War Invasion of Ukraine News Megathread - Thread is only for articles and discussion of articles, general discussion thread is still in Happenings.

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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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The copium from the usual Pro-Russian shills is fucking palpable.

Crying about the fact the West isn't always perfect. They're shelling civilian buildings indiscriminately, this is barbaric and completely counter-productive from a military perspective.

At this point I think the Russians have gotten themselves stuck in a complete military disaster. I feel bad for the poor conscripts who were sent there relying on Google maps, can't wait for the Putin hanging vid.
 
We can only hope it'll work, Russian civilians would need to be 20x as pissed off as BLM Riots of 2020 to make a dent before OMON cleans them off the streets and oligarchs, well, idk if people noticed but a lot of countries that did sanction Russia asked for sanctions to omit luxury goods, oligarchs are rich enough they won't have to care for a long while.

Thought Putin reportedly did forbid them from leaving Russia going as far as taking their jets, they're pissed off for sure but it'll take almost all of them to actually get Putin replaced, I'm sure a lot of money will need to change hands from to Oligarchs to Russian Military Commanders. West needs to start nationalizing anything and everything Oligarchs and their families own fast and while west talks the talk we'll see about walking the walk there as catering to those fucks is very lucrative for western elites.
Given how Muh Russian Collusion the West has been, there's no guarantee that removing Putin wouldn't just collapse the Russian state and turn the entire region into Slav Libya.
 
Lmao, I mean sure there will be war propaganda, but let's not forget the fact Russian troops were just exercising. Now they're trying to denazify the government led by a Ukranian Jew.

Dudes splitting hairs, and unless you live in this weird online outrage culture where they scream about left wing media all day, nobody gives a fuck.
 
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Anyone who fully accepts what the media reports as fact has learned nothing in the past several years. The media is a propaganda entity first and has no issues lying about the citizens of its own country, so why would it have any hesitation to lie about those who have even less relation to it.
Even seemingly little things like the Ukrainians telling the Russians to go fuck themselves before getting blown up turned out to be a total lie, I don't know if I even trust that Russia hasn't already overtaken Kyiv yet at this point.
 
Even seemingly little things like the Ukrainians telling the Russians to go fuck themselves before getting blown up turned out to be a total lie, I don't know if I even trust that Russia hasn't already overtaken Kyiv yet at this point.
It's just baffling that people can sit there, be told that Covid can't be transmitted via air, that it's only two weeks to slow the spread, that Nathan Philips was a Vietnam vet was approached and blocked by an evil Trump kid, that Joe Rogan ate horse paste, and so on, and still they somehow believe that now the media isn't full of shit despite being proven to be full of shit about multiple things.

I'm surprised there isn't a website just full of fake news showing all of the bullshit. There's probably enough out there for a massive catalogue. In many cases it's not like they learned new things, they openly admitted to lying as Fauci has with masks being useless as he thought there might be a shortage if he said they help slow the spread, he also admitted to changing the number for herd immunity because he didn't think people would accept the high number so he increased it by 5% each interview. We've even had reporters come out and admit they were barred from talking about Epstein because the station wanted an interview with some dumb bitch from the royal family.
 
I believe the media when they say that Russia is not doing as well as expected and they're nowhere near taking Kyiv, which was expected to fold faster than the proverbial chink in the laundromat.

Someone on TV said something the other day that I think holds:

"There are two parts to vanquishing a population. First, you must believe that you have vanquished them, and second, they themselves must believe that they are vanquished."

Right now, the wind seems to be in Zelinskyy's sails. And I'm sure I'm not alone in having thought that he'd be a red smear on a concrete wall by Day 5 of the invasion, a la Ceaușescu.
 
I'm curious what the eventual outcome of Swiss banks getting involved will be. Make no mistake, Switzerland is a criminal empire just like Russia, but they've been doing it for way longer and way cleaner - Until now, when they've visibly demonstrated their ability to seize billions of dollars of private wealth. Not only that, with how opaque their entire banking system and laws surrounding it are, who knows if that seizure will ever be released. Who could possibly enforce the return of that money, or prove it had been done properly?
 
This thread glows so hard, you could deorbit the ISS into it with ease. Yeah let's go to war to protect democrat corruption in the Ukraine. I hope Russia shuts their oil off and Europe gets a cold snap.

Dude, they're both corrupt. Russia has so much in terms of embezzling, monopolies, and corruption that a country that should be making as much money as America makes less money than California or New York.
 
I'm curious what the eventual outcome of Swiss banks getting involved will be. Make no mistake, Switzerland is a criminal empire just like Russia, but they've been doing it for way longer and way cleaner - Until now, when they've visibly demonstrated their ability to seize billions of dollars of private wealth. Not only that, with how opaque their entire banking system and laws surrounding it are, who knows if that seizure will ever be released. Who could possibly enforce the return of that money, or prove it had been done properly?
Frankly if Switzerland gets nuked as a result of this war the world wins.
 
This thread glows so hard, you could deorbit the ISS into it with ease. Yeah let's go to war to protect democrat corruption in the Ukraine. I hope Russia shuts their oil off and Europe gets a cold snap.
You don't need to be an advocate for US military intervention/adventuring to think that Putin overestimated the capabilities of his forces.

I don't doubt that there are incidents that are faked/embellished/exaggerated, but there are a few things that I think are well-established enough:

  1. Russia invaded Ukraine, via both their own borders and through Belarus, after a significant military buildup at the borders.
  2. Russia's justification is the alleged imminent genocide of Russian-speaking groups in eastern Ukraine by the supposedly neo-Nazi government of Ukraine, which is led by a Jew who is originally from a Russian-speaking background. They have stated that they intend to capture and "de-nazify" the government in Kiev.
  3. Around a week in, and there is no evidence of Russia having gotten into Kiev, despite it being fairly close to the Belarusian border.
  4. Russia has begun making unusually aggressive and lurid threats of retaliation against the world in general. There do not appear to be any counter-communiques saying "that's fake, we never said that."
Even otherwise discounting Ukrainian narratives, that doesn't come across as a military exercise that was justified or going according to plan.
 
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