Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Given the size and direction of the Belarus' forces, looks like they won't be doing the smart thing and instead looking to go straight to Kyiv and just flatten it.


I am less than impressed with this tactic. Will it work? Probably. Will it also cost a hideous amount of men and materiel? Yes.
 
God would I hate to be on the ground as a Russian soldier in Kyiv two weeks from now. I'd be paranoid of every building with more than two stories.
 
Given the size and direction of the Belarus' forces, looks like they won't be doing the smart thing and instead looking to go straight to Kyiv and just flatten it.


I am less than impressed with this tactic. Will it work? Probably. Will it also cost a hideous amount of men and materiel? Yes.
The plan now is to cut off the head and hope that makes Ukraine cry uncle or they're going for the photo op of capturing the capital before they do something smart, doubt it tho.
 
No, you see, that's a different kind of bullshit. The opening line of the Declaration of Independence refers to "the thirteen united States of America", note the punctuation. "United" was not originally meant as a part of the national name, and for about 150 years after, the country was typically referred to as "these United States". The switch to a singular title only occurred during the tenure of Franklin Roosevelt, who used it alongside his policy of massive government expansion and power centralization to usher in the beginnings of the shitfuck we have now.
I thought I was pretty well versed in FDR's fuck ups but I didn't know that.
 
God would I hate to be on the ground as a Russian soldier in Kyiv two weeks from now. I'd be paranoid of every building with more than two stories.

Normal russian city fighting tactics would be to ensure there are no two storey buildings before they enter, which is why I'm hoping they encircle and hope the Ukrainians eventually surrender rather than a bloody city fight
 
Normal russian city fighting tactics would be to ensure there are no two storey buildings before they enter, which is why I'm hoping they encircle and hope the Ukrainians eventually surrender rather than a bloody city fight
Plenty of buildings still standing in Grozny by the end of it. They just weren't liveable anymore. :smug:
 
With the rate of supposed Russian armor abandonment (though they do a good job taking the Z's off first) and genuine Ukrainian FF incidents, is there any evidence that RU ground troops have fired a shot at something not a BRDM-2 war memorial?
 
Normal russian city fighting tactics would be to ensure there are no two storey buildings before they enter, which is why I'm hoping they encircle and hope the Ukrainians eventually surrender rather than a bloody city fight
Flattening cities wholesale in Ukraine had been the type of bad optics Russia has been avoiding, at least until the past day or two. That sort of discretion may be off the table now that sanctions have left Russia with little to lose in global standing. History shows, however, that Slavs (Ukranians included) are no strangers to fighting as partisans regardless of what the nominal government or treaties are.
 
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