Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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Mister DNA said:
So how exactly is this going to work? Are these jets going to be flown into Ukraine through contested airspace? Who is going to pilot them? Also, what airfields will they be arming at, taking off, and landing from (and with what weapons)? If the news is to be believed, Russian forces are all over the place over there and I would think they would at the very least be able to bombard airbases to nonfunctionality. This just seems strange given the present state of the conflict.
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They were saying earlier that Ukrainian pilots will be sent to Poland to pick them up and fly them back.
 
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No Batty Boys in Jamaica said:
Ah, Stinger missiles. So easy to use that that illiterate Afghan farmers and American high school dropouts can shoot down multi-million dollar aircraft that require thousands of hours in training to use effectively.

The Ukrainians need to be careful if their pipe dream of getting borrowed Romanian MiG-29s in the air comes true. They should probably paint them bright yellow or something. Towards the end of WWII, the Luftwaffe had to paint the bottoms of some of their remaining FW-190s bright red because AA gunners had gotten to the point of assuming that if a plane was flying, it wasn't German. Allied pilots would try to shoot down German planes as they took off or landed, so the Germans had to saturate the runway approaches with AA guns. View attachment 3048101
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Kek operation bodenplatte which happened in january 1945 was the biggest air operation in history of the luftwaffe.

2000 planes took off too strike allied airfields.

The operation was so secret only a handful of people in the luftwaffe knew.

Hundreds of planes were lost because of friendly fire and the operation only disabled a few airfields and allied planes. A huge loss for the german airforce
 
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Null said:
It literally cannot happen fast enough. I hope that the system collapses and bankers are drawn and quartered in the streets by subsaharans who then eat their inside thinking that the secret to jewish magic can be obtained by imbibing chunks of raw organ meat.
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Fucking based
 
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Null said:
It literally cannot happen fast enough. I hope that the system collapses and bankers are drawn and quartered in the streets by subsaharans who then eat their inside thinking that the secret to jewish magic can be obtained by imbibing chunks of raw organ meat.
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Are you implying that isn't how I can absorb kike magic? Why do Rabbi bite off the tips of Jewish baby dicks then JEWsh?
 
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Mister DNA said:
So how exactly is this going to work? Are these jets going to be flown into Ukraine through contested airspace? Who is going to pilot them? Also, what airfields will they be arming at, taking off, and landing from (and with what weapons)? If the news is to be believed, Russian forces are all over the place over there and I would think they would at the very least be able to bombard airbases to nonfunctionality. This just seems strange given the present state of the conflict.
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So the process would be Poland and other Nato members would give Ukraine older Soviet/Russian planes to the Ukrainian. Most likely by having the Ukrainian pilots going over the border and picking them up, or something like that

Now, why the older planes? Because that's the planes the Ukrainian are trained to pilot. In return, however, the US would gave the countries that "gifted" the planes new American planes. If I remember correctly, they're offering F-16.

When Politico broke the news, they said it was still being negotiated. But now that's in the open, I guess they only needed a very short negotiation


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Also, this reminds me. The US once sent a volunteer squadron to China during WW2, right? The Flying Tigers. So why they couldn't do the same here now? This is a genuine question by the way
 
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Getting tard comed said:
So this is the map while Russias been having logistical nightmares and convoys destroyed and suffering US DDay losses per day for the past 10 days?

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Maps like this are highly deceptive because they are filled in like an EU4 map. I moved 1,000 troops into the undefended Kiev square! That means I control all of Kiev! Change the map color please!

In actuality a Russian unit MAY have gotten as far as the map indicates while 10 miles behind the arbitrary map line a Ukrainian village is still held by the Ukrainian Army and 20 miles behind the arbitrary line a small town still has a Ukrainian flag flying in the town square and nobody has seen any soldiers, Ukrainian OR Russian. Ukraine is a big country, and with so much focus on the city centers huge swaths of territory ostensibly occupied by Russia are not.
 
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Octavia said:
Just slept for like 14 hours, what did I miss?
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Not a damn thing, feels like we are stuck in a time loop. Events goes as follows:

1) Russia bombs civilians and capture new Ukraine territory.
2) Social media outrage and condemnation from NATO.
3) People speculate about Putin’s sanity and endgame.
4) Zelensky and Ukraine leaders begs for more sanctions and NATO military intervention.
5) NATO refuses direct intervention but helps Ukraine indirectly by providing weapons and humanitarian aid.
6) Repeat events the next day.
 
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Krokodil Overdose said:
Welp, it's been fun not being radioactive ash with you guys.
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There's a difference between sending a few rusty Slovak and Romanian MiG-29s to a country that has bombed-out runways, and clearing all the F-15s, F-16s, F-22s, F-35s, Rafales, and Eurofighters to sortie from bases in Turkey and Poland. They will probably not even get off the ground because the Ukrainian runways are cratered.


None of the formerly-Communist NATO countries have put much work into their MiG-29 fleets because they know that the F-35 is coming out. The US doesn't have as much interest in training against Polish and Romanian MiGs anymore because Red Air and Draken International have private fleets of Eastern-Bloc aircraft now. They're also much more interested in license built Indian MiG-29s because the Poojeets built theirs in the 2000s and are closer to what the Russians use today, vs the ones inherited by the Luftwaffe that date back to unification.
 
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Rezza said:
Also, this reminds me. The US once sent a volunteer squadron to China during WW2, right? The Flying Tigers. So why they couldn't do the same here now? This is a genuine question by the way
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The idea was floated of sending retired out of service pilots to go fuck around in Ukraine. They wouldn't be part of our armed services, but who knows what the hell Putin would think about them using our equipment.

Putin actually wants escalation but he wants us to be the aggressor and we're not taking the bait.
 
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