Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
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Imagine shutting down free speech for free, at least the NKVD or Stasi or Gestapo or any other authoritarian police force in history were paid to shut it down, these niggers are doing it for free.

Could it be that free speech is not the natural state of man since in the west, we got people willing to fuck it all up to become voluntarily like the USSR.
I mean people want to surpress free speech because we've raised a generation of emotionally and mentally weak people who think criticism is harassment and Any slight discomfort is oppression. The people who do this don't care that they set a bad example these people only live in the now and think consequences are something only white people deserve to suffer.

Being terminally online has destroyed these people. Remember the optimism we had in our day to day life is gone because of reddit jannies. Sorry for the fedposting but when the days comes jannies on Reddit deserve the rope.
 
Russian shelling of a military unit in Okhtyrka killed at least 70 Ukrainian soldiers.
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So Ukraine's EU membership is currently being reviewed apparently, let's say by some tiny chance it does get approved, what the hell does that mean for it?
That it's gonna be a very VERY cold summer.
This is one of the legitimate scenarios where nuclear escalation is not just likely but guaranteed, it would also be a legit WW3 because as a EU member the rest of EU has to defend them which also ropes in the USA as they are all NATO of course Russia alone would suffer the same fate of Nazi Germany of fighting the whole world alone so they'll drag their relevant allies to the fray to help out not just China, which is the other big player but all the commie countries in America now become possible nuke launchers to contest America and also since China is now in the fray this will draw all Sino sphere countries.
At that point it would become a true world war
 
Oh my god Russians will suffer under a complete capeshit embargo

Maybe we'll get capeshit from Russia, there was a Xman style film from there a few years back that was surprising fun to watch ngl
 
Boomers were all raised with the mindset that

1) journalists are all trustworthy, selfless and borderline superhumans (an impression that is reinforced in FAR too many works of fiction)

2) that everyone had a "duty" to stay informed and up to date (an impression reinforced by TV networks themselves, i.e. "this is what you need to know about x")

So they watch TV all day without question, and basically brainwash themselves.

I don't mean to dunk on an entire generation like this but its actually fucking sad. They're human beings who have been manipulated for so long they are blind to it. I talk to my grandparents and other older relatives and no matter whether they are left or right, as soon as anything related to current events comes up in conversation, they turn into zombies mindlessly regurgitating what they watched.

It kills me inside because they let that define them, and they're so set in their ways that nothing I can say or do will change them.
It has to do with a lot of Boomers and a sizable section of Gen-X see reporters as "fighting against the system" and "telling the truth no matter what the risk!"

Mainly because, thanks to the First Amendment, the press can report, safely and securely, on all the dirty deeds of the US government they want. Now that they are OPENLY in bed with the Dems, they know they have the public's trust, so they just keep writing articles that are often outright lies.

Like the fact that Boomers think protesting actually does anything (in their minds they stopped Vietnam and got darkies the right to vote by protesting and waving signs and listening to rock and roll and giving each other herpes) Boomers consider the press, which brought down Nixon, exposed the truth of Vietnam, and spent 30 years licking the Baby Boomer's assholes, to be their truthful friend who will always speak truth to power and tell them the truth.

In reality the press is a bunch of lying faggots all out to break a story that fucks over other people and gets attention, before jumping off and looking for a new story.
 
Keep drinking the Russian Kool-Aid bro. Russia could have simply just not invaded and avoided all this pointless death. They got away with stealing Cremia and now they are just being greedy and want the whole cake.
>stealing Cremia
>Cremia


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Retard, you mixed up Crimea with a fucking Zelda character. Nobody gives a shit what you think.
 
Boomers were all raised with the mindset that

1) journalists are all trustworthy, selfless and borderline superhumans (an impression that is reinforced in FAR too many works of fiction)

2) that everyone had a "duty" to stay informed and up to date (an impression reinforced by TV networks themselves, i.e. "this is what you need to know about x")

So they watch TV all day without question, and basically brainwash themselves.

