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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Eh, I don't know that any country other than Singapore can really be pointing fingers. There is tons of crazy degeneracy shit in EU/US. Sure people Italy aren't injecting bathtub heroin until their limbs rot off, but not like california, london, and berlin aren't overrun with junkies. Not like Italy isn't overrun with cousin-fucking gypsies. And lets not get into Spain and Portugal (because no one cares). Not like San Fransico isn't over run with diseased faggots and the state made it no longer crime to knowingly pozz negholes.
Plus remember that Russians are slavs, so much like niggers its unfair to hold them to the same standards of behavior as actual humans
And that's nothing compared to what's going on in Russia. Human trafficking, mass abortions and alcohol abuse, monopolies that were once enforced by the mafia now enforced by Putin's state, take every problem in the west right now, and multiply it by eleven. Back in the 90s, if you tried to set up a business to compete with Daddy's Little Communist Princess and her monopoly, the mob will come after you. Now, the state will, since Putin helped the oligarchs kek the Russian people. You don't need the mob when you have the state.

Its not a scam for right-wing westerners. Its a traditionalist stance to appeal to the 'old guard' at home. Putin doesn't give a fuck about the non-Russian world except as dunces to exploit, everything he does is with a domestic audience in mind. And every leader is just a figurehead for the nobility, which is what the oligarchs are for Russia in all but hereditable titles.
It is a scam. The only old guard at home are ex-Commies from the USSR era; people who supported leftists in the US and who dream of a restored Soviet Empire. The majority of their people are godless alcoholics who kill their children in the womb. And Putin is slowly replacing them with Muslim immigrants. It's the same crap in the west, except worse. And him whining about Nazis in Ukraine goes to show that it's just the same here in the West; if you hate someone, you call them Nazis.

I'm not saying Putin is a good leader, just a strong one who upto this point has played the US & EU like a fiddle by repeatedly showing the failure of the EU (and US) to live up to their purported principals when there is any risk involved. He had no real reason to expect a different reaction this time, and a reminder that up til this weekend, things were on track to be a repeat of 2014: Toothless sanctions, meaningless UN resolutions, more territory that is defacto Russia and appointing another cutie as the new territory's Attorney General.
If he was strong, he'd have broken the oligarchs and fixed the economy. Just as Peter the Great forced the boyars to agree to his reforms. Putin instead made the oligarchs into friends of the state, and made the state their bitch so they can kek the Russian people to the ground and suck the bone marrow out of the Russian economy, which is why a nation that should be making as much money as America and China is making less money per year than New York State.

This right here is where Putin stops being an entertaining strongman for country that can only be ruled by strongmen and starts being legit dangerous. Putin has his eyes on all Soviet Satellites and reforming the USSR in all but name.
Any good western traditionalist would want all Communists gone. Putin and his cronies want the USSR back. They simp for the USSR and Stalin, something no right-winger in their right mind would ever do. Stalin's half the reason why Ukraine will never want be a part of Russia ever again, and his bumbling (allying with Hitler in 1939 and helping him take Poland, his stupid tactical decisions that gave the Nazis the upper hand during the early years of Operation Barbarossa) gave Hitler a free hand in Eastern Europe and nearly led to Russia's downfall. If it wasn't for western support and supplies, Russia would have collapsed.
 
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Guys! Guys! We have some terrible news to report.

EA is removing Russian teams from its FIFA and NHL games​

The changes will impact NHL 22, FIFA 22, FIFA Online, and FIFA Mobile

Electronic Arts has announced that it’s in the process of removing both Russian national teams and the country’s professional clubs from some of its biggest sports games.

That will include NHL 22, FIFA 22, FIFA Online, and FIFA Mobile; it’s not clear when the teams will be pulled from the game, but the publisher says that it has “initiated processes” for their removal. EA says that the decision was made “in line with our partners at FIFA and UEFA,” as well as the IIHF. Those governing bodies — which manage global and European soccer and international hockey, respectively — recently banned Russian teams from all competitions “until further notice.” In addition to the Russian teams, NHL 22 will also be removing Belarusian clubs as well. The decision does not appear to impact the presence of Russian players in either sport.

