Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[mate]

I feel bad for the children who had to die because of a bunch of separatists terrorists decided to take over parts of a sovereign country

Well, why did they have to fight for separatism? Why not just have a referendum? If you think that Ukraine deserves the right to self-determination then why not the Donbass?

As you quoted two people I'm not sure which of your statements are aimed at me, but I'll guess the following is:

Donettes is part of Ukraine but please tell me how because they speak Russian they are totally different ethnic group

Donetsk is only technically a part of Ukraine now. It has been administered and defended by the separatists for eight years, rightly or wrongly. I never said they are a different ethnic group. You don't need to be a different ethnic group to be oppressed. That guy is no less crucified because he is ethnically the same as the guys who nailed him down.

 

[Jebu Nagazi]

Literally everyone is doing a war crime. You basically cannot fight a war of roughly evenly matched sides without the gloves coning off. The whole point of the various war crime laws was so that after the fact they can prosecute the nominated bad guy (Russia) for something.

THIS!!!
The only ones not commited WARCRIMES is the ones that been very good at masqurading their warcrimes with help of media & propaganda!

A WAR without warcrime is like a untouched GOAT in the middle of a gang of horny middle easterners...

 

[Borscht]

So what are the odds that 90% of Russian services getting 'removed' being down to the ruble crashing and nobody wanting to devalue their services?

Microsoft don't want their expensive 'teams' packages to be sold for 1/4 the price etc. Better to pull the entire services outright.

Not insignificant. Steam never explained why it banhammered ALL of Russian payment systems, previously you could buy games by transferring funds from your cellphone plan if you like (I am not kidding), let alone Mir, Visa, Mastercard, Paypal, etc. - so it just closed shop without making any political statements. Same with Nintendo.

Same with IKEA. They never said "Eat shit Russians, we're out", they said "we are closing the doors for three months and apologize for the inconvenience".

Same with many other companies. The megacorps are most likely waiting for the dust to settle before deciding on how to proceed with the hitherto-unheard of situation of an entire country being cancelled.

 

[Freshly Baked Socks]

... and crude will push $200/barrel before US shale production can bring prices back down.

Shhh! There autists here who think this is about de-nazifying ukraine.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

No matter what stance you have in the conflict, surely knowing that trannies are being stopped at the border from fleeing because they're not women is the sort of heartwarming news that evens out the shots of people getting turned to raw hamburger paste.

 

[Hackallier]

Following caption is possibly Russian propaganda, I can't translate the speech, so I'll quote it a such:

footage of ukrainian police escorting people, presumably the rich (the angry civilians are saying as much), out of kharkov & threatening other people to clear the road

 

[Bungus Scrungus]

Some Youtubers that I watched roughly a month ago, made a great point about 20 to 30 years from now, people who grew up watching Vausch and Fuentes and Molymeme and Styx and Sargon will be in the halls of Congress or even in the White House.

Vausch iirc wants to run for politicial office and AOC will look like a wise abuela by then.

First, you're assuming those people won't grow out of it. Second, you're assuming any of these pundits who want to run for it, will in fact do so; ignoring the fact they have no convictions and would only say that to scam money out of people and say "maybe next time "

 

[Matt Damon]

Shhh! There autists here who think this is about de-nazifying ukraine.

I ask for the millionth time, where are these people?

 

[ItCouldBeWorse]

footage of ukrainian police escorting people, presumably the rich (the angry civilians are saying as much), out of kharkov & threatening other people to clear the road

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Looking at those cars, it's all expensive ones like BMW's, Porsche's etc. So that gives some merit to the caption.

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

Some Youtubers that I watched roughly a month ago, made a great point about 20 to 30 years from now, people who grew up watching Vausch and Fuentes and Molymeme and Styx and Sargon will be in the halls of Congress or even in the White House.

Vausch iirc wants to run for politicial office and AOC will look like a wise abuela by then.

YouTubers are just the Rush Limbaughs and such of <current year>. Honestly no less or more credible or clownish.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

He didn't have a justification like 9/11? By that you mean an emotive attack on his civilians, I guess? I beg to differ, soyim. They have had several incidents like that. The ongoing war in the Donbass has been very, very emotive to our Russian friends. Just because the atrocities there haven't been plastered all over our media it doesn't mean that they aren't ubiquitous in the Russian speaking world. People want redress for these injustices.

Russians have all seen the picture of Polina Sladkaya, the first child casualty of the Donbass rebellion. Killed by Ukie artillery by the way, the first of allegedly a hundred children to die in such a manner. Google (in my country at least) seems to be cleansed of results for her periodically, I have no idea why. If you google her at the time I am writing this you can find a commemorative tweet and a single image on google images related to her. The rest are just random women. She wasn't so hard to find a couple of years ago...