I don't mean to dunk on an entire generation like this but its actually fucking sad. They're human beings who have been manipulated for so long they are blind to it. I talk to my grandparents and other older relatives and no matter whether they are left or right, as soon as anything related to current events comes up in conversation, they turn into zombies mindlessly regurgitating what they watched.

It kills me inside because they let that define them, and they're so set in their ways that nothing I can say or do will change them.

I'd argue people today are worse. Imagine a boomer that carries their TV around with them 24/7. Now they have time to have opinions about matters the boomer TV didn't even bother with. "Is Pokemon Queer enough for your child?"
 
Oh my god Russians will suffer under a complete capeshit embargo

Oh noooo not my capeshit

How will I survive without knowing what happens in the next superhero movie where the good guys beat the bad guys for the 38495938775299123320998 th time?
 
The difference is in lived experience. Ask someone about the job they have to go every day and they’ll tell you what they go through every day. When it comes to TV news it’s a whole different story since 95% of what they hear on the news has no direct effect on them (and oftentimes little indirect effect).
Isn't this just Gell-Mann amnesia? "Everything you read in the paper is true except for the things of which you have firsthand knowledge?" Or do I have that mixed up with something else?

After all the dust has settled on this ridiculous shitshow, I hope someone does a definitive writeup on war propaganda in the social media age. Feels like a book that's just waiting to be written.
 
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Isn't this just Gell-Mann amnesia? "Everything you read in the paper is true except for the things of which you have firsthand knowledge?" Or do I have that mixed up with something else?

After all the dust has settled on this ridiculous shitshow, I hope someone does a definitive writeup on war propaganda in the social media age. Feels like a book that's just waiting to be written.
Gell-Mann is "You read something in the paper that you have knowledge of, and realize it's bullshit. Not just bullshit, completely ass backwards, "wet sidewalks cause rain" backwards. You laugh and think "god, these journalists are fucking idiots, how could they get it so wrong?" Then you turn the page and completely forget that these are journalists who are fucking idiots and get things wrong."

Fun fact: It was reading about Gell-Mann right before GamerGate that got me out of the bubble. Having Gell-Mann on my mind when I read shit like Salon or The Guardian blatantly lying about things I knew to be false about GG broke the hugbox for me, and the second the NPCs in the liberal circles I knew realized I had broken the conditioning they turned on me pretty damned quick.
 
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So Ukraine's EU membership is currently being reviewed apparently, let's say by some tiny chance it does get approved, what the hell does that mean for it?
Pretty sure it would just streamline diplomatic, economic and immigration (read: makes it easier to take Ukranian civilians who are currently fleeing into EU nations) avenues. I don't think it would necessarily mean anything militarily beyond making it easier to transport weapons into Ukraine.
 
That it's gonna be a very VERY cold summer.
This is one of the legitimate scenarios where nuclear escalation is not just likely but guaranteed, it would also be a legit WW3 because as a EU member the rest of EU has to defend them, which also ropes in the USA as they are all NATO, of course Russia alone would suffer the same fate of Nazi Germany of fighting the whole world alone so of course they'll drag their relevant allies to the fray to help out, not just China which is the other big player but all the commie countries in America now become possible nuke launchers to contest America, and also since China is now in the fray this will also draw all Sino sphere countries.
At that point it would become a true world war
If the EU agrees to Zelensky’s request for EU membership, I blame the US, EU, and Zelensky for escalating the war
 
That it's gonna be a very VERY cold summer.
This is one of the legitimate scenarios where nuclear escalation is not just likely but guaranteed, it would also be a legit WW3 because as a EU member the rest of EU has to defend them which also ropes in the USA as they are all NATO of course Russia alone would suffer the same fate of Nazi Germany of fighting the whole world alone so of course they'll drag their relevant allies to the fray to help out not just China, which is the other big player but all the commie countries in America now become possible nuke launchers to contest America and also since China is now in the fray this will draw all Sino sphere countries.
At that point it would become a true world war

Did the European Union become a defensive pact while I wasn't looking? I thought it was an economic union?
 
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