US US Politics General - Discussion of President Biden and other politicians

 

[Sithis]

So, assuming Bidet doesn't manage to escalate the Ukrainian shit into a Fallout level Great War between nuclear powers or the war doesn't fizzle out, what betting odds are we looking at that the Dems will claim that any unfavorable 2022/2024 election results are Russian cyber attacks or alternatively implement their own "security measures" that cut out republican oversight of the process in the name of protecting us from "the Russians"?

 

[Delta Integrale]

Yes America will get their ass kicked, but not because of the commercials.

These commercials and other changes will reduce mostly young Southern white men wanting to join the military, a major and effective demographic and trying to appeal to basically San Francisco woke progressives is going to be a disaster. Some of them are also trying to recruit from minorities and women as well into combat roles and pigeonhole them rather than merit, which is a major red flag for any competent military.

If America loses, its because of low morale and mutinies more likely than America losing on technology or tactics.

Its time to stop beating around the bush that allowing all those sycophants to keep on getting away with that woke bullshit to appease white liberal women, that hate their daddies, will lead to problems that hurt in the long term.

To add on to this:

• Many people in the upper echelons have allegiances elsewhere or only to themselves. They'll bail on the country as soon as they can (i.e. the rootless cosmopolitans, the academics who constantly take bribes from other countries, dual citizenships amongst the leadership)
• Dumbass generals who'd sell out their own country. Looking at you Mr. White Rage. Hell, do any of the guys in charge now give you the same confidence you would've had with Eisenhower, MacArthur, Patton, etc? Hopefully there are some lower in the ranks who were passed over because they didn't want to play the game who would step up when the time comes.
• One half of the population vehemently hates the other half; increasing racial divides; no national unity. This becomes important because if the country starts breaking up because of internal conflicts, all bets are off. Everyone is fine when there's plenty to go around. What happens when there's not enough to go around?
• National identity just being looked down upon in general. You're never just an American. You're this-American or that-American and eventually just this or that.
• A citizenry that is becoming more and more disenfranchised. Going to be a lot of "why should I fight for a country that threw me away".

The technology and 20+ years of expertise on bombing random shitholes is a big hurdle to get over. Really, it all depends on how much China can actually put forth because it's becoming increasingly obvious Russia, while formidable in its own right, is nowhere near the war machine that the US has built itself into. I suspect China is even more of a paper tiger than Russia as far as the military goes but they have the entire world's manufacturing industry by the balls. We see all the countries stopping random services to Russia but I'll bet there'll be a lot more whinging when it comes to doing the same with China.

 

[The Big O]

So, assuming Bidet doesn't manage to escalate the Ukrainian shit into a Fallout level Great War between nuclear powers or the war doesn't fizzle out, what betting odds are we looking at that the Dems will claim that any unfavorable 2022/2024 election results are Russian cyber attacks or alternatively implement their own "security measures" that cut out republican oversight of the process in the name of protecting us from "the Russians"?

On the heels of 2020? It's way too fresh in people's memories. They wouldn't succeed without constituencies around the USA calling bullshit on any sort of Democrat "fortification." All bets would be off by that point.

 

[pwnest injun]

The editors are boomers who don't understand internet culture, and any young conservative with half a brain knows they'll be a lot more successful talking shit on youtube than trying to grind their way to the top in legacy media.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Yes America will get their ass kicked, but not because of the commercials.

These commercials and other changes will reduce mostly young Southern white men wanting to join the military, a major and effective demographic and trying to appeal to basically San Francisco woke progressives is going to be a disaster. Some of them are also trying to recruit from minorities and women as well into combat roles and pigeonhole them rather than merit, which is a major red flag for any competent military.

If America loses, its because of low morale and mutinies more likely than America losing on technology or tactics.

Its time to stop beating around the bush that allowing all those sycophants to keep on getting away with that woke bullshit to appease white liberal women, that hate their daddies, will lead to problems that hurt in the long term.

Remember, a major carrot to get people into the military is to get people to move up in society. A poor redneck that goes into the military gets an education, training, and leaves it significantly better than they were when they went in; this is intentional, it's meant to push class mobility. Ideally these guys end up in the middle class, presuming he doesn't find some female leech to suck his income dry on the way up.