“EA Sports stands in solidarity with the Ukrainian people and like so many other voices across the world of football, calls for peace and an end to the invasion of Ukraine,” the company said in its statement. In addition to removing teams, EA says that it is “actively evaluating related changes to other areas of our games.” EA joins other tech companies, including Apple, Facebook, and YouTube, in either altering or removing their services in relation to the Russian invasion.

This isn’t the first time EA has altered its sports games due to real-world events. In 2020, it was forced to change the offensive name of the now-Washington Commanders in Madden, and last year, it removed Las Vegas Raiders coach Jon Gruden from the game following an email scandal.

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This is some gay virtue signaling shit. Nigga if you pull the Russian teams from the game how am I supposed to get revenge for Ukraine by using Messi to destroy the Russian National team in the world championship?
 
America never invaded Japan, that's what the nukes were for.

"A study done for Secretary of War Henry Stimson's staff by William Shockley estimated that invading Japan would cost 1.7–4 million American casualties, including 400,000–800,000 fatalities, and five to ten million Japanese fatalities. The key assumption was large-scale participation by civilians in the defense of Japan."


Morbid fact: "During World War II, 1,506,000 Purple Heart medals were manufactured, many in anticipation of the estimated casualties resulting from the planned Allied invasion of Japan. By the end of the war, even accounting for medals lost, stolen or wasted, nearly 500,000 remained. To the present date, total combined American military casualties of the seventy years following the end of World War II—including the Korean and Vietnam Wars—have not exceeded that number."

I mean this time last week we were all clowning on the little old ladies training with wooden guns, but invading an ethnically homogenous nation where little old ladies are drilling to murder GIs with awls, it's ugly.

Even the Japs who weren't training to kill our boys were willing to commit suicide rather than be captured.


It would have been a meat grinder.
People keep bitching that the US and the rest of the world isn't running in like a bunch of cowboys to destroy Russia. Dude, we live in a time where if one country is being a cunt, all the other countries can just flip a switch to cut them off and just wait for them to starve.
 
This is some gay virtue signaling shit. Nigga if you pull the Russian teams from the game how am I supposed to get revenge for Ukraine by using Messi to destroy the Russian National team in the world championship?
Reminds me of when Soul Calibur IV removed samurai character Mitsurugi from the Korean version of the game because of some historical problems the Koreans had with samurai. Never mind that there are Korean characters in the game, and if you hate the samurai, you can have the Korean characters beat the samurai up in the game.

People keep bitching that the US and the rest of the world isn't running in like a bunch of cowboys to destroy Russia. Dude, we live in a time where if one country is being a cunt, all the other countries can just flip a switch to cut them off and just wait for them to starve.
Basically, yes. But the problem is, Putin and his rich buddies will have enough food to weather the bad days, while the common people starve first.
 
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makes the whole US wanting to get zelensky out of the Ukraine, seem soo suspect. Have the current guy who wanted to investigate the current POTUS son for corruption flee, oh hey looks like we made a deal and put former puppet back in power.

Who is wanting regime change here?
Zelensky did not have an interest in investigating Hunter Biden, it was Trump asking him to do so, if he had been interested in doing so it would have happened during the Trump Admin, Ukraine had other issues it was preoccupied with at the time.
 
Basically, yes. But the problem is, Putin and his rich buddies will have enough food to weather the bad days, while the common people starve first.
True, but his army is only slightly above a common person and they have families among those common people. They're already demoralized by the fact that this pissant country didn't fold immediately and coming to term with the fact that their benevolent leader is a delusional fuck.
 
True, but his army is only slightly above a common person and they have families among those common people. They're already demoralized by the fact that this pissant country didn't fold immediately and coming to term with the fact that their benevolent leader is a delusional fuck.
Hopefully, that will lead to the Russian army telling Putin to step down. Best-case scenario overall.
 
People keep bitching that the US and the rest of the world isn't running in like a bunch of cowboys to destroy Russia. Dude, we live in a time where if one country is being a cunt, all the other countries can just flip a switch to cut them off and just wait for them to starve.

