Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
    694
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We had a single convoy get lost during the Iraq invasion and get captured by the Iraq army and it was a major scandal that stuck on the news for weeks.
Yeah. "during the Iraq Invasion". You have to put the qualifier on there to sweep everything that doesn't match the stories you are trying to tell under the rug.

We never had Abrams tanks drive aimlessly in the desert until they ran out of gas
Sure about that?

Also there was no mass censorship.
Sure about that?
Stop being disingenuous to deflect Based Russia's shortcomings. We had constant news coverage about Taliban working in the ANA, mass fraud, money mismanagement and soldiers being ambushed.

Stop being a know-it-all chickenshit about think you don't personally know a damn thing about. Stop playing war expert based on what you saw on TV.

Stop trying to suck Biden's pole and shitting on the American military because your hard for a new war overseas.

Are you even American or just assuming that stuff never reached American news outlets?
Have you ever done anything your life other than sit on your fat lazy ass watching CNN and thinking you know all about everything that happened in Iraq and Afghanistan?
 
That is total bullshit. Iraq and Afghanistan were full of lost equipment, massive fuck-ups and speed running into failures from start to finish. There was nothing that happened at the
end of either war that wasn't going on constantly from the start of those wars.
That equipment wasn't lost, in the same nature that we see several battle tanks ditched on roads. It was signed over to the local governments as it wasn't economically feasible to transport them back to the US or Europe instead of just buying replacements. Later that equipment was sold, stolen or abandoned by the local governments' forces. Is the Russian military responsible when Syrian government forces ditched T-90s and other Russian equipment due to poor understanding of doctrine?
 
Ok so apparently the kharkov blast was an Islander ballistic missiles which was going after the local headquarters, missed it by thaaat much, and by some miracle didn't kill anyone

 
That equipment wasn't lost, in the same nature that we see several battle tanks ditched on roads. It was signed over to the local governments as it wasn't economically feasible to transport them back to the US or Europe instead of just buying replacements. Later that equipment was sold, stolen or abandoned by the local governments' forces. Is the Russian military responsible when Syrian government forces ditched T-90s and other Russian equipment due to poor understanding of doctrine?
Sure General. You know more about Afghanistan and Iraq that anybody. Its a tragedy that your military genius has never been put to use in Washington.
 
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Yeah. "during the Iraq Invasion". You have to put the qualifier on there to sweep everything that doesn't match the stories you are trying to tell under the rug.


Sure about that?


Sure about that?


Stop being a know-it-all chickenshit about think you don't personally know a damn thing about. Stop playing war expert based on what you saw on TV.

Stop trying to suck Biden's pole and shitting on the American military because your hard for a new war overseas.


Have you ever done anything your life other than sit on your fat lazy ass watching CNN and thinking you know all about everything that happened in Iraq and Afghanistan?
A lot of butthurt from some dumb nigger that assumes I'm pro biden or CNN. Yeah I'm very sure the media covered the US's shortcomings. Should I spoon feed you American media criticizing US Foreign policy because you want to pretend it doesn't exist?
 
Ok so apparently the kharkov blast was an Islander ballistic missiles which was going after the local headquarters, missed it by thaaat much, and by some miracle didn't kill anyone

Now that's fucking lucky as hell. I'd be running to the nearest bar and/or church after surviving that.
 
Your entire argument is "The Russians can't be wrong because the United States did bad stuff too". The US leaving shit in Afghanistan to turn over to the ANA who then folded is a blunder, but not a blunder on a comparable scale of seeing your soldiers get separated then get fucked up by yokels with ATGMs on tiktok or whatever the latest social media fad is.
No its that every military involved an enormous amount of fuckups from the small to the large and that having a military that never fucks up or outruns its supplies lines or has random units wander off where they shouldn't isn't realistic, and the US military remains terrifyingly capable despite its also incredible capability for fuck ups and the Russians should be evaluated via the same framework
 
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The project is unfinished. Germany ditched the idea of putting a pipeline into service which was incomplete and under construction.

I would not be shocked in the least to discover that construction on Nordstream 2 is continuing in spite of the German decision.
you can bet on it, once the newscycle has moved and no one gives a shit anymore they gonna restart it. they didn't sink like 10 billion euro into it to just drop it for good PR.
 
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Ok so apparently the kharkov blast was an Islander ballistic missiles which was going after the local headquarters, missed it by thaaat much, and by some miracle didn't kill anyone

Yeah, I'll buy that for a dollar.
 
Vice is AIDS, but they aren't wrong. If this was the same show in a hypothetical war versus the US and Canada, the US would be a laughingstock, moreso.
I mean the US just had a massive military fuck up in the pulling out of Afghanistan. They got several service members killed, blew up some kids and left a ton of people behind. And to put a cherry on top they left the people they have been fighting for the last 2 decades billions in military hardware. The people responsible barely caught any shit for it at all.
 
The problem of Ukrainian soldiers in the rear seems to have become a real issue. The occupation forces are so thin it's down to sometimes a lone APC
This is the thing that proves Russia underestimated Ukraine, Putin probably got himself to think that because Crimea welcomed the annexation for the most part it meant that the same would apply to most of Ukraine to at least some extent. And this is almost certainly from southern or eastern Ukraine, the place that's supposed to be the most sympathetic to Russia.

Moral of the story, don't judge a single region and apply it to the whole country.
 
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