Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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At first we all believed the Russian Military hype. That it was this extremely powerful military force that could challenge NATO on it's own. Now that they've invaded Ukraine we see the Russian Armed Forces for what it is. A paper bear, that crumbles because it never learned the mistakes of the Chechen Wars, let alone the Winter War. Yes, Russia is making mistakes that it made during the mother fucking Winter War. I'm honestly starting to understand why they took heavy casualties during World War II. The modern Russian Military in my opinion is just down right incompetent, this is a surprise to myself because I honestly thought Russia would perform better.

Russian Conscripts are undersupplied, vehicles have no fuel, VDV is being dropped without ground support into heavily defended areas and expected to take the place, they're using the same radio frequencies and are having their frequencies found. A notorious Chechen general was KIA, not to mention Ivan's losing a lot of equipment to the Ukrainians as we speak. Now that the curtain's been uncovered, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I fully believe to the surprise of everyone that the Russian Military is a gaggle fuck of incompetent retards.
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Just because they're tripping over their own dicks doesn't mean they aren't winning.
 
Ukraine isn't Iraq or some Taliban cavemen, they have enough firepower and armour to successfully invade Belarus and Moldova at the same time.
I don't wanna be one of those cringe apes but seriously "if it were the US invading" the casualties would be like 10% at most of the number of casualties Russia is admitting to
 
At first we all believed the Russian Military hype. That it was this extremely powerful military force that could challenge NATO on it's own. Now that they've invaded Ukraine we see the Russian Armed Forces for what it is. A paper bear, that crumbles because it never learned the mistakes of the Chechen Wars, let alone the Winter War. Yes, Russia is making mistakes that it made during the mother fucking Winter War. I'm honestly starting to understand why they took heavy casualties during World War II. The modern Russian Military in my opinion is just down right incompetent, this is a surprise to myself because I honestly thought Russia would perform better.

Russian Conscripts are undersupplied, vehicles have no fuel, VDV is being dropped without ground support into heavily defended areas and expected to take the place, they're using the same radio frequencies and are having their frequencies found. A notorious Chechen general was KIA, not to mention Ivan's losing a lot of equipment to the Ukrainians as we speak. Now that the curtain's been uncovered, I can say without a shadow of a doubt that I fully believe to the surprise of everyone that the Russian Military is a gaggle fuck of incompetent retards.
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I mean, reddit and twitter told me that the Ruskie military is shit so it must be true.

Ignoring the fact that 99 % of what is posted on social media is biased towards Ukraine.

You don't know shit like the rest of us.
 
The guy literally wrote a wall of text to say ABS Military is a reliable source. That would be like me writing 3 paragraphs telling you why CNN is not Propaganda. Shameful.

Are you still salty about the time I got you to debate with a madlibs of the Unibomber Manifesto?

Hey @Disheveled Human , remember that time a year ago when you were being such an argumentative retard in the Wuhan thread that I managed to get you to unwittingly "debate" with a literal madlibs of the Unibomber manifesto? Good times, good times.

Relax bro, it's just forum posting. Nothing we say here actually matters, we're just here to watch the show.
 
I had a conversation yesterday with somebody and they were like "We need to ban all Russians from the NHL". I asked why and they said "Because they are Russian". I countered that "I bet you thought we need to send all the Muslims back after 9/11" and I got that vacant NPC stare. It's become increasingly clear that after 9/11 the only problem a lot of people had was that it was a Republican president and not a Democrat making the decisions and that their distaste for xenophobia was only a tool of criticism but not an actual belief. Xenophobia is totally cool as long as their guy is doing it.
 
I really hope this is a LARP.
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I don't wanna be one of those cringe apes but seriously "if it were the US invading" the casualties would be like 10% at most of the number of casualties Russia is admitting to

If that were the case then the Ruskies would deploy 600.000-900.000 men and would use it's tactical nukes to destroy entire NATO divisions.

We are not talking about a WW2 style of fighting, we are talking about complete anhilation.
 
Dailymail has to have some of the worst propaganda out of all the "news" outlets. Claim Russia is losing so much equipment, so many Russian soldiers dead, Ukraine is winning! But everyday they have the map of Ukraine with Russian advance at the bottom of an article well below the headline, and everyday it shows Russians are advancing more and more.
NYP is up there too but there are trashier papers
I had a conversation yesterday with somebody and they were like "We need to ban all Russians from the NHL". I asked why and they said "Because they are Russian". I countered that "I bet you thought we need to send all the Muslims back after 9/11" and I got that vacant NPC stare. It's become increasingly clear that after 9/11 the only problem a lot of people had was that it was a Republican president and not a Democrat making the decisions and that their distaste for xenophobia was only a tool of criticism but not an actual belief. Xenophobia is totally cool as long as their guy is doing it.
That’s what’s annoying. These people were the same back then. The loudest to decry Islam and beat the war drum until two years later when it was racist to do so.
 
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I don't wanna be one of those cringe apes but seriously "if it were the US invading" the casualties would be like 10% at most of the number of casualties Russia is admitting to
The US intelligence is one of the driving factors on why Ukraine is holding out as well as they are.
 
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Uh, hate to break up the thrilling intellectual debates here but its probably worth mentioning that russia's foreign minister seems to have just abruptly changed the #based and #putinpilled narrative

Russia wants to negotiate a ceasefire. Someone got us involved, Lavrov turns​

"Russia has put forward several proposals for an immediate ceasefire," Russian negotiator Vladimir Medinsky said, according to Russia's TASS, asking whether the second round of talks would cover the ceasefire and the creation of humanitarian corridors.
"The Ukrainian delegation has already left Kiev. We expect him to arrive tomorrow (Thursday) in the morning, "Medinsky said, stressing that the two sides" agreed "on talks in Belarus," near the border with Poland."

The first round of talks took place on Monday, but the only conclusion that emerged was that the warring parties would still meet.
On Wednesday, Moscow also published a balance of losses for the first time since the invasion, according to which 498 Russian soldiers died in Ukraine and 1,597 were wounded. Ukrainian statistics show that Russia has lost more than 5,840 troops since the invasion began.

Lavrov: Someone got us involved​

"I do not rule out that someone wanted Russia to get bogged down in the Western artificial conflict in Ukraine," Lavrov said on Wednesday. "Western political analysts are now writing that it will allow Americans to untie their hands and work to detain China," the Russian foreign minister said.


"We offer a deal. It will ensure the legal rights of all nations living in Ukraine, which includes all national minorities, "said Lavrov. Moscow originally conditioned the talks on requiring the Ukrainian side to lay down its arms first.
In an interview with Al Jazeera television, he said that it is necessary to identify specific types of assault weapons that will never be deployed or manufactured in Ukraine.

According to him, Moscow is not demanding surrender in negotiations with Ukraine, but is proposing an agreement that will ensure the legal rights of all the nations of this country.
According to Reuters, he also said that Moscow remained determined to achieve the "demilitarization" of Ukraine, which the Kremlin justified by the invasion of the neighboring country.

So i guess Russia's extremely successful non-invasion to denazify the country is now just them being tragically tricked by mean ole man america and they just wanna stop Ukraine getting nukes and while they have had like zero casualties thus far and are laughing off sanctions they would kinda wanna stop being shot at....like right now plz...
 
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