Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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    694
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It always seemed like an odd symbol for the religion to me. It'd be like if Japan put a mushroom cloud on their flag.
I mean I can kinda sorta understand using it to represent Jesus' sacrifice to other Christians. But saying it insults God somehow is bizarre to me. A cross isn't God. A cross isn't Jesus. If it isn't intentionally being used to represent Jesus' sacrifice then it has nothing to do with Christianity
 
VTOL capabilities would be extremely useful in a scenario in which enemy has capacity to destroy most of your airfields. Since Russians seems to be using mostly ancient equipment, it would would dominate in proper hands.

There's no such thing as a VTOL fixed wing aircraft in any kind of operational sense.

The F-35 and its predecessors are all STOVL, they still require a runway to get airborne unless they dump virtually all their fuel and weapons beforehand.

And it's all European nations sending aircraft while only the US and UK use the STOVL F-35B.
 
Omg nooooo!
Not heckin' wrongthinkers! I guess you have no choice but to invade then, huh? Next they should invade the United States, we have like, actual neo-Nazis in the military too!!
The (white nationalist, neo Nazi) Azov regiments became part of Ukraine's military after 2014 and have gained a great deal of control over it. They have had it out for the ethnic Russians in the regions contested in this conflict. Which is why Russia listed "denazification" as one of its goals. The Azovs consider Russians to be Communists and want them destroyed. So that colors in some of the detail of this conflict that is sorely and I would say intentionally lacking.

Which makes it the ultimate irony that the twitter crowd will make up pretend Nazis and tear things up to get their way but will support real neo Nazis to get their shots in at Putin and by extension Trump. It's amazing to watch.

I think that the specific push by Putin to "denazify" is less about that explixit goal and more to act as a point of confusion for Western critics that will, in time look bad for having backed anything associated with Azov. It is an attempt to use the very mindset that you mocked against those in the West that extol such virtue. He knows the West has little appreciation for the nuance of this situation thanks to the US and the UK diplomatic corps and their respective media.
 
You know what's funny about this thread? In reading it, I think I actually might have learned more about various subjects OTHER than what the fuck is going on in Ukraine.
That's just how it always goes in happening threads, its like being stuck in an airport while a hurricane approaches and all you can do it make idle conversation with the people around you to get your mind off the impending impact.
 
Wakanda isnt real tho, and still living in the stone age and in a hunter gatherer society while the rest of the world was building ships and planes isn't really "culture", American niggers should be grateful their ancestors were picked for buckbreaking.
Oh hell no. As a black person, I rather be a pure black African savage with dark ebony skin loving in a hut. I could spend my days weaving baskets, making pots, and tending my farm. I could be sexually and spiritually pure living the way nature and God intended. But since I live in a Western country, I developed into a sodomite whose spaces are harassed by more degenerate forces then myself. At this point, suicide and death seems like a good thing no point for me. But I need to write a manifesto.
 
All well and good.
But the problem is that the F-35 is the definition of high maintenance and are basically irreplaceable.
That's probably working as intended, or "a happy accident". Why squeeze the taxpayers only once, when you can milk them for decades instead?

but for now it's a plane that's only capable on paper and will melt in a near-peer conflict.
What was the last time the US even had to face a remotely capable enemy air force? Desert Storm?

I also don't buy the "well you see, we're so stealthed and so long ranged, the enemy will simply never hit us!" mindset.
The autistic mantra of "why bother about dogfights, BVR is all that matters" seems ill-advised if you're ever going to face an enemy with comparable stealth and EW capabilities.

I mean, if you only ever intend to fight decrepit dicatorships with 40-year-old equipment, or sandal-wearing goatherders, that's not going to matter.
But in that case, you probably could get the job done with mothballed aircraft from the 1960s just as well...
 
Those are such sitting ducks. Is it bold or are they that secure with their airpower? There's so much propaganda going around that I just don't believe anything that I can't see on my own.
Not bold, just dumb. I remember in the Iraq invasion despite having the upper hand in Airpower we still had to space vehicles out at motor pools when possible just to mitigate damage from potential air attacks. That was a cold war era practice that never got phased out and I imagine the Soviets used to teach the same.
 
Ukrainian "Special Forces" destroy Russian tank. As usual there is no proof the pictured tank is the same one they are shooting at. But judging from the weak side AK mag\reload on the belt, these guys probably have some idea what they are doing.

 
You and I both know that if that were Rei lying on the ground, we'd all be saying "Good! Rei is shit!" The "best girl" argument from Evangelion is eternal and has no answer. LOL.
If the Russians turn out to be Mari- or Misatofags, I'm rooting for them.
Mother fucker wants this war to go nuclear making posts like this.
If we die in a nuclear holocaust, we'll die knowing that not only did Asukafags refuse to let go and move on, but were blown the fuck out by both Anno and Putin.
 
I'm not saying I want Russia to win for the reddit seethe, but it's be funny as hell if the only real 'loss' Russia gets out of all this is missing the World Cup and Eurovision.
Russia wins-Biden looks like a dumber piece of shit
Ukraine wins-annoying slavaboos on military forums eat crow for years to come

I can't lose.
 
I can see why Putin wants Ukraine and the kikes don't want Putin spread his genes.


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What was the last time the US even had to face a remotely capable enemy air force? Desert Storm?
But the whole point of the F-35 is to compete with stealth aircraft from China and Russia. If you literally cannot take punches from the people you're supposed to be fighting, by definition it isn't doing its job. Oh sure it can club baby seals, but so can an F-16.
 
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