It doesn't surprise me at all that a bunch of worthless fucks wanted to subvert that. The same people who went into the military thinking it would be a free way to get the government to pay for their Feminist Dance Therapy degree and that they could subvert and destroy yet-another-old boy's club are the ones who are gobsmacked, absolutely gobsmacked, that a major country that's not America could be committing acts of war in the world theatre.

When push comes to shove, when it comes time to ship people off to die, the women won't. They'll go get pregnant and bail. Or they'll refuse to go. Or they'll go and be completely fucking worthless, which is one unspoken thing no one in the military wants to talk about. Female soldiers are worthless as combatants. Absolutely worthless. Worse, they make the men around them worthless, too.

The woke men who followed them into the military won't go, either. They won't have the discipline, they won't follow those orders. Go to WAR? What, are you crazy? I just joined for the GI Benefits and money, I ain't dying for the fash, man!

Can you imagine a bunch of woke idiots in a war zone livestreaming shit to social media, giving away their position and failing to meet objectives? Can you imagine the freakouts if their phones are seized?

This is a huge fucking problem and I'd hate to see when it all comes to a head. Sadly, it's starting to look like I'll be stuck living that long.

To add on to this:

• Many people in the upper echelons have allegiances elsewhere or only to themselves. They'll bail on the country as soon as they can (i.e. the rootless cosmopolitans, the academics who constantly take bribes from other countries, dual citizenships amongst the leadership)
• Dumbass generals who'd sell out their own country. Looking at you Mr. White Rage. Hell, do any of the guys in charge now give you the same confidence you would've had with Eisenhower, MacArthur, Patton, etc? Hopefully there are some lower in the ranks who were passed over because they didn't want to play the game who would step up when the time comes.
• One half of the population vehemently hates the other half; increasing racial divides; no national unity. This becomes important because if the country starts breaking up because of internal conflicts, all bets are off. Everyone is fine when there's plenty to go around. What happens when there's not enough to go around?
• National identity just being looked down upon in general. You're never just an American. You're this-American or that-American and eventually just this or that.
• A citizenry that is becoming more and more disenfranchised. Going to be a lot of "why should I fight for a country that threw me away".

The technology and 20+ years of expertise on bombing random shitholes is a big hurdle to get over. Really, it all depends on how much China can actually put forth because it's becoming increasingly obvious Russia, while formidable in its own right, is nowhere near the war machine that the US has built itself into. I suspect China is even more of a paper tiger than Russia as far as the military goes but they have the entire world's manufacturing industry by the balls. We see all the countries stopping random services to Russia but I'll bet there'll be a lot more whinging when it comes to doing the same with China.

And the thing is you got /pol/ types who'd call that a good thing because a major disaster will see house being cleaned and a competent military will step up in their place, that or militias or PMCs with their boys who actually know what it's like to kick ass and take names. That or they'll find living under a dictatorship of Russia or China (or some other authoritarian shithole with little to no freedoms) will be worth it because Redditors and journalists blue checkmarks on Twitter will soon find themselves in a CoD execution cutscene despite them being good little reporters and collaborators because it's time for a purge. To paraphrase another user, some will be fine living under an iron fist because they'll get hit, but a leftist might get hit twice as hard.

 

[Snekposter]

Can you imagine a bunch of woke idiots in a war zone livestreaming shit to social media, giving away their position and failing to meet objectives? Can you imagine the freakouts if their phones are seized?

Already happened with Sweden. Their lovely, feminist, women-run headquarters unit kept getting knocked out during exercises since OpFor just looked them up on social media. In an actual war, at least there'd be no mulligans for them. Go directly to the afterlife, do not pass go, do not collect 200 Likes.

Sucks to be one guy there actually doing his job, though.

 

[Individualism Incarnate]

But here's the real question. The left keeps doubling down, over and over again. Bush was Hitler. McCain and Romeny were Hitler even before the election. Trump was Ultra Hitler, 72 point bold italic underlined. What the hell is the next Republican that runs going to be? Or god forbid, the next one that wins? Are they going to retire the Super Ultra Mega Hitler, 72 point bold italic underlined 2: this time it's personal label for "DeSantis is another Trump?" Will the conditioning be that strong that the mere mention of Trump will cause them to wet their pants?

