Dramacow Ryulong / Michael Cohen - Fanatic Wikisperg, Anti-Gamergater and All Around Asshole

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

I honestly wonder if/when he'll just make his own wiki on something for the pure purpose of being in a position of power as head editor and never have to follow the rules anybody else sets ever again.

Yeah, it's essentially a theoretical CWCpedia all over again but it's exactly what RyuDrag wants - his own personal soapbox hiding behind the guise of being actually unbiased fact.

All that power means nothing if there's no one to have power over. Good luck getting people to follow him to a new wiki if he ever wants to start one.

 

[Optimus Prime]

All that power means nothing if there's no one to have power over. Good luck getting people to follow him to a new wiki if he ever wants to start one.

Given how obsessive he is over "his" articles I have to wonder if he actually would care if there wasn't anybody around.

 

[HipstrsGonnaHip]

Given how obsessive he is over "his" articles I have to wonder if he actually would care if there wasn't anybody around.

I think that if that was the case he'd currently be running roughshod over the various toku wikias. He could own those easily, they each only have a handful of active editors.

 

[Hellfire]

Lolcows who try for comedy never succeed.
ex: Hayden Black, OPL

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:AgingHippie#sweatie_.28:

This is the second time I have seen you use that non-word. Are you misspelling "sweaty" or "sweetie."? Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 07:07, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Lol, is Ryu trying to say Sweetie Belle? Or sweaty? Ɀexcoiler Кingbolt: hablale a este hijo de la verga! Look! 07:20, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

sweatie (:

I mispell it because it is a joke.—Ryulong (talk) 08:26, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

 

[Optimus Prime]

I mispell it because it is a joke.—Ryulong (talk) 08:26, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

mispell

Jesus Christ are you fucking serious.

 

[Trombonista]

It's the worst joke to come out of tumblr. Of course he thinks it's funny.

 

[chimpburgers]

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/User_talk:AgingHippie#sweatie_.28:

Cryulong just won't stop. See, I spelled his name wrong. Funny right?

(forced laugh)

 

[Hellfire]

Adam and Mikey continue pathetically orbiting the My Little Pony AfD and spilling their spaghetti at people who don't want it deleted.

I don't think this is "an edit war between bronies and anti-bronies" at all. I don't give a flying hoot about MLP (I watched two episodes and found it to be profoundly boring, sorry), but I sure as hell don't want this site be hosting some hateful unfair hitpiece (on any topic). I believe this is how almost everyone feels. The battle is between Bronyphobes (Ryulong, Kitsunelaine) and the rest of the site. Carpetsmoker (talk) 20:12, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Tell that to everyone else who thinks the article should be deleted, bruh. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 02:32, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

"Think this article should be deleted" does not equate to "think that Ryulong and Kitsunelaine are right about MLP". Carpetsmoker (talk) 08:12, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Adam linked a Let Me Google That For You for 'bronies' as his proof and got mocked.

"but bronies and their behavior are up there among the worst as a special case of awful." - Kitsunelaine [citation needed] --Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 17:35, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

here you go bro - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 17:45, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

So basically a Do your own research? That's fucking pathetic, even for you.--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 17:48, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

"this is blatantly obvious to everyone who isn't a part of the herd and a simple google search is literally all you need" but i guess you can't read between the lines - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 17:49, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

A Google search link, especially such a ridiculously broad one, is not a goddamn source.--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 18:10, 5 December 2015 (UTC) b

ruh, no source I add is ever gonna be enough for you because you're a part of the herd. Why should I even try? - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 18:19, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Kitsunelaine, lmgtfy has it's uses, but not when you don't narrow the search to include terms that should yield documentation -- if it exists -- that Bronies are vile freaks baby rapers unsavory, and you did not supply such terms. Merely directing someone to Google results for "Bronies" is just stupid.---Mona- (talk) 18:01, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Whatever you say. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 18:05, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

I retract what I said earlier. The reason the we're fighting over the MLP page now is because Ryulong, Kitsunelaine, et al. are on their crusade to revise it as a hit piece or delete it. I vote we keep it and have compromise on it, but seeing as this is the second AfD nomination, I am just dumbstruck as to what to do further to stop more shitfests from occurring... Ɀexcoiler Кingbolt: hablale a este hijo de la verga! Look! 00:08, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

