to overthrow your government, and we're too busy to give a shit? Just be glad it didn't happen earlier, you bastards.

So, okay, let's say we cut of Russia, and so does Western Europe. That's going to be a hard knock for them. But China isn't going to. India probably won't, either--they're too worried about China, and have historically never wanted to be one country's bitch. Looks like Brazil and Argentina aren't playing our game, either, and Mexico's got its own independent streak. Okay, so suppose we've got a trading bloc consisting of China, Russia, Mexico, India, Brazil, Argentina, Iran, and Iraq.

That's just too much territory to starve out. Sure, it'll be hard for Russia, but it will hardly end them. They'll have access to all the same Chinese-made goods we depend on, and raw materials are pretty easy to launder.

Not true


A Lot of trade occured via As middleman

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

They're begging Cloudflare to drop DDOS protection and hosting for Russian govt. websites, now.

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It does make me wonder where all the cryptobros who were hyping up Ukraine, due to its corruption, are now.

If Cloudflare does bend the knee to this, it will be most unfortunate and set a precedent that other non-American countries can whinge them into submission.

Cloudflare won't do shit, they provide services to literal terrorist groups like Hamas and refuse to stop. I doubt this will change their minds

 

[дядя Боря]

Along with its military and nukes. A dangerous combination for any pariah state.

may not be for too long.

If Russia openly asking Belorus/Kazahstan for help with cannon fodder and calling up reserves they are rapidly running out of steam and they have a lot of borders to defend.

The precision cruise missile strikes are now replaced with dumb hammering of heavy artillery. I bet they are out of cruise missile and won't replenish them anytime soon, if ever.

I can predict that there will be calls to strip Russia of nukes after this. I can see them now if various places and at some point that idea will get stronger.

When Russia is dead financially, olygarchs will be too happy to trade Russian arsenals for whatever money they have to be unfrozen.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Switzerland is officially buck broken by the EU.

Switzerland breaks neutral status to sanction Russia over Ukraine invasion

It was buck broken years earlier when it cucked on its gun laws to appease the EU.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Sole reason why Russia wasn't slaped to this day was their nuclear arsenal and firepower. Firepower, as we see, isn't so big that Europe was suppouse.

If in any way Europe will neutralize nuclear threat from Russia in any way we porbably will see a nice democratization by force.

Of all the idiots making ridiculous statements in this thread, you've got to be the biggest.

 

[draggs]

Russian soldiers are lost, confused, out of supplies, and getting burnt to a crisp by Western shoulder-fired rockets any time they show their ugly faces, but also just toying with the Ukrainians and in full control and only advancing slowly to keep civilians safe

Ukrainians are surrendering en masse and shooting each other but also there are several dozen Dynasty Warriors heroes Ukraine DLC killing thousands of Russian soldiers a day

I love war

 

[God of Nothing]

Russian soldiers are lost, confused, out of supplies, and getting burnt to a crisp by Western shoulder-fired rockets any time they show their ugly faces, but also just toying with the Ukrainians and in full control and only advancing slowly to keep civilians safe

Ukrainians are surrendering en masse and shooting each other but also there are several dozen Dynasty Warriors heroes Ukraine DLC killing thousands of Russian soldiers a day

I love war

They should not have pursued Ukrainian Lu Bu

 

[Ita Mori]

The retards at google really think that Russia is using google maps to invade Ukraine. The refugees are gonna get fucked by this and end up as cannon fodder for the Azov Battalion
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It's actions like these that bring us closer to war.
The point where we stop being neutral observers providing aid and turn into participants of war is ever so close...
Get comfy.

 

[дядя Боря]

Russian central bank is going to defence their shitty monopoly money at all costs: interests rates on 20% (!), yesterday was 8%.

Hm, if Russians was so stupid to bought homes on credits with costs based on central bank interests rates this will fuck Russians in few monts. If they not, they will be fucked by inflation. Russia stronk, everyone will get his shitty food, at least to the moment when famine starts.

Go and die Russia, it will be a pleasure to exploit this situation in next years.

oh it gets even dumber, a lot of Russians bought their houses and cars with dollar accounts since they had lower rates. They have to purchase dollars to make payments ...

