Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Yeah but why waste the effort to rule over a bunch of failed Romanians if there's no useful resources to be had?

Well I can think of one reason Putin wants Moldova.

Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic - Wikipedia

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[MindYourSeabiscuits]

I don't know why people keep saying Putin just decided to invade Ukraine out of nowhere and didn't even talk.

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Most people think this conflict started last Thursday and have no clue it’s been going on since 2014 and that the roots of the conflict go back to the breakup of the Soviet Union. They really think “and then all the sudden Putin invaded the Ukraine for no reason at all”

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Finally, some good fucking propaganda

 

[The Ugly One]

Why are companies going "We're going to erase the mention that Russia exists, but support Ukraine all the way". Have they never thought of the long-term consequences like creating terrorists and actual racism? Why care when it's a foreign war in the first war in the first place? It's not even on their homeland.
I only 'care' the tiniest bit about this foreign war, and that is checking here just in case things are about go south before someone drags everyone in this war or something.

Because the USA just weaponized SWIFT and declared a whole bunch of stuff to now be export-controlled, so nobody wants to piss off Uncle Sam right now. Or, for that matter, Google.

 

[Breadbassket]

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[Starscreams Cape]

The facts
Are plain: the US fucked Russia and provoked this.

Vladimir Pozner: How the United States Created Vladimir Putin

On September 27, 2018, Yale's Program in Russian, East European and Eurasian Studies, and the Poynter Fellowship for Journalism hosted Vladimir Pozner, the a...

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Deny reality at your peril.

If you want to be cynical then they appear to have played Russia like a fiddle. At not much cost the West has forced Russia to ruin her own economy for at least a few years and exposed her armed forces as wanting at best. All without firing a shot.

 

[JambledUpWords]

In case you’re wondering how Moviebob views this war

 

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On Tuesday morning, “journalist” Daria Kaleniuk confronted British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, demanding NATO enters the war in Ukraine, despite massive public objections to Western nations becoming involved.



“You’re coming to Poland – you’re not coming to Kyiv, Prime Minister. You’re not coming to Lviv,” said Kaleniuk, in remarks being lauded by the international press.

“Because you are afraid. Because NATO is not willing to defend. Because NATO is afraid of World War 3 – but it has already started.”

Kaleniuk, however, is scarcely the “journalist” Western media outlets are portraying. Instead, The National Pulse can reveal, Kaleniuk is a long-time political activist recently used in the Joe Biden 2020 campaign. Additionally, Kaleniuk serves as a World Economic Forum (WEF) Global Young Leader.



According to Transparency International's Corruption Perceptions Index (a scale of least to most corrupt nations), Ukraine ranked 122nd out of 180 countries in 2021, the second most corrupt in Europe, ahead of Russia.

The 'Crying Journalist' Demanding Boris Drags Britain to War is a Biden-Linked World Economic Forum Global Leader.

On Tuesday morning, “journalist” Daria Kaleniuk confronted British Prime Minister Boris Johnson, demanding NATO enters the war in Ukraine, despite massive public objections to Western nations becoming involved. Kaleniuk, however, is scarcely the “journalist” Western media outlets are portraying...

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[Bananadana]

Interesting thread (archive) from a guy who seems to have had a decent amount of experience in the Army with trucks.
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As a tl;dr, he explains that you need to move a military truck once a month, to make sure there's no problems with tire inflation or lines leaking, stuff like that. Another concern is that if you leave a tire out in the sun for too long (like, for a few months) the tire - more specifically, the side walls - rot and the tire will rip itself apart if you put it on low pressure for any significant distance. He uses a photo of an abandoned Pantsir in the mud from a couple days ago to illustrate this:

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His personal guess is that this Pantsir hadn't been moved in about a year before it was sent to the front. The conclusion he draws from this is that if the Russian Army couldn't be arsed to move a vehicle as expensive/important as a Pantsir, they definitely haven't moved their regular trucks, and thus the Russians literally cannot go offroad while the ground is muddy. The tires on their vehicles will fail and they'll have to abandon them. As it happens, Ukraine had a mild winter so they're sorta beginning to enter rasputitsa right now.

The implications of this, if everything is what he says it to be, is that the Ukrainians would hypothetically be able to start going Finn mode and begin enveloping and destroying Russian convoys... with the one exception that this wouldn't work in southern Ukraine or Crimea, since it's drier there.

That would explain why they make these "please bomb me daddy" 65km long, semi-static convoys. That seems risky.
Maybe they really cant just take any shit-tier eastern european country road but need to stick to decently big, paved streets that are not completely bombed to shit.

 

[Gender Fluids BLEVE]

How the FUCK do their trains look nicer than our trains in America.

What do we have way too much of, and they have almost none of?

 

[Richardface]

Well I can think of one reason Putin wants Moldova.

Moldavian Soviet Socialist Republic - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah the theory that Putin is a hardcore Paradox fan keeps getting support. He's trying to clean up bordergore

 

[Velvet Glove Iron Fist]

 

[Wrestlemania]

I hope this is fucking true! hahahaha

China asked Russia to delay Ukraine invasion until after Olympics -NY…

archived 3 Mar 2022 00:34:32 UTC

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[Meat Target]

In case you’re wondering how Moviebob views this war
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The day I ask for that fat fascist dunce's input is the day I eat buckshot.

 

[Gay_nig_from_outer_space]

Someone isn't aware of modern active protection systems. Russia is supposed to have Arena to deal with this but I guess they left it in their other pair of pants.

Israel successfully deployed Trophy during Operation Protective Edge in 2014. The US has 4 armored brigades of Abrams equipped with the system.

Your stronkian bullshit is almost a decade out of date. Sorry.

I don't know how many Vatnik tanks are equipped with APS, but the reason I didn't bring it up is because APS is effective but not fool proof in the slightest. The T-14 apparently has a mortar radar-like system but for AT weapons that is synched with the AI turret but since Russia has only 10 T-14's at most it's not relevant to the discussion.

 

[bread n circuses]

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Massie is the most consistently lolbert member of congress on foreign wars. Every time there’s some 500-1 vote in the house on some new aggressive expansionist bullshit it’s him. Guy has balls.

 

[Marchesa of the Vast]

I don't know about you, but I can't stand all the Zelensky dicksucking.

I'm too cynical for this hero shit.

What? You're not gung ho for the Ukrainian Trudeau that's emptied the prisons and throwing every civilian he can between him and Putin?

Well fancy that.

 

[Coccxys]

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Ooh it's been a while since we had a good olde fashioned Mccarthy witch trial.

 

[Sammich]

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Never have i been more proud of Massie, dude will not be bowed from his beliefs. And he is right, it's gonna lead to russian people getting fucked over and of course those russians are gonna blame the US.

 

[The Bovinian Derivative]

From r/Ukraine
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I don't know how much of it is actually real, but why not just take these students, and if they are students they probably have passports, and just put them on the first plane to their country of origin or just drop them at the embassy and let them sort it out?