[citation needed] Adding sourced criticism of toxic behavior does not a hit piece make, brorse. Also don't double vote.—Ryulong (talk) 00:13, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

My apologies (forgot I already voted, and thanks for deleting), but you pretty much tried to paint a real broooooaaaaaad stroke of tar on the entire fandom and claim it as a neutral and balanced article. Ɀexcoiler Кingbolt: hablale a este hijo de la verga! Look! 00:31, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

People believing My Little Pony is not "missional" to RationalWiki are disgusted at the thought of their delete votes lining up with Cohen.

[Delete vote] FFS. I hate having to line up with that bed-wetting hand-down-the-nappy weeaboo fuckwit Ryulong, but this is just not what we're about. MtDNotorious Sodomite 05:47, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Aging Hippie continues to make Cohen cry.

Pop culture with a hint of sexual morality, and thus as missional as Gamergate or furries. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 07:28, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Which is to say, not missional at all. Wiki would be improved by fucking off those articles too. Tielec01 (talk) 07:46, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

I don't disagree, but a world without those articles is not a world we're ever gonna live in. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 08:20, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Gamergate's missional because it's a clusterfuck of conservatism and Internet assholatry. Furry fandom doesn't look missional at all though.—Ryulong (talk) 11:20, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

"Internet assholatry" is not missional, and neither is "conservatism" as such. Interestingly, "it's just Internet assholatry" is pretty much the reason you've stated on why you think this article should be deleted. Carpetsmoker (talk) 11:31, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

If conservatism isn't missional then you might as well nuke everything about Conservapedia from the website.—Ryulong (talk) 07:37, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Will you stop fucking whining? You sound like a god-damn petulant 12-year old. Get over yourself. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 07:44, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

So I can't refute people's bullshit arguments?—Ryulong (talk) 07:57, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

You can do whatever you want. But why you would want to bitch, moan and cry like a child over a bloody cartoon show is beyond me. Peace. AgingHippie (talk) 08:04, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

 

[Optimus Prime]

At this point, I propose that the Ryulong wiki page have a sub-section on that kitsune guy - because look who's engaged in similar shit on wikipedia

 

[Hellfire]

Cohen fights with an IP over Baptists being Protestant.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Baptist&oldid=1582464

Baptists are considered Protestants by an abundance of historians other than the ones you can pull out of your ass that say what you want to be said. Drop it.—Ryulong (talk) 05:33, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

What you are really saying here is that you don't want to face factual reality, correct? That's not rational.71.53.60.200 (talk) (block)

No we're saying you're wrong because "Protestant" is anyone Christian who doesn't identify as Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox.—Ryulong (talk) 05:41, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

I have no idea where you gained the false impression that that is what "Protestant" meant. The Protestant Reformation began with the posting of Luther's 95 Theses on the church door in 1517. The Baptists were never a part of that movement. --71.53.60.200 (talk) 05:49, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

By your reasoning, then Islam is a Protestant religion? --71.53.60.200 (talk) 05:49, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

At this point, I propose that the Ryulong wiki page have a sub-section on that kitsune guy - because look who's engaged in similar shit on wikipedia

Good idea, since Adam has been acting as Ryulong's meatpuppet on Wikipedia since Cohen got banned. He also uses the handles Adaminator, Adaminator1, and rarely Eveinator. Some digging produces a dossier for a 23 years old "trans lesbian" weaboo furfag from New Zealand. Has spilled his spaghetti about trannies as well as Gamergate on reddit's GamerGhazi/ShitRedditSays/SubRedditDrama and related subreddits. Not sure when he became Ryulong's immature henchman, but Adam plays that Puzzles and Dragons game Cohen is obsessed with and watches the same Toku programs and some animes Cohen also does.

https://archive.is/BEZdy

Why I think the term "LGBT" needs to be retired

To put it simply:

People only ever give a shit about the first three letters of that acronym. It's insulting to us trans people. We're dragged around like a desecrated corpse nobody ever mentions.

