Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Interesting in the second video as the dude is dying they are screaming what I assume is 'Die Nazi' at him. Puts it into perspective why Russian soldiers would be fighting into Ukraine: they believe all the Ukrainian military are Nazis. What was old is new again.

There is no way, no way in hell, with the mass psychosis going on this country, that we don't end up some kind of fascist state if this blows up into a world war. I just don't know where they are going to get their stormtroopers, considering everyone around age 18 is fat as fuck and addicted to video games.
The Russian hate for Nazis is super real and kinda weird for anyone whose country wasn't brutalized I imagine. A buddy of mine talked about how you'd find remains in all the old battlefields occasionally. If they thought they were German for whatever reason they'd abuse the remains out of spite.
 
If you can't understand why Russia's neighbor becoming westernized and wanting nukes which will be a 5 minute flight away from Moscow, thus totally fucking up the concept of Mutually Assured Destruction is an existential threat to Russia you're just a naive retard.

How exactly would deploying any type of nuke in Ukraine fuck up the concept of mutually assured destruction in the 21st century ?

I hear this paranoid Russian propaganda being parroted constantly but no one ever bothers attempting to explain how this would change the prevailing nuclear strategy. This isn't 1962 and neither the US or Russia's ability to counterattack is threatened by any kind of decapitation strike so I fail to see what we would gain other than the contempt of the entire world for doing it.

1: We both have domestic ICBM sites spread out over enormous areas capable of hitting each others territory which would necessitate the near total destruction of the target nation to reduce the number of warheads to a point that ABM defenses could even begin to have a chance at making a difference. And Russia's missile forces have a much wider field of range categories and are often mobile, further increasing their survivability.

2: We both have SSBN's capable of hitting anywhere on earth from comparable ranges to any land based ICBM.

3: Albeit much smaller than ours, Russia does have strategic bombers capable of getting within cruise missile range of our territory and vastly more nuclear capable multi-role aircraft which can preform the same role in conjunction with tanker aircraft.

4: We likely both have, either publicly acknowledged or secretly, other means of delivering nukes via SSBN's that remain submerged and bypass any missile defense.

The only notable disparity is our lack of ground based cruise missiles, they maintained this capability after the INF treaty was signed by toeing the line of permitted ranges allowed (and it's speculated well above those limits) while we fully committed and scraped all of ours. They were warned time and time again we would withdraw if they didn't make more of an effort and only under Trump did we finally pull the plug, well after this NATO/Ukraine obsession heated up. We've only just started experimenting with reintroducing conventionally armed land based tomahawks and there's so far been no plans to bring them to Europe, even though there's nothing stopping us from deploying both conventional and nuclear ones all over NATO alongside our current aircraft delivered nukes if we wanted to.

And how would nuclear tomahawks in Ukraine be anymore threatening than the hundreds we could deploy via subs alone if they genuinely believe we would attempt a nuclear first strike ? It still would be remotely capable of preventing a counter attack even from sites in Russia itself even in concert with a full scale attack via all other means, but everything of any importance in western Russia is well withing tomahawk range of the White, Black and Baltic seas.

And despite what Russia might claim, there's no AA system that can realistically defend against low flying cruise missiles no matter how much lead time they have to react. If we used just 100 and attacked targets near very end of their maximum range having to fly over Russia the entire distance they would only get lucky and shoot down maybe single digits that fly over SHORAD units who happen to be in the right place, we've seen how effective Russian AA is against tomahawks and even turboprop driven drones in the middle east.

Edit: You've totally convinced me with your neg rates, I concede.
 
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From a nuclear standpoint I don't really see how the balance of power changes. Russian still has missile subs to guarantee second strike, yeah?
It changes because right now if America would shoot nukes at Russia, Russia would have time to get their nukes off and both countries would face massive destruction but if America parks nukes right on the Russian border, it puts Russia at a massive disadvantage. It's the same reason why America was pissed at Russia putting missiles in Cuba.
 
It's strange that not a single F-35 is ever delivered.
You would almost think they are too good to be true.
Because they aren't type rated pilots in the fucking F-35. What do you think, it's like swapping out an Accord for a G35?

Also. they're expensive as fuck and right now the Ukrainians don't exactly have a great track record with keeping their aircraft airborne.

If it were me, I'd give them about half of those and hold onto the other ones for when they get those destroyed.
 
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That was many years before. And we didn't care when he did it. As well, the chemical weapons were world war I kind of stuff. Mostly
mustard gas. It was about as low-tech and cheap as possible.
They did make Sarin and some quantities of VX, none of which were sufficiently pure to survive long-term storage.
Mustard can potentially be stored for decades, but there's no evidence they did.

