Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Übertroon]

I love how as soon as the american userbase of any place discussing this wakes up the chat goes from quiet talks about how shitty it is for the civilians and what may or not be under attack to

GHOST OF KIEV
SAINT JAVELIN
TRUMPPPPP

I would suggest though that people don't take things too serious. This war is too much of a clusterfuck for someone to act insulted because someone shitposts or double post yet another tweet of a convoy burning to cinders

 

[marfusha]

Looks like Kharkov is still not captured nor surrounded. Russians block the city from north, east and south east according to prorussian channel.

 

[Animewasamistake]

I would suggest though that people don't take things too serious. This war is too much of a clusterfuck for someone to act insulted because someone shitposts or double post yet another tweet of a convoy burning to cinders

True, but i am a sperg

 

[AspieNextDoor]

It amazes me that it took only like 3 days for people to go from just supporting Ukraine to
"REEEEEEE BULLY ALL RUSKIES, DAT WILL SHOW LE HECKIN EVIL PUTINERINO!!!!!!!!!"


By the end of next week somewhere in the West there will be Kristallnacht directed towards Russians, I'm calling it now.

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

While I don't believe the opinions of we American commenters are in and of themselves superior simply because we're American, and while I too feel for the civilians whose opinions weren't sought in the matter by either side, I wonder when exactly it was that some of these commenters started caring about the innocent civilians... because I somewhat doubt they cared about the eight preceding years since the western-backed coup that resulted in a whole bloc of the country facing discrimination and violence to the point that a whole piece of the nation held a referendum to join Russia and two other regions saw the rise of an armed separatist movement which has declared independence due to the injustices they've been subject to by Kiev and it's various puppet rulers.

A lot of these people not as much on here I’d imagine but in general who care so much about the civilians probably thought the Ukraine was part of Russia last week and believe the war started last Thursday. It’s just their virtue signal of the week.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

The burning documents thing isn't really insidious. Standard practice pretty much everywhere is to burn everything before you pull out because you never know what might be used against you later. Just look at what happened in Afghanistan in the state department buildings. The Taliban ended up getting a huge amount of information I'm sure they've sold off since then.

After the war

- Hello, I've lost my arm in the war with Russia, can I get my disability pension as a member of military?
- Well, let me check... IT SEEMS YOU AREN'T ON THE LIST.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

He was supposedly an interior designer and killed 50 Chechian Rebels

His house looked like shit.

 

[Coccxys]

After the war

- Hello, I've lost my arm in the war with Russia, can I get my disability pension as a member of military?

- Oh so you fought against us, the "legitimate government" of Ukraine, did you? To the wall.

 

[Wy4M]

https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1499009889452146690

Rumoured that an all out assault will start soon on Kharkov.
If you know any Indian students in Kharkov.
(about 2 hours from now)

 

[Richardface]

Just the most epic lols

Adam Tooze (@adam_tooze)

Russian gas is flowing through pipelines in Ukraine to Germany at a record rate. https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/energieversorgung-transit-von-russischem-erdgas-durch-die-ukraine-laeuft-auf-rekordniveau/28119928.html

nitter.net

 

[Meat Target]

The burning documents thing isn't really insidious. Standard practice pretty much everywhere is to burn everything before you pull out because you never know what might be used against you later. Just look at what happened in Afghanistan in the state department buildings. The Taliban ended up getting a huge amount of information I'm sure they've sold off since then.

The Chinese embassy was doing that some time ago after getting evicted from their consulate in Houston.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

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Pictured here is two brabe ukrainian militiamen interrogating a russian spetsnaz responsible for covert ops in czechia.

They have been dubbed the avenging angels of Kyiev.
Or Kyievengers.

Last seconds of the brave leader Pavlo Walnutsovski, ex-Ukrainian Army, of Kiev civilian defense forces attempting to ambush a Russian armored column with homemade molotov cocktails. Those who knew him always said he had the strongest throw in the Ukrainian Army baseball team.

 

[ZMOT]

Damn son, what's happening there back in baguette-land? Last I heard there were some protests (solidarity with the Canadian honking), but nothing too serious.

there was that yellow vest thing, but like everything else after a while people got bored so the media found something else to bring the clicks (I think it went on longer than they were reporting, but I gotta admit I didn't really pay attention either).

Soon it'll be a crime to deny the Hoholocaust.

already is, depending where you live.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

- Oh so you fought against us, the "legitimate government" of Ukraine, did you? To the wall.

- No, I didn't, I am not on the list.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

When are they going to do videogames about this?

GSC game world might do one, I hope.

technically Warzone is about this it takes place in 2020 in ukraine, where there are free guns for the taking and everyone is in it for themselves. the city is surrounded and last man standing gets on the helo out of there.

 

[Manly_Brony]

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This is BBC Pidgin, right? I don't have a gay bone in my body but I would suck every dick in a 26 mile radius to get that job if it pays well. Imagine getting paid for what is basically trolling.

 

[Meat Target]

- No, I didn't, I am not on the list.

 

[Coccxys]

Just spoke with a Ukrainian immigrant I'm acquainted with for the first time since this all started. Her parents (and her) are Kiev natives. Apparently her parents are refusing to leave because her 70s year old father is the super at one of the residential tower blocks there and doesn't feel like he can just abandon it to not having anyone servicing it. Like I get the spirit and feeling of duty and all but that tower block is going to need more than a vacuum and lick of paint by the end of this.

 

[ZMOT]

Well yeah but you have to remember Yemen is just yet another backwards Middle Eastern shithole. Nobody cares if goat fuckers and "we must stone your sister to death for getting raped" get bombed back to the stone age. They never left the stone age. Obviously people care more about Europeans.

I'm tired of all the "whataboutism" regarding all this. "Bbbut muh USA bomb Pakis" is whataboutism.

no one cared about a corrupt eastern european shithole most people can't even find on a map until a week ago either...

 

[The Ugly One]

While I don't believe the opinions of we American commenters are in and of themselves superior simply because we're American, and while I too feel for the civilians whose opinions weren't sought in the matter by either side, I wonder when exactly it was that some of these commenters started caring about the innocent civilians... because I somewhat doubt they cared about the eight preceding years since the western-backed coup that resulted in a whole bloc of the country facing discrimination and violence to the point that a whole piece of the nation held a referendum to join Russia and two other regions saw the rise of an armed separatist movement which has declared independence due to the injustices they've been subject to by Kiev and it's various puppet rulers.

We talk about Trump because he took situations like this seriously, instead of just moralfagging about them. U.S. diplomacy from 1992-2016 was based on the premises:

1. It's different when we do it.
2. Governments we don't like have no legitimate interests.
3. Foreign policy tools that hurt US corporate interests are off the table.
4. Nothing the US does is an act of war.

I don't know what Trump would have done. I do know he kept us out of war for four years. I also know that he was under siege by the government and both parties for four years, which hindered his effectiveness. And I'm relatively certain that if Russia had demanded that Ukraine not be admitted to NATO, and a guarantee that no missiles would be stationed there that could hit Moscow, the Trump admin would not have responded by escalating with wargames designed to simulate an attack on Russia. He would have done, I don't know what, but something not mind-meltingly stupid. Underneath Trump's public persona was a deadly serious person who didn't treat reality like it was a made-for-Netflix movie plot, and I miss that.