That, and gender issues are seperate from sexuality issues. It needs it's own focus.

Basically? Don't pretend you care about us when you don't. That's the only thing the term "LGBT" ever really says to trans people. It is insulting. The ammount of people who only care about the first three letters massively outweigh the people who care about the last one.

Also, I would greatly appreciate it if we didn't resort to "Not all LGBT-Users" in the comments. That's missing the point completely. Not all, but most. An overwhelming most.

Only ever using that term to refer to same-sex couples and the like degrades us. It muddies our fight because all the focus is put on yours.

The solution is not an all inclusive term. People use the word LGBT without ever really thinking about it, and it actually just hurts the cause.

EDIT: Okay, I can't believe I'm getting downvoted for this. Can you guys say with a straight face that the LGB community at large does not ignore trans rights causes? LGB voices overpower T voices on a regular basis. Having us as an afterthought in that movement isn't a good thing.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Not sure when he became Ryulong's immature henchman, but Adam plays that Puzzles and Dragons game Cohen is obsessed with and watches the same Toku programs and some animes Cohen also does.

https://archive.is/BEZdy

Not surprised with the P&D thing - it's basically Pokemon x Bejeweled. Only with far, far more anime girls in it.

Of course, looking this guy up related to PAD...obsessed is putting it mildly.
http://www.xforal.com/r/PuzzleAndDr...godfest_pull_results_60_day_old_account_hows/

Two things:

1. Note that this is "xforal" in the website header, NOT reddit despite looking like it. Probably says something that Adam is on a copycat site that's suspicious as hell instead of reddit proper.
http://whois.domaintools.com/xforal.com

2. I have PAD on my smartphone as well, nearly a year only playing casually, but that's what's striking me as odd - if Adam's account is only *60* days old, then going off of the information at the top of those pictures he's at the same ranking it's taken me nearly a year to get to, which under normal circumstances is impossible in that timeframe. You're limited in how much you can do based on how much "stamina" you have (this value increases as you level up, higher level dungeons cost more stamina, etc.) and it is SLOW to recharge at maybe 1 stamina point every 5 minutes.

Unless you buy magic stones (the real money commodity of course), then you can refill the stamina bar for one stone every time you want.

Needless to say, the amount of money and time he has to have burned on PAD is insane. And all for a game I'm guessing he's only played for two months and with zero value gotten out of it (the game has no social features, or leaderboards of note - even the friends function is really just to let newer players get access to big, powerful monsters other players have temporarily).

But what this tells me is that if Adam is this invested...how deep does the rabbit hole go for Ryulong? Look at the bottom of the first user comment chain here:
http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/monster.asp?n=1759

Dude was being so much of an ass on what's pretty much the main PAD website that they purged his profile - clicking his name does nothing but take you to the home page.

Of course, he still plays the game obsessively.

 

[Hellfire]

Needless to say, the amount of money and time he has to have burned on PAD is insane. And all for a game I'm guessing he's only played for two months and with zero value gotten out of it (the game has no social features, or leaderboards of note - even the friends function is really just to let newer players get access to big, powerful monsters other players have temporarily).

That's classic Cohen right there. Complete asshole, alienated yet another community and got thrown out, moved onto reddit to continue his obsession. Wish we could see what caused him to get ban hammered.

How expensive are the P2W transactions on that game? I'm not sure what New Zealand has for welfare/NEET bux, but I didn't see shit about Adam having a job. Was living with his probably single mother - who he abused and hated because she was a Christian trying to raise him to be a good person and he wanted to be an angtheist tranny shitstain instead - until 2012 when (right before Christmas) he moved out to a flat shared with 5~ guys she helped him find. Never saw a single thing said about his father, constant butthurt about his poor mom. Seems to have dropped out of college years ago (also confirms adaminator1 is Kitsunelaine), just shitposts on the internet now and whines about trannies, Gamergate, Ryulong, and My Little Pony. Like Cohen, Adam's been obsessed with Gamergate for over a year and recently defended the Nyberg pedocow.