The bioweapons thing was completely made up by an iraqi taxi driver, larping as some kind of supervillain:

Naturally, the CIA glowniggers knew he was full of shit, but hey, what's a lie among friends?
 
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The last photo in the set. They blew up some poor weeb's apartment.
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Don't they have better things to do with their energy than be really, really racist? Imagine being invaded by a hostile superpower and deciding that this is the perfect time to commit some hate crimes. Christ.
Especially when the people you are beating up come from a nation that has very friendly relations with the invading hostile superpower, and is currently contemplating ways to go around Western sanctions.
 
The Russian hate for Nazis is super real and kinda weird for anyone whose country wasn't brutalized I imagine. A buddy of mine talked about how you'd find remains in all the old battlefields occasionally. If they thought they were German for whatever reason they'd abuse the remains out of spite.
That's weird considering there are more than a few Russians who are of at least partial German descent, for example Putin himself. But yeah that war really did a number on all of them.
 
"We gotta help our allies in WWI!"
"Alright!"
"Now we gotta beat those Nazis in WWII!"
"Go for it! Red, White, and Blue!"
"Now we gotta intervene in this specific country who hasn't done anything wrong to us because they may be Communists!"
"Uh... Okay, go America!"
"The Cold War is over! The Russians are our friends now. Now let's intervene in a few nations and then we go home."
"whatever"
"THEY BLEW OUR TWIN TOWERS, LET FUCK INVADE IRAQ BECAUSE BUSH SAID THAT THERE MAY BE WMDS IN THERE!!!"
"alright, let's invade iraq..."
"We killed Bin Laden, peace at last! Ignore the fact that Lybia is now a rump state and to this very day there's a bunch of deformed babies being born in Fallujah."
"..."
"Let's intervene in Syria! Let's intervene in Latin America! Let's intervene in Eastern Europe! Let's intervene there, there, there, we need to expand! For freedom and democracy of course! (America isn't even a democracy)"
It's OK because the US sells bombs and airplanes, Hollywood movies, and has Facebook and Google.
 
From a nuclear standpoint I don't really see how the balance of power changes. Russian still has missile subs to guarantee second strike, yeah?
They can't guarantee it per se as sub hunting technology is pretty impressive. Back in the cold war we had most of the pacific wired to track subs and apparently when the Chinese captured a Navy spy plane they found a lot of spook tech that was able to track subs.
 
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they are not backing Ukraine, they are acknowledging an invasion on false pretenses, just because Vlad wants to rebuild his USSR back before he croaks from Parkinsons.
Lol no they're not. World leaders don't give a fuck about morals or pretense. These people are selfish ass-wipes who would let millions die to line their pockets. Their doing this because fucking Russia is in their interest, and now Putin knows the rest of the world leaders think that way.
 
Update from Russian Telegram
"What is there in Kiev?
(28.02.2022)

• Klitschko continues to make mistakes.
First, the evacuation of the population did not begin. Already, even the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation openly says that it is possible to leave the capital along the Kyiv-Vasilkov highway, but the KMDA does not want to seriously deal with this.

Secondly, the duration of the curfew was reduced, people went out to the shops, stood in huge queues - and returned home empty-handed. Logistics is dead.

Thirdly, the "terodefense" continues to concentrate equipment and ammunition on social infrastructure facilities. If you think that we do not notice how weapons are being rolled around the city under the guise of cargo supposedly for Epicenter and Novaya Poshta, you are very mistaken.

It would be better if food and medicine were brought to people. And the landing on the southwestern outskirts of Kyiv was, believe me, superfluous.

• However, the main event of the day is the negotiations in Gomel. A delegation arrived from Zelensky headed by Arakhamia in a cap, a native of the RSFSR who considers himself a great diplomat. Why? Because he was able to reconcile his ex-wife with his current one. It's not a joke, he really thinks so.

And Russia was represented by a delegation headed by Medinsky, a native of the Cherkasy region. Such is the irony of fate and geography (considering the route of the delegation from Zelensky right through Poland).

But the negotiations, as I predicted, turned out to be empty. There is nothing to analyze here, Zelensky is just playing for time, as in the case of Minsk-2. At the same time, even the United States does not believe in him, predicting Russia's success in the Kiev direction.

• Forecast - tomorrow we are likely to see more activity on the Left Bank of Kyiv, which previously remained an arc of stability. There are rumors in the city that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have mined the bridges across the Dnieper. If someone has real information on this issue - beacon in the comments, I will contact you.

And yes - take care of yourself, help your neighbors, keep in touch with loved ones and do not swear with each other"
 
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