Its the smear that lefties have been using since 1945. They aren't going to stop anytime soon.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I think a lot of independents and people who never really cared about politics before probably feel something similar. Anyone and everyone who didn't buy into COVID hysteria 100% from the word 'go' was smeared as a hateful bigot. People who didn't want to get the vaccines because you previously got COVID and now had natural immunity or parents concerned that a mask was doing more harm than good to your child were branded as Turbo Hitler. A non-insignificant amount of politically unaffiliated people aren't going to forget so easily what the people who stole two years of their lives did to keep people in line with their ineffective measures.

And COVID shots could have been resolved with basic sales tactics too. A hard no? Okay, that's cool. I'll come back in a few weeks. Hey, this shot is fine, it won't hurt you. Herd immunity will kick in faster if you take it. 70% have met the benchmark we set? Good enough. None of this "you're spreading COVID you anti-vaxxer! Reee!"

Even masks can be sold as positives. They don't just protect against COVID, but pollen allergies too. Face scan technology doesn't work on masked people. Instead it was denying acts of commerce for not having a mask.

 

[Gehenna]

Here, have a cute video to feel better after... that:

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A rare solid Garrison comic!

 

[LightDragonman1]

Heh heh, some more takes from Biden's supporters (or at least, those who prefer him over Trump and similar politicians).

 

[XYZpdq]

A rare solid Garrison comic!

wow you're so marked that when you hotlink a bat being cute the THEM! shut it down to crush all joy

 

[Gehenna]

wow you're so marked that when you hotlink a bat being cute the THEM! shut it down to crush all joy

I am sorry, what?

 

[XYZpdq]

I am sorry, what?

oh, I was getting an error link until I clicked on shit
I assumed the THEM! had tagged you hard
clearly you have at least an hour left

 

[Sekirodiealot]

The links they'll go to make the Ukraine Russia situation about trump is NASUEATING.

• Trump on Monday once again made false claims on Ukraine and NATO.
• The former president has sought to rewrite history when it comes to Ukraine as Russia attacks.
• Trump in 2019 was impeached, in part, for withholding military aid from Ukraine.

Former President Donald Trump continues to push a revisionist history when it comes to how he approached Ukraine and NATO while in the White House.

Trump, who has repeatedly mischaracterized how NATO functions and is funded, in a new statement on Monday said, "I hope everyone is able to remember that it was me, as President of the United States, that got delinquent NATO members to start paying their dues, which amounted to hundreds of billions of dollars."

Both Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush pressured NATO allies to increase spending — Trump was hardly the first. And since 2014, several years before Trump entered the White House, defense spending by NATO members has steadily increased.

"Since 2014, all Allies in Europe and Canada have increased defense spending every year. And they have, in total, added 270 billion extra for defense," NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said earlier this month.

In other words, Trump is taking credit for a trend that began before he was president — and he's done so repeatedly.


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Trump in his new statement also said, "There would be no NATO if I didn't act strongly and swiftly."

But during his presidency, Trump repeatedly bashed NATO and raised fears that the US would leave the alliance. His approach to NATO created historic tensions with key US allies.

"Also, it was me that got Ukraine the very effective antitank busters (Javelins) when the previous Administration was sending blankets. Let History so note!" Trump went on to say in the statement.

It's true that Javelin anti-tank missiles were sold to Ukraine during the Trump era. But Trump in 2019 was also impeached, in part, for withholding roughly $400 million of military aid from Ukraine as it continued to fight a war against Kremlin-backed rebels in the Donbas region. Trump froze the aid while pressuring Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky — currently being lauded as a hero as Russia invades his country — to launch an investigation into then-Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, over baseless allegations of corruption.

Trump's suggestion that the Obama administration only sent "blankets" to Ukraine is also false.