Anyways, at RW Ryulong sperg'd out on an IP editor and started swearing at him and telling him to shut up. RW regulars saw this and were angry that Cohen was acting like that and told him so. Enter Adam, who began white knighting Cohen and - yet again - tried to place all the blame on anyone but Michael Cohen.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Talk:Baptist#An_aside_about_decorum

Hey, Carpetsmoker, could you cool it with the aggression towards Ryulong? Thanks. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 08:18, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Wut? CS highlighted that Ryulong's highly aggressive and invective-ridden response to the Baptist BoN was not only uncalled for but wrong and you think it's CS who needs to "cool it with the aggression"? Where is CS even being aggressive here? ScepticWombat (talk) 08:30, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

There are better ways to say what Carpetsmoker wanted to, ways without attempting to ignite any drama flames. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 08:47, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Ryulong provokes and thrives on this. There can be no other rational explanation for his behaviour at this Wiki.--TheroadtoWiganPier (talk) 08:53, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm still puzzled over how on earth CS' rather polite tone it down comment can be described as "aggressive" or in some way "attempting to ignite any drama flames". What is it that CS shouldn't have said or where is the baiting of Ryulong? ScepticWombat (talk) 08:59, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Accusing him of being a hypocrite in the most condescending tone. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 09:08, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

I have more constructive things to do than argue over this with you. I will say this: after the BoN's edit was (rightfully) reverted he did the right thing by going to this talk page, apologizing, and asking how to do better. This is a textbook example of how to be a good wiki-editor. Ryulong's behaviour has been consistently abrasive from comment #1 ("End of discussion", really?), Ryulong's favourite word ("fuck") comes out in the second comment, and 3 or 4 comments later he flat-out tells the BoN to "shut up". What a way to have a discussion when you tell the other side to "shut up". When I see someone behaving like that as a "RW regular" I am ashamed to be part of this site. And you have the arrogance to tell me "tone it down" after pointing out that his behaviour is exceedingly rude (and ignorant to boot)? This is laughable. Carpetsmoker (talk) 09:22, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

While Carpetsmoker did his mic drop and left, ScepticWombat stayed and found himself covered in salt from Adam, who hilariously tried to claim Ryulong was a "longtime contributor" and definitely not a pariah that is only around because David Gerard won't let the rest of the community get rid of him.

I can only agree with CS' point: A BoN follows the proper code of conduct for discussing matters and does so in a polite tone, whereupon Ryulong issues a, dare I say, aggressive series of responses to the extent that one might imagine them being called "attempting to ignite any drama flames". Then CS calls Ryulong to order, pointing out that, given his own track record, Ryulong should be the last to engage in that kind of "fuck you, shut up!" abuse. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that the BoN is editing in bad faith, even as I happen to completely disagree with his/her point of view. So, no, I don't think CS should have handled it markedly different. Someone needed to call Ryulong to order and point out that his responses to the Baptist BoN were both rude and completely at odds with what RW is about (i.e. not about simply shutting up or shouting down theists, but to debunk and counter theist claims when these are BS). ScepticWombat (talk) 09:58, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

There are better ways to criticize fellow editors than slamming doors and burning bridges. You want to build relationships, not break them down. And it's not entirely unjustified to be wary of BoN vandalism, as you might suggest, especially given how this BoN made their entrance. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 10:06, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but telling other editors when they're out of order is a way to help "to build relationships" that also encompass "fellow editors" who don't happen to be signed up members of RW and doesn't necessitate walking on eggshells around a rather notoriously mercurial editor. I still don't see why you chose to wag the finger at CS, rather than Ryulong, considering the contents and attitudes of their respective posts. Or is it because the caution about building relationships and not "slamming doors and burning bridges" only applies to "insider" editors with an account and history at RW and not to BoNs trying to argue with them? ScepticWombat (talk) 10:46, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

I think that the fact that an editor who has been around as long as Ryulong has even less of an excuse to go into knee-jerk attack mode and claim that theists should just shut up and fuck off than some drive-by BoN. It seems to me that Ryulong's responses are not even bad faith edits but something more akin to obliviousness as to both form at and purpose of RW. Again, I think that the Baptist BoN's objections are irrelevant, but I at least tried to see what they were and if they had any merit, rather than going all invective stonewall. Also, I have a hard time getting the characteristic "total condemnation" to match what CS actually wrote, while pointing out that throwing these kinds of stones when you live in a glass house is hardly "smug condemnation". It was a call to order with a tagged on reminder about why such order is a benefit to everybody. ScepticWombat (talk) 15:35, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

 

[Optimus Prime]

How expensive are the P2W transactions on that game?

