Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[DwayneTheSockJohnson]

Those don't look like BMP-2Ms to me.

BMP-2Ms have double ATGMs mounted to both sides of their turrets:
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The one's in the video only have a single ATGM tube and it's in the middle and on top of the turret:

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You know what has a single ATGM tube mounted on top of the turret? Ukrainian BMP-2s:
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It's interesting to claim they are BMP-2Ms (which would be a model that only the Russians would have) instead of saying they're BMP-2s (which both sides have). I think there is some good propaganda and PsyOps going on.

It's a clever move. When you have equipment that looks similar enough to everyone who isn't a tank autist, just send out someone with a smartphone and a can of white spray paint, and you can make your losses look like victories just by spraying a white Z on the sides of your vehicles. Clever move by the Ukrainians, not bad at all.

>look guyz were winning, trust me!

 

[Safir]

Can someone who is pro-Russia point me towards something that explains your side of things?

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/russian-invasion-of-ukraine.107023/page-1846#post-11334690

TL;DR Yeltsin set us up the bomb.

 

[JambledUpWords]

I wonder how many celebrities will end up donating to Ukraine?

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Kek

The west fucked itself and now facing a 2008 like oil supply crash...which crashes everything else in general. Once that goes...kaboom folks. Everyone who thought there houses were worth more and refinanced are suddenly upside down.

Mass homelessness then happens

Glad I've been waiting to buy a house. Time to fleece the boomers

 

[eternal dog mongler]

It's interesting to claim they are BMP-2Ms (which would be a model that only the Russians would have) instead of saying they're BMP-2s (which both sides have). I think there is some good propaganda and PsyOps going on.

Actually, that's a good spot.

I know there have been Russian equipment losses posted before that were like...literally not in service in Russia but were in Ukraine.

The Ukranian propaganda is counterproductive though. Look at us we're winning. We're seizing all this equipment! We're gonna fucking destroy those terrible Russians! And then you're just some dude in Odessa wondering why a batallion tactical group is showing up at your door and turning your ass into Grozny.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

No yeah it was already kind of obvious but now the situation seems to be moving towards its end.

Yeah some of the places talking sbout this with a calmer head are saying most things will be wrapped up by the end of next week.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

It appears that NATO and the Russian Federation have engaged in aerial combat over Ratne, Ukraine.

Spoiler: Immediate Aftermath.

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I found the original hard to watch. But throw in the Oblivion soundtrack and I have now watched it 10 times. It just makes it seem like some kind of NPC fight gone wrong because Bethesda didn't alpha test enough.

 

[The Bovinian Derivative]

Whoops! The US accidentally created a anti-American coalition group because they had the dumb idea of mixing cancel culture with politics.

You'd think at least the globehomo bankers would be smart enough to protect their bottom line, but we have to face it: absolutely everyone in a position of power is either incompetent or a retard.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

India media was predicting Biden and co to sanction their asses for offering to help Russia but as discussed before the only thing India hates more than their own ethnic minorities is China, i think Biden would have to really put India in a guillotine similar to Russia for them to consider conceding any amount of power/influence to China

Putin would have been happy to leave an intact and independent Ukraine on condition they acted like Switzerland. Enter into a free trade deal with the EU no worries but no NATO membership. But the US couldn't let them go so now they'll end up, at best, as a partitioned Russian vassal state. It's what happens when you allow Jews to dominate your polity, they're not Ukrainian and they had absolutely no desire to do what was best for the people of Ukraine. Even now, with defeat staring them in the face, their government with their Jewish actor 'President' and the Jewish oligarchs who control him, still refuse to rule out joining NATO and are pushing gay ops to drag the west into going to war for them. Even Biden isn't demented enough to launch a land war with Russia.

"Never underestimate Biden's ability to fuck up."

-Barack Obama

People in the West really don’t get China. Saw a Youtube of clips of people in China cheering on the war and most did not understand how they could be that way or wanted to help them. The people that lived there and got out meanwhike were just expressing sadness. Because they knew there was no changing them. It’s not even the CCP that is the cause even. China viewing itself as superior has always held true. You aren’t breaking that. No matter how long it takes they will rule everything. As they rightfully should.

