Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
    694
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Poland refused this idea though.
That was yesterday. This is today
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Yep, becoming pro Russia is very easy in this whole conflict. I’m quite surprised, yet at the same time not.
I'm not gonna support Russia because
  1. It's rapidly approaching the point where that can get you arrested
  2. Russia has never done anything for me
Russia is not some based trad Christian holdout standing alone against globohomo. The difference between Russia and Globohomo is like choosing between eating shit and eating shit with sugar on top.
 
tfw stonks are going weird and 5 pages appear on this thread out of nowhere in like 5 fucking minutes omgwtfbbq.
Russia is not some based trad Christian holdout standing alone against globohomo. The difference between Russia and Globohomo is like choosing between eating shit and eating shit with sugar on top.
This. Russia is shit. It is a shit country. If you support it you are a shit person. If you are Russian, you are a walking piece of shit, kill yourself.
 
Yes, delete Kaspersky and never use it again.

But I could've told you that years ago.
Kaspersky Labs do some of the best anti-virus research there is. They're a primary source, not just copy-pasting definitions from a public list. It was Kaspersky Labs that found and disclosed Stuxnet and they also caught the NSA's malware on their servers and if I had the time I'd find you the article that details what the NSA did (scary impressive) and how Kaspersky found it and removed it (great read, very detailed).

No, I can't agree with this - along with Trend Micro they are consistently one of the best anti-virus providers. What you really have to ask yourself is who you'd most be concerned about spying on you. Russian authorities or US/Five Eyes nations? For the vast majority of ordinary people in the West, they are far more likely to find their own country's cops kicking down their door than mysteriously appearing Russian cops.

Not that anyone has, to my knowledge, ever caught Kaspersky letting through malware. Kaspersky himself is a fascinating guy and scary smart.
 
I’m really just tired of the U.S. trying to interfere with other heads of state in different countries. Regime changes were a Cold War tactic that the CIA used in a lot of South America and all it did was just create more instability in those places.
I wonder if the issue is that regime-change quagmires take long enough that there's always another generation of glowies who come up and think "bro, it'll totally work this time now that we're the ones in charge".
 
Ww3 begins on page 1939
I wish Bestgore and LiveLeak were still around. Now it's just Crazyshit.com and I'm not trying to give my computer AIDS. Plus it'll be 3 minutes of niggers fistfighting, then two minutes of narco footage I've seen before, and a minute of some retarded porno mishap before they get to Ukraine footage from 2014.

No. The US knew how to SEAD. Saddam's air defense personnel had been purged after Iran-Iraq or killed on day 1 of Desert Storm. A-10s were allowed to operate with impunity, massacring Iraqi convoys and civilian evacuations. When an A-10 did get hit by a SAM/MANPAD or lucky hit from a cannon, the thing is sturdy and armored, so they were able to limp back to base.

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The A-10 is obsolete against all of the red countries, except North Korea because they lack ICBMs. Everywhere else would be decimated by SEAD from EA-18Gs, B-2s, and F-35s first.


Oh North Korea will have a nuclear warhead after all this. Iran also.
 
Speaking of the Z, there's also the V which is featured in this CNN video that I'll only archive on request as it's overall insignificant in my opinion.

The reporter sees the V on the vehicles and speculates that it means V for "восток"/"vostok" which means "east" in Russian, further reasoning they may be troops from Russia's East. Is there any confirmation on what the symbols used mean so far? I personally think they are just easy identification marks that otherwise mean nothing significant.
It makes no sense for Russians to use the letters Z and V since they're not part of the Cyrillic alphabet.
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In the Gulf they usually had a lambda, or sometimes a square with an X in it. Then a delta to identify unit. The roofs of the vehicle were often painted orange, green, or yellow, to help prevent friendly fire. The lambda was easy to identify on friendly targeting pods. A few isolated incidents where the lambda was mistaken for a triangular mark on an Iraqi vehicle but generally served its purpose well in that giant police operation.
 
The VDV are really giving Fallschirmjagers a run for their money as worst paratroopers for a major country ever. Seems like they abandoned a bunch of BMP-2Ms.
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Those don't look like BMP-2Ms to me.

BMP-2Ms have double ATGMs mounted to both sides of their turrets:
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The one's in the video only have a single ATGM tube and it's in the middle and on top of the turret:

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You know what has a single ATGM tube mounted on top of the turret? Ukrainian BMP-2s:
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It's interesting to claim they are BMP-2Ms (which would be a model that only the Russians would have) instead of saying they're BMP-2s (which both sides have). I think there is some good propaganda and PsyOps going on.

It's a clever move. When you have equipment that looks similar enough to everyone who isn't a tank autist, just send out someone with a smartphone and a can of white spray paint, and you can make your losses look like victories just by spraying a white Z on the sides of your vehicles. Clever move by the Ukrainians, not bad at all.
 
How badly would breaking the US financial processing monopoly (VISA, SWIFT, etc) hurt the USD in terms of being a global reserve currency?
Nobody actually knows, but we could well be about to find out. Morlock compared weaponizing SWIFT to an unpatched zero-day- you use it once, then it gets fixed and you can never do it again. Every country is now on notice to preemptively unplug from globohomo if they want to do something they won't like. The fact that we burned this card over an Eastern European border war should be an adequate demonstration of how insanely reckless the people making the decisions are.
 
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