The problem is that no one flips the switch.
I've come around a bit since the weekend; I initially thought we were going to get a repeat of 2014, where Russia was allowed to take Crimea, and the only EU response would be to pass the non-binding UN resolution 2725 that would call Putin a 'very bad person. Just the worst'.
They are actually going after their banking and shipping weapons.
 

Stalker 2 development paused: 'We are striving to help our employees and their families to survive'​

Kyiv-based studio GSC Game World says it is focused right now on helping employees and their families survive the Russian invasion.


Stalker 2 studio GSC Game World was one of the first to speak out against the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and to call for financial aid for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Today the studio released a brief video emphasizing the increasing danger in the country, which has forced it to move the development of Stalker 2 "to the sidelines" while it focuses on protecting its employees and their families.

The video begins with a look inside GSC's motion capture studio, recorded last week as part of a planned showcase of mocap work for Stalker 2 cutscenes. "The previous week was ages ago," the video says, reflecting how quickly and dramatically the situation changed on February 24, when Russia invaded.

"This video is our answer to 'How are you guys?' question," it continues. "Now we are striving to help our employees and their families to survive. The game development shifted to the sidelines. But we will definitely continue. After the victory."

It's a poignant ending to a video that's difficult to watch, particularly given the increasingly dire situation inside Ukraine. No mention is made of Stalker 2, which was slated to come out on December 8, but of course there isn't: Russian troops are massing outside of Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine and GSC Game World's home city, which along with other Ukrainian cities is coming under increasingly heavy bombardment, and I am quite confident that release dates are the last thing on anyone's mind right now. I've reached out to GSC Game World to ask "the most common question"—are you guys okay?—and will update if I receive a reply

 
Hopefully, that will lead to the Russian army telling Putin to step down. Best-case scenario overall.
That is a better end than the other options.

I guess this shouldn’t be too surprising because the Russians often struggled in offensive wars. Look at the winter war for example. Sure they got some concessions but they underperformed. Perhaps the greatest help the Soviet’s had against the Germans was western logistical support, in particular the trucks. This freed them up to focus on tank production. Furthermore, the Germans were actively killing them and invading them. People tend to be more motivated when their own families and homes are at stake, especially when their leadership is questionable. I know I personally wouldn’t be fighting as hard to get some land from some small country I didn’t give a fuck about but I’d fight my ass off against someone that wipes out entire villages.

If the EU does get involved, hopefully it doesn’t, they shouldn’t go into Russia itself or make war with the Russian people. Especially if they do well in the field in Ukraine. Attacking Russia could be a great motivator and could swing the pendulum back. And could prolong the war. Nothing motivates Russians quite like an enemy invasion.

My fear is that it escalates, the EU/NATO does well, then decides to invade Russia. Although nuclear deterrence should put an end to that, but I don’t trust the EU to be smart especially if they’re high on their own farts.
 
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That is a better end than the other options.

I guess this shouldn’t be too surprising because the Russians often struggled in offensive wars. Look at the winter war for example. Sure they got some concessions but they underperformed. Perhaps the greatest help the Soviet’s had against the Germans was western logistical support, in particular the trucks. This freed them up to focus on tank production. Furthermore, the Germans were actively killing them and invading them. People tend to be more motivated when their own families and homes are at stake, especially when their leadership is questionable. I know I personally wouldn’t be fighting as hard to get some land from some small country I didn’t give a fuck about but I’d fight my ass off against someone that wipes out entire villages.

If the EU does get involved, hopefully it doesn’t, they don’t go into Russia itself or make war with the Russian people. Especially if they do well in the field in Ukraine. Attacking Russia could be a great motivator and could swing the pendulum back.

Strikes against a nuclear power will never happen. There is also unlikely to be need to do so; right now if EU wanted to put a lot of hurt on Russia, they have something like 8 miles of Russian armor currently inside Ukraine to capture and destroy.

The only potential escalation vector goes something like:
Russian artillery deployed on Russian soil is used to attack troops pushing the Russians back from Ukraine. And I mean credible attacks, not lobbing some shells in their direction as a "ok you've made you're point, that's far enough". The EU forces launch strikes on the artillery, which is viewed as an attack, and missiles fly.
Very likely, however, the Russian general told to fire on EU troops in Ukraine will refuse to obey the order, recognizing the escalation that would result.
 