Roughly, the base price for one stone is $1 USD. Pretty expensive, right? Well, the bulk packs aren't really that great a deal either- the best value is the 85 stone pack for $59.99 - roughly 70 cents per stone.

Might have had better prices during the advertised black Friday package, but as I never buy stones I can't give you the price on that but I would be surprised if it was even 50 cents a stone there.

Now, here's the thing - getting stones for free is not hard. Often, they'll have "events" every month which amount to just giving you a stone for free for ten days at the start of each month, then every five dungeons you clear earns a stone (and then AGAIN if you pass the same five set dungeons in the challenge mode), and really you can get a lot of stones easy with just patience.

The only reason to buy stones is if you're an autistic fuckwit who doesn't want to wait in the long term.

 

[Hellfire]

Cohen hates South Park, links to a copy-pasta.

South Park is reactionary libertarian garbage and the only people who still enjoy watching it are people who share the same political opinions as Matt Stone and Trey Parker, and that's that being anything other than an apathetic libertarian and caring about changing anything in the world makes you rife for mockery. That's why they made Manbearpig. The whole "PC Principal" shit was even more indicative of their "stop trying to change the world" philosophy. And still, no one gives a shit about Tom Preston. This thread should have been archived several weeks ago but the archival bots are all broken. You didn't need to respond to any of this RakortheTerrible.—Ryulong (talk) 03:44, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

South Park is making fun of absolutely everyone, no exceptions. --Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 05:07, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

That's why it's shit.—Ryulong (talk) 05:08, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Why? Wagging your middle finger at everyone means, that you're not bigoted against anyone. or against everyone equally.--Arisboch ☞✍☜☞✉☜ ∈)☼(∋ 05:23, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Read.—Ryulong (talk) 05:46, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Cohen gets butthurt that another RW user wanted to put a ufology category on one of his pet weaboo articles.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Reverend_Black_Percy&oldid=1583117#Yonaguni

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php...05&oldid=1583169#Moved_from_RBP.27s_talk_page

Groan. Reverend has been adding sidebars to quite a few pages over the last week; all without problems. Except, as usual, on a Ryulong Blessed Page™. I have no opinion on the inclusion of the sidebar, but instead of "revert and assert"—revert the edit and assert your right—you could try "keep and ask" for a change: keep the change and ask why the editor thought it was a good idea. You might get better results. Perhaps try learning about the Socratic method for example. Carpetsmoker (talk) 19:26, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Boy, that didn't take long. Unacceptable behaviour from Ruylong. And, for the record, when I say "this is my work" I mean in contrast to the wiki-paste, not in any sense to mean that the article or anything I put on it is "mine". Just to be clear. Reverend Black Percy (talk) 03:25, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

It's a shit quote from some unknown jerkoff.—Ryulong (talk) 03:27, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

You sure do swear a lot, don't you? The quote has good reason to stay, Ryulong. It's snarky, relevant and funny. Deal with it. You're just being unreasonable, as Carpet points out above. When I do something wrong, I apologize. When you do something right, you get credit from me. You, on the other hand... Reverend Black Percy (talk) 03:30, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Cohen got blocked for edit warring during this tantrum and the salt began to pour since he threw away his sysop a bit ago.

http://rationalwiki.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ryulong&oldid=1583082

(Autoblock ID is #79397 someone lift it because Reverend Black Percy is a fucking tool)

Autoblock still in place because Reverend Black Percy is a plagiarizing cockmongler.—Ryulong (talk) 03:00, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Cohen has been brought to the Chicken coop for the umpteenth time. Carpetsmoker has had enough and is trying to find a solution to Cohen's constant disruptive, obnoxious behavior.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/RationalWiki:Chicken_coop#We_need_to_talk_about_Ryulong

And this is just the last 6 weeks. Similar behaviour started almost since the moment he first arrived on this site. My point is to show an ongoing pattern with no signs of slowing down:

• Unable to discuss issues in a calm and rational manner.
• Difficult to compromise with.
• Excessive use of profanity. I don't want to "tone police" anyone, but it shows a lack of respect and tends to move discussions "the wrong way", and is getting out of hand. There is a limit.
• Being patient and reasonable does not help.
• Brining the topic up a day later (so everyone has time to "cool down") does not help.