After Russia invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea in 2014, there were growing calls in Washington for the US to provide Kyiv with security assistance. The Obama administration refused to provide lethal aid to Ukraine over fears it could escalate the conflict with Russia, and has faced criticism over this. But the US under Obama did ultimately provide Ukraine with millions in security assistance, including military equipment and training. Between 2014 and 2016, the US committed over $600 million in security assistance to Ukraine.

Under the Biden administration, the US has provided Ukraine with roughly $1 billion in security assistance, including lethal aid.

With a Russian invasion of Ukraine underway, Trump and his Republican allies have made the case that Moscow never would've attacked if he was in the White House, and many in the GOP have sought to politicize the crisis. Meanwhile, top experts on Russia and authoritarianism have said that Trump emboldened Russian President Vladimir Putin — and helped pave the way for this war.

 

[Kane Lives]

The links they'll go to make the Ukraine Russia situation about trump is NASUEATING.
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I just have to laugh at the leaps of logic.

> Asking for Yuropoors to pay their fair share is now bashing NATO
> D-Drumpf totes is Putin's puppet cuz he didnt invade t-then.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Not to mention, should war were declared, with America as fractured as it is, the troubles will be a coming. What is it, 40% of the populace didnt buy the 3am 100% for Biden ballots? Everything Brandon touches turns to shit of the runniest kind. The draft will break this country.

Biden can't bring back the draft; hell, the DNC will KILL Biden and blame Black Lives Matters so they can exit any and all WW3 shit Biden would have tried to start, before they'll let Biden bring back the draft.

The entire DNC/GOP uniparty gang learned the lesson from Vietnam, that the best way to castrate all future anti-war movement is to make the military 100% voluntary, so middle class parents and poor fags can say "they volunteered for it" and never having to worry about being drafted to fight in a war or seeing their kids drafted and coming home in a body bag or horribly maimed or crippled.

Bringing back the draft would mean that EVERYONE would have skin in the game, which means a wider backlash and a much stronger backlash from across the board over people and their kids being made to die for Biden's re-election campaign. Adding to it, is that you just fucking KNOW that the draft will be rigged. Besides the inherent bullshit that is women being except from the draft, they will EXPLICITLY draft white people unless you are some rich guy/famous guy/politician's son and they will make even further sure to make sure red states are hit hardest by draft calls so they can repeat what happened with Prohibition (an insanely unpopular law that passed only because 2/3rds of the male population was out of the country fighting WW1 and as such, were unable to vote against it) with the left's wet dream list of progression legislation that can only be passed if they basically decimate the electorate so they can pass it.

Worse, in the current year climate, any exceptions to being drafted will be reserved solely for minorities and gays and you will also see Biden and the DNC threaten Republicans and Biden critics into voting for whatever the DNC want/shilling whatever Biden wants by threatening to not only draft their kids but send them to the worst possible parts of the war zone purely to make them have to chose between their kids lives or being slaves to the left. And all that combined will create a powderkeg of corruption that will lead to civil war on par with what we saw with Russia in WW1 except this time it will be conservatives killing commies and taking over.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

As has been said, they’ve bred too many Branch Covidians via fear-induced brain breaking who insist on continuing COVID restrictions against all reality. As much as they want to throttle such people and tell them to stop because they’re making the party look bad, they can’t and it’s a self-inflicted problem that the party itself created.

A neat little addendum to your post that I just saw before heading off to bed:

DON'T. CALL. IT. A. GRAVE. MOTHERFUCKERS.

 

[Sithis]

Just wanted to say fuck you Biden and Democrats in general for creating a political environment so retarded that I got a call from my fucking mother tonight asking about Sam fucking Hyde and why Tucker Carlson was referencing him while making fun of Kinzinger. So I ended up explaining a /pol/ meme to one of my parents. Good job creating an adult environment lol

 

[Sekirodiealot]

Heh heh, some more takes from Biden's supporters (or at least, those who prefer him over Trump and similar politicians).

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These people are so far gone... it's like they're desperate to start ww3 just because all trump said was to not underestimate putin.

Also found this.

 

[Gehenna]

Will be interesting seeing what I come back to. I will be packing up my computer today and likely won't be unpacking it for quite some time.