There is the famous video of the Azov regiment crucifying a civilian for aiding the separatists. it is very upsetting. A lot of people mistakenly call it fake but they are mixing it up with a different fake report of a 5 year old boy getting crucified. It is still easy to find as I am typing this, in this thread and even on reddit. The Azov boys are also famous for mass-rapes as well, which you can also find reports of quite easily. They have never been brought to justice.

The Odessa Massacre of 2014 is also a bit of a sore spot. Dozens of Russian counter-protesters (opposed to the Euromaidan movement) were chased into a building, trapped inside and burned alive. The Ukies filmed it all while singing and cheering.

Look, I'm not saying that war is good. I'm not saying that Ukrainian civilians should suffer. I'm saying that there are surely plenty of ethnic Russians feeling just as worked up about this as we were about 9/11.

I'm also saying rate this post informative or your mother will die in her sleep tonight.

You misunderstood what I meant by justification.

It doesn't matter who did 9/11. What matters is that it was a dramatic attack on American soil, clearly photographed, and personally witnessed by hundreds of thousands of people.

Here's how I think 9/11 went down:

The US/Israeli/Saudi governments:


The American people watching on TV:

Americans in Middle America:


The best Putin has is some cell phone videos of dead bodies. If he wanted to get justification for the war he needed a better false flag or real massacre caught on camera to get an emotional response. Something as bad as Beslan or Moscow Theater Crisis. He needed Ukrainians to be viewed like Chechens in the 90s and 2000s.

There's an emotional response against him now but it's not in his favor.

 

[MrJokerRager]

So here at KiwiFarms, I think we should stay on mission, even in war we an army marches on it's stomach, and we still need the Milk of lolcows.

Enter a New epoch, the Armchair general.
-Lazerpig is a prime candidate.
-We need to ensure we clown on the Armchair aspect of the armchair general.
-Arguing with them about militry facts just makes us armchair generals, it is the behavior in the self proclaimed expertisie that makes them lolzworthy

Who is Lazerpig? I seen that name thrown here a couple of times now?

 

[Matt Damon]

Who is Lazerpig? I seen that name thrown here a couple of times now?

Faggot Youtuber know-nothing who talks out his ass about military stuff.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Hahah
Russians took an elevator to cover from the roof and the Ukrainians turned off the power
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Serves them right, fucking stupid getting an elevator in an active warzone.

Is there live footage of this lol?

 

[Arc]

Following caption is possibly Russian propaganda, I can't translate the speech, so I'll quote it a such:

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"It's all money!" is basically what they are saying. As in it's "It's all [about the ] money".

 

[kuuu]

I ask for the millionth time, where are these people?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#Legacy

Azov Battalion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aidar_Battalion

 

[Wy4M]

Some of the footage is so smooth it makes me think it might be CGI for a sec
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No idea if it is real or fake. I first saw the video appear here: https://www.instagram.com/p/Catzr-xAun7/
The vid they post has the same resolution as the one you posted but I think that the quality is better.
What I find strange: There is no sound, the color pattern of the heli does not seem to match with the helis they use (or it's a shadow?) and no aftermath pictures.
I guess we'll find out in a few days.



Vid from the instagram account:

 

[Socrates]

Looks like we have a new Obama
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Every single time the media gives one of these greasy, perfectly manicured, beady eyed little weasel political figures this sainthood treatment, it backfires and shit comes out to ruin them. Trudeau: Blackface and SNC Lavalin corruption scandal, Cuomo Brothers: Sexual assault charges and accusations of coverups and witness intimidation that wrecked both their careers, Anthony Fauci: Caught lying about gain of function research and now massively distrusted by at least half the nation, Michael Avenatti: Caught trying to extort fucking Nike, discovered to be basically the most corrupt and inept lawyer ever. I wonder if Zelensky will be in the spotlight long enough for his turn.

 

[Puff]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Bandera#Legacy

Azov Battalion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aidar_Battalion

>In this thread
>Wikipedia article.
I do not think this is likely relevant.

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

Putting "Anarcho" in front of everything is like when commies used to put "People's" in front of everything. Anarcho is just for the edgy young (30+ and still living in mom's basement) commies.

This is true. Vaush will shill for anarcho-$meme when he can't openly shill for the "neoliberal" establishment. It's a bit difficult to push for authoritarian regimes when you constantly accuse your enemy of being an authoritarian regime. Power centralizes naturally which makes anarchism a failure but it's an unassailable lefty position for the lazy much like "moderates"/"centrists" in mainstream discourse.