All of this results in:

• Waste of time of editors which could be spent on improving pages and other (constructive) pursuits.
• A hostile and nasty environment where editors are more likely to "give up" than constantly battle Ryulong. This will result in pages which are of a lower quality.
• Editors will think twice before editing a Ryulong Blessed Page™ as they know it's likely to lead to drama.
• Damage to RationalWiki's reputation as a sceptic and science website.
• Editors leaving the site.

In other words, Ryulong is a damaging and counter-constructive influence on this site.

Adam has responded by screaming "muh lyurong!!!" and blaming everyone else for not putting up with Cohen sperg outs.

I would like to think that a decent start might be fellow editors attempting to engage with him in good faith as opposed to ways that only further aggression (which isn't necessarily bad faith, as it can also be attributed to simple carelessness). Why this wasn't mentioned in "how do we fix it" is beyond me. You don't calm a frustrated bear down by repeatedly jabbing it with a stick, and then acting surprised when it lashes out. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 11:17, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

This would be a good argument if Ryulong wouldn't have spent the last 10 months on this site being a twat, which he has. People are fed up, and have run out of patience with Ryulong, which is not at all unreasonable. Your argument basically boils down to "just accept that Ryulong is a twat and deal with it". No. I'm willing to put up with a certain amount, but enough is enough. It's Ryulong's responsibility to fix this, not mine to "just accept it". Carpetsmoker (talk) 11:25, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

"He's a twat" isn't a good reason to give someone an excuse to be a twat. That only, again, furthers the aggression. Also, I am not telling you to "just accept it". I am saying the world is big enough for the both of you, and it's not just one side that has to put the effort in to make it that way. A lot of this is the capacity to engage with someone in good faith as opposed to berating them. You have to be willing to set aside your differences and hash it out. Civilly. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 11:28, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

In most of the 13 incidents no one gave "Ryulong an excuse to be a twat". Your reply somehow assumes that I have not spent significant effort in engaging with Ryulong in a reasonable manner. I have. I certainly never picked any fights with Ryulong. Your Ryulong apologetics are beyond ludicrous and laughable, just as they are on the Baptist page. Carpetsmoker (talk) 11:33, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Unless there's actual policies I've violated in the two weeks since I've been sysoprevoked then I don't see any purpose in this other than it being yet another venue for people to bitch about me as happens across the fucking project on a weekly basis.—Ryulong (talk) 11:30, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

"Sceptic" is the British spelling. My (British) girlfriend beats me if I don't use British spellings (really!) I have no interest in repeating discussions on any of these issues, I merely wanted to point out that you're a constant source of conflict, and seemingly lack any capacity at self-reflection or the ability to admit that, just maybe, you could have handled things a bit different. This reply is a great example of that (a large portion of your replies competently misses the point, btw)... "Actual policies I've violated" is not how we do thing here. This is not Wikipedia with 6MB of policies and wikilawyers. Rather, we simple typically to "be reasonable and rational" and "do the sane thing" (and you know this). Carpetsmoker (talk) 11:39, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

