Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Phillip Green]

I dont know...on the first day 5 or 6 vehicles and a few hundred men tried to take kharkov...a city of millions of people.

I'm not sure if they were told the locals would rise up or if it's just bad planning. Nothing Russia did in the first days made sense...I'm inclined to believe they fucked up.

All of this assumes what you think you know happened on day one actually happened. And given that almost all of the information we're seeing is coming from larping OSINT faggots or direct from the Ukraine government's psyops and propaganda arms, I have doubts on anyone's claims to know the current situation or the strategic thinking in the Kremlin.

Were Russian operations near Kharkov an optimistic attempt to liberate the city with a handful of troops? Was it a scouting operation? Were people confusing Ukrainian units for Russian ones and misreporting an attack? Was the whole incident completely fabricated? That first 24 hours news cycle was wild man, and it's not like twitter idiots post a corrections section.

Not saying you're wrong, and we're all just speculating here. But bottom line is the evidence you're using to make strategic assumptions is not reliable. I mean, how many failed mass paratroop drops are we up to? 8? 12?

It's not unreasonable to think that the Russians were hoping for far less resistance than what they got, and that the Ukrainians are putting up a better fight than they expected. I also suspect the Russians are experiencing logistics issues slowing them down. It's also likely that their rules of engagement are loosening as they have to come to terms with resisting urban centers. However, even these tentative statements are based on garbage data.

None of us know what the Russians are actually doing on the ground. I suspect the *Russians* may not know what they're doing on the ground, lol.

 

[Coccxys]

Also, I think other countries (especially Germany), should pay their fair share into NATO,

Which is exactly why NATO should leave Ukraine to it. If NATO for some dumb reason got involved then Ukraine got the benefits of membership (other countries coming to save your ass) without any of the responsibilities (properly funding your military, being ready to defend other people's asses).

Why would anyone join and take part if they knew NATO would come running anyway if the Russians attacked? It would be like an insurance company that pays out for everyone whether you have a policy with them or not, why would anyone actually pay for a policy with them?

 

[Retink]

On the topic of NATO and trusting globohomo, from today's MATI:

 

[Kovacs Walter]

I think Coke centralizes the production of the syrup that bottlers use to make Coke. So not sure what they could do, but last time a Coca-cola branch got cut off due to war was Coca-Cola Deutchsland in WW2 and they ended up inventing Fanta.

Reminds me of this...

 

[Marley Rathbone]

Fuck my bed is calling but here we are:

Ukrainian Defence Minister: "Victory is imminent"​

Ukrainian Defence Minister: “Victory is imminent”

Ukrainian Defence Minister Oleksiy Reznikov is convinced that a breakthrough in the Russian-Ukrainian war is coming, and that victory for Ukraine is imminent.

www.pravda.com.ua

This is totally insane, I think it was only two weeks ago I was glued to another thread because of the "bouncy castle insurrection" then last night it was "out of control nuclear reaction we are all going to die" and now (the) Ukraine has snatched victory out of the jaws of defeat.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

make us, whore.

Ooh we’re flirting! My he-pussy is so wet right now. Fill me up with your love juice honey

 

[Dave_Ph]

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McGregor has been right on everything.

 

[ditto]

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The media critter immediately attacks the general personally.
"Russians are making gains"
"Well you just don't like president seinfeld"

WAR! WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR!?

Sorry but Tolstoy is now cancelled.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

I don't think the hyper positive "were totally winning" propaganda is as good an idea as they think. True you don't want your military and civilians thinking they're screwed but the super positivity has two major problems

1. The army and civilians think twice before taking super risky/suicidal actions, after all you're winning why would you throw your life away?

2. A lot of the boots on the ground know it's not going anywhere near that good so lose all faith in what they are being told. Ever been in a failing company where everyone knows it's failing but they keep trotting out the CEO to give big motivational speeches about how well the company is doing? Yeah, that's when you start updating your CV.

The messaging needs to be positive but realistic.

they're only winning in the english sphere, the propaganda in the native tongue is a lot more honest. thats the whole silly point about this, it doesn't matter what we think so they can lie all they want.

 

[Übertroon]

So what part of the army would this uniform be from? Are they throwing cops into the front now?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Once they're done sacking Moscow they're going to march west and wipe out every NATO nation for their betrayal. Ukraine world order 2022!

It would be peak lol if Ukraine decided to fuck over the EU for trying to use them as cannon fodder using all those guns the EU gave them.

 

[JambledUpWords]

In light of so many things that are Russian getting canceled, I hope this composer doesn’t. Prokofiev is one of my favorite Russian composers

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Ooh we’re flirting! My he-pussy is so wet right now. Fill me up with your love juice honey

lorne_a_20014 (10/02/07 10:18:31 PM): are you anxious to have my penis in you?

 

[6MillionCoofs]

Somebody might have posted it already but wtf

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I like that British Conservatism - routinely labelled as Nazism and extreme - is suddenly agreeable.

Though considering who we are currentky arming I should not be surprised.

 

[mudwogg]

This is irrelevant to the thread but for anyone interested in the US growing pains of getting mechanized The Chieftain covers it in this video and the follow-up video as part of the overall development of armored doctrine.

>Russia
>lacking fuel
It's their logistics that are retarded but even then I think all of the claims of abandoned armor littered mysteriously throughout Ukraine are mostly false. As it turns out, a vehicle in a convoy can be refueled from another vehicle in that same convoy and abandoning armor is sacrilege, at least in most militaries.

Numerous of those abandoned vehicles were Ukrainian. Most outsiders don't pay attention to details, such as the digital camo used on their vehicles. For some reason, the videos uploaded by the Taliban last year were of better quality (and consistent) than many of the ones by the Ukrainians. A few of the Ukrainian vids were actually from the Russian-side but with deliberately lowered quality to hide some details. Much of their propaganda is aimed towards dumbass westerners.

 

[3-2-1836]

So what part of the army would this uniform be from? Are they throwing cops into the front now?
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That's a Russian, he has Saint George ribbons on his helmet.

 

[Dave_Ph]

Tucker must have forgotten to announce he's taking a long weekend.

 

[76LD910]

The based Asians who run my local liquor store aren't complying with the gay sanctions. Just bought a bottle of Stoli and toasting to my nigga Vlad. May the road rise to meet you, comrade!

Which country are you from and what sanctions are they not complying with exactly ?

Even if their in a place that has banned Russian food/drink imports it's not like they can't sell what they've already got in stock.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Because this website started to document Chris Chan and those who are weird on the internet, you guys have Reddit, twatter, Facebook, discord, whatever billion other fucking websites like Ihavenevertouchedavagina.incel to politically sperg
.
Remember one thread got so heated the fbi contacted our dear feeder.
I think in order to be a member of the farms you have to demonstrate a decent knowledge of one lolcow within a month and not just typing “Julayyy!”
All this politics shit needs to get off the fucking farms.

you sound like that tranny that whined about Sonic's Blue arms. last i heard that crazy bitch was in an insane asylum

 

[mr.moon1488]

So what part of the army would this uniform be from? Are they throwing cops into the front now?
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Could be the police, but if I had to guess it's Redditor that bought the cheapest gear he could find on eBay and went over. Police are pretty retarded when it comes to tactical shit, but I don't know of many who would be using a flick, but also have mag pouches on the molly webbing on their plate carrier/vest. Granted that could be an assault pack or something he's laying on and not just a flick, but that would mean he only had two mag pouches on him which is pretty dumb too.