That is a better end than the other options.

I guess this shouldn’t be too surprising because the Russians often struggled in offensive wars. Look at the winter war for example. Sure they got some concessions but they underperformed. Perhaps the greatest help the Soviet’s had against the Germans was western logistical support, in particular the trucks. This freed them up to focus on tank production. Furthermore, the Germans were actively killing them and invading them. People tend to be more motivated when their own families and homes are at stake, especially when their leadership is questionable. I know I personally wouldn’t be fighting as hard to get some land from some small country I didn’t give a fuck about but I’d fight my ass off against someone that wipes out entire villages.

If the EU does get involved, hopefully it doesn’t, they shouldn’t go into Russia itself or make war with the Russian people. Especially if they do well in the field in Ukraine. Attacking Russia could be a great motivator and could swing the pendulum back. And could prolong the war. Nothing motivates Russians quite like an enemy invasion.

My fear is that it escalates, the EU/NATO does well, then decides to invade Russia. Although nuclear deterrence should put an end to that, but I don’t trust the EU to be smart especially if they’re high on their own farts.
The only reason the commies accomplished ANYTHING in WWII was because the US was providing everything they required including the design of the t-34 family which the Soviets were allowed to build so it would look like they weren't completely useless. It was the fuckton of Studebaker trucks that beat back the nazis. All those millions of peasants weren't going to get anywhere walking. Everything else - food, bullets, gas, boots and clothes, tires, artillery, everything, was being delivered to them.
 
The very idea that the nukes Russia have might not be as powerful as we thought, if they still exist at all, is a scary thing to think about considering the implications it would have on the global scale. I don't even want to think about it because it will change everything we know of in terms of diplomacy and politics

Also regarding my example of sanction-hit countries, I just remembered those countries only managed to survive by circumventing the sanctions by trading with, you guess it, Russia and China. With Russia's economy tanking, this will also affects those countries as well. No wonder China is pushin for peace, they can't afford to lose Russia as an ally
Number or quality of Russian nuclear arsenal isn't the most import. Most important is: if NATO has real options to neutralize them before invasion on Russia starts?

One thing I'm pretty sure, that Russia didn't have 6200 nukes like they told. This is absurdally huge number and no one will belive that all of them are ready to launch.

But the problem is, Putin and his rich buddies will have enough food to weather the bad days, while the common people starve first.

Point is that common Russians before death will kill their leaders. For food.
 
Number or quality of Russian nuclear arsenal isn't the most import. Most important is: if NATO has real options to neutralize them before invasion on Russia starts?

One thing I'm pretty sure, that Russia didn't have 6200 nukes like they told. This is absurdally huge number and no one will belive that all of them are ready to launch.



Point is that common Russians before death will kill their leaders. For food.
Putin should remove himself from the premises, and save everyone the trouble.
 
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Stalker 2 development paused: 'We are striving to help our employees and their families to survive'​

Kyiv-based studio GSC Game World says it is focused right now on helping employees and their families survive the Russian invasion.


Stalker 2 studio GSC Game World was one of the first to speak out against the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and to call for financial aid for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Today the studio released a brief video emphasizing the increasing danger in the country, which has forced it to move the development of Stalker 2 "to the sidelines" while it focuses on protecting its employees and their families.

The video begins with a look inside GSC's motion capture studio, recorded last week as part of a planned showcase of mocap work for Stalker 2 cutscenes. "The previous week was ages ago," the video says, reflecting how quickly and dramatically the situation changed on February 24, when Russia invaded.

"This video is our answer to 'How are you guys?' question," it continues. "Now we are striving to help our employees and their families to survive. The game development shifted to the sidelines. But we will definitely continue. After the victory."

It's a poignant ending to a video that's difficult to watch, particularly given the increasingly dire situation inside Ukraine. No mention is made of Stalker 2, which was slated to come out on December 8, but of course there isn't: Russian troops are massing outside of Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine and GSC Game World's home city, which along with other Ukrainian cities is coming under increasingly heavy bombardment, and I am quite confident that release dates are the last thing on anyone's mind right now. I've reached out to GSC Game World to ask "the most common question"—are you guys okay?—and will update if I receive a reply

Goddamn it
 
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