This is the same shit that played out in Crimea and sanctions that prevented western banks to deal on Crimean territory.

As payments come due, I expect to see even more vids of crying Russians who demand that their mortgages are converted to Ruble account at older rates.

 

[Disheveled Human]

People severely overestimate the long-term effects of the sanctions on Russia of all places given both its history and the decoupling from Western markets and ties to China the last few years as well as the rise in oil prices.

Nah they are pretty fucked tbh. They cant move that much oil who is gonna buy the difference? Even if some country does want to buy the difference how are they gonna ship and store it?

 

[Corpun]

To bring a bit of levity into the thread, did people here know that in 2012 the current president of Ukraine played Napoleon in a trashy Epic Movie - style historical comedy? The whole situation right now is pretty surreal and I feel that kinda adds an extra dash of craziness.

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Why are Ukrainians making films about Russian history? I thought they didn't have a history with Russia.

 

[Socrates]

Some people just want to live out their fantasies of being the 'big bad puppeteers' of war, y'know?

It's funny because once you get into a habit of looking into the funding sources of these NGOs, you develop the ability to tell if an orginization is taking Soros money without even having to check anymore. It's uncanny, if it feels like something Soros would stereotypically fund, there's probably like a 90% chance that he is.

 

[No_one]

Why are Ukrainians making films about Russian history? I thought they didn't have a history with Russia.

Actually it's a Russian movie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rzhevsky_Versus_Napoleon

 

[hooboy]

We had effectively zero trade or financial ties with Russia from 1947 through 1991.

The problem with trade embargos is they are only truly effective when deployed against regions too small to survive without them. We've been trying to starve the Iranian people into submission since, what, 1979? They're still around, since they can trade with Russia and China, and Iran itself is a pretty big patch of ground with a lot of resources. Turning Iraq into their vassal state didn't help speed things along, either.

One of the problems America has in 2022 that it didn't have in 1952 is nobody trusts us to have their backs any more, not after Libya, Egypt, Iraq, and Afghanistan. If Russia successfully breaks Ukraine, that clinches it: a safety guarantee from the USA, whether stated or implied, is only an election away from being turned into toilet paper.

The tradeoff in the Cold War was that, sure, Washington is calling some shots in your country, but it guarantees that those commie red bastards aren't going to take over and murder a few million of your citizens. Most small countries felt that was a pretty good deal, and a lot of bigger countries played Washington and Moscow off against each other to maintain their own independence--think India, Mexico, and China.

We aren't offering people that tradeoff anymore. We're actually offering threats. Stay on the USA's good side, or we cut off your access to SWIFT. Play ball with the US or we fund a color revolution. Dance to Washington's tune or kiss the largest single market in the world good-bye. And if some radical towelheads or whatever decide to overthrow your government, and we're too busy to give a shit? Just be glad it didn't happen earlier, you bastards.

So, okay, let's say we cut of Russia, and so does Western Europe. That's going to be a hard knock for them. But China isn't going to. India probably won't, either--they're too worried about China, and have historically never wanted to be one country's bitch. Looks like Brazil and Argentina aren't playing our game, either, and Mexico's got its own independent streak. Okay, so suppose we've got a trading bloc consisting of China, Russia, Mexico, India, Brazil, Argentina, Iran, and Iraq.

That's just too much territory to starve out. Sure, it'll be hard for Russia, but it will hardly end them. They'll have access to all the same Chinese-made goods we depend on, and raw materials are pretty easy to launder.

nigger Russians are going to need wheelbarrows to buy bread in a month lol

 

[Aidan]

Cloudflare won't do shit, they provide services to literal terrorist groups like Hamas and refuse to stop. I doubt this will change their minds

You best not be seething.

 

[The Foldless Brain]

Nah they are pretty fucked tbh. They cant move that much oil who is gonna buy the difference? Even if some country does want to buy the difference how are they gonna ship and store it?

Europe relies on Russian oil in rates from 50% to 90%. They will not stop buying it and they are buying it even right now through the pipes that are still active through Ukraine. There's a reason the sanctions haven't touched that sector. Anyone seriously believing that Russia will collapse in a situation where countries like Venezuela and Iran have held on are kidding themselves.