If you have attempted to engage in a reasonable manner with Ryulong, I personally have not seen it. In fact, if your most recent example on said Baptist page of smug condescension is your definition of "reasonable manner", then I would wholeheartedly disagree with your assertions. I would like to add, that it is not just you that I am talking about, and it is rather arrogant to assume such dominance over a topic. There are several others on this site that should listen to what I am saying here, as they are only furthering an issue as opposed to resolving it. Indeed, putting up times where people have sought to engage with Ryu in a reasoned manner would amplify your point, but the only substance of your coop case is "God, look at what a dick Ryulong is, we should ban him". There is no attempt at sympathy or empathy, and I rarely see any put forward towards Ryulong. Merely trying to attempt reasoned debate with him on it's own doesn't count as a show of good faith. As a third party observer, I've seen nothing here to suggest anything being put forward towards Ryulong in an attempt to show people trying to put a distance between themselves and the toxicity here that Ryulong is observing. All I've seen are things that would reinforce his attitude towards the site picking on him. - Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 11:44, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

"the only substance of your coop case is "God, look at what a dick Ryulong is, we should ban him"." -> Flagrant straw man. I posted a list of real damage he does to this site. I also posted at least one other option than banning and said that, as far as I'm concerned, other options are open (I just can't think of any). "As a third party observer" -> mwuahahah. This is the same "third party observer" that posts "rofl! @Ryulong and me made some bronies angry at @RationalWiki" (or something to that effect) and was friends with Ryulong long before you joined this site last month? Carpetsmoker (talk) 11:49, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

 

[Adamska]

I'd be depressed that this is Mikey's life, but then I remember what a stupid obnoxious tool he is and then laugh at the fact that he can't even do the one thing what he wants since he can't not be a dick to others and gets kicked for that and edit warring.

Duning-Kruger at it's finest really, especially since he tried arguing with Japanese native speakers on translations.

 

[chimpburgers]

Smug pompous twat is now butthurt that other people are giving him his own medicine. Good. His time there is running shorter and shorter.

 

[Karellen]

His time there is running shorter and shorter.

Sadly, no. He has plenty of white knights there to defend him, many of them higher up.

It's really sad seeing how far the site has fallen. if you didn't see the usernames on the coop page I could've sworn I was on Conservapedia given the way they're all behaving.

 

[sgetti]

Smug pompous twat is now butthurt that other people are giving him his own medicine. Good. His time there is running shorter and shorter.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. The first time Lyulong was up for being blocked, they resysoped him for literally no other reason than he is anti-GamerGate and they didn't want to give the gators anything to laugh about. That's not even getting into all the times David Gerard's sucked him off when the rest of the userbase was ready to throw him out on his ass. I think Cohen's sticking around on "Rational"Wiki for a while yet, and frankly, those two deserve each other.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Sadly, no. He has plenty of white knights there to defend him, many of them higher up.

It's really sad seeing how far the site has fallen. if you didn't see the usernames on the coop page I could've sworn I was on Conservapedia given the way they're all behaving.

To be fair, the origins of the site was to be some kind of parody of Conservapedia, not that big a surprise it's become less of a parody and more of a "same shit different day" scenario.

I also disagree about it being sad since I can't recall any instance where its existence was really necessary or more informative vs. other sources.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. The first time Lyulong was up for being blocked, they resysoped him for literally no other reason than he is anti-GamerGate and they didn't want to give the gators anything to laugh about. That's not even getting into all the times David Gerard's sucked him off when the rest of the userbase was ready to throw him out on his ass. I think Cohen's sticking around on "Rational"Wiki for a while yet, and frankly, those two deserve each other.

I see the reasoning about trying to keep him around as an anti-GG sperg but since then he's virtually exploded in causing trouble for RW over bullshit unrelated to GG. Namely in that he's acting omnipotent and tyrannical in policing "his" articles much as he always does, to the point of shouting down any body who makes any edit removing or modifying his work to fit what little form rules RW has. And the majority of his asshattery on RW has been over him constantly trying to turn the MLP:FIM article into a hitpiece against bronies without even a semblance of reliable sourcing. Much like Wu getting kicked from GamerGhazi for being just a total piece of shit not worth the trouble, Ryulong's presence on RW is splitting the very community on that site and something will need to be done.

 

[AnOminous]

Cohen has been brought to the Chicken coop for the umpteenth time. Carpetsmoker has had enough and is trying to find a solution to Cohen's constant disruptive, obnoxious behavior.

I want to see how David Gerard defends this utter asshat who is turning RW into even more of a mockery than it already was.

Why the fuck is he riding this guy's dick so hard?