TBF to the West, reading Chinese history and philosophy is a byzantine task working on premises that are utterly alien to them, especially now with trendy divorces destroying the family unit. Analects is so fucking irritating to read that I gave up and read Romance of the Three Kingdoms instead. At least stuff happens in a sequence in that book.

Perfect analogy btw, since in Star Wars the only defining factor for "Empire bad, rebels good" was Stormtroopers killing Luke's family and the emperor being a Sith, but never really showing what the empire is doing to oppress it's citizens.
Even in the new trilogy (1-3) it was like "Wrinkly man bad, senate good" and something something democracy dying.

More like Wrinkly man bad, senate retarded.

Ron Paul gave his thoughts recently.

Americans Have Good Anti-War Instincts, But War Propagandists Always Work To Grind Them Away

View Americans Have Good Anti-War Instincts, But War Propagandists Always Work To Grind Them Away on Odysee

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For a man that had a stroke, he hasn't lost a step.

Ted's claimed he lied about that in the past in that High Times interview, that he was just fucking with the journalist. While I would normally tend to doubt his self-serving claims, the story is remarkably similar to a number of others that went around at the time. I remember one involving peanut butter because nobody is going to taste it to see if it's real shit anyway.

My opinion is Ted didn't actually do that. I think he just thought it was a funnier story to tell than whatever way he actually did dodge the draft.

Then again, what if you did this IRL? Aside from the recruiting sergeant being disgusted, he and the examining physician have to consider whether having a significant biohazard around other soldiers for years on end is a good idea.

Ted Nugent might have ended the draft forever. A true American hero.

The Russians simply don't have enough trucks, buses, and other motor vehicles. Says a great deal here about Russian military logistics planning/procurement/budgeting. They apparently bet everything on a quick strike against little to no resistance. Now it's a grind and the Russians know they haven't enough. Remember, the Russians must maintain forces in other places besides the Ukrainian front. Can't strip them too much. Now they must take civilian trucks/buses, with the associated effects on the economy. You can bet militaries and intelligence organizations all over are paying the very closest attention to all of this. The Russian giant has, indeed, feet of clay...

You mean, feet of mud.

 

[Dave_Ph]

Bro this isn't a video game there aren't abandoned biolabs waiting to be captured somewhere.

Q says you're wrong
They were the first with this.

I wonder if the issue is that regime-change quagmires take long enough that there's always another generation of glowies who come up and think "bro, it'll totally work this time now that we're the ones in charge".

After all that has been learned in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya they'll definitely get it now.
Fourth times the charm

 

[Wyald]

I wonder how many celebrities will end up donating to Ukraine?
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A wiser move would be donating AFTER the war, but to answer your question: Very few. They are all bark and no bite, they will support Ukraine in order to get clout but only a couple will donate actual money.

 

[Meat Target]

I wonder how many celebrities will end up donating to Ukraine?
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That's much better than George Takei telling us we just need to suffer the consequences of inflation to Own the Vlad. Don't talk, do.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

Yeah some of the places talking sbout this with a calmer head are saying most things will be wrapped up by the end of next week.

Basically.

I don't think anyone sensible thought Ukraine would win. I have no dog in this fight because I don't care about either country, but it's a bit obvious looking at troop movements and the Ukrainian propaganda.

 

[Jarolleon]

No they totally exist.

It was always a big deal to put people behind german lines at night to fuck with shit before a major assault. Usually using stolen uniforms and what not, they laid mines, cut cables and blocked roads. Alot of credit was given to so called local 'Partisans' to make germany spend valuable manpower policing but in many cases these were just Infiltrators.

Totally SOP for Russia. I have no doubt they exist in Kiev right now fucking with things. Look how much manpower Ukraine has expended trying to find and eliminate them.

Were WW2 German anti-partisan tactics essentially an excuse to kill lots of Slavs or was that more Russkie propaganda?

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Glad I've been waiting to buy a house. Time to fleece the boomers

Yeah this is the exact scenario that brought 2008

The price of gas reached like $5 a gallon. Most americans cant afford the extra $100+ month in gas. So the end result is unpaid rent and mortgages

Couple that with the way prices has already risen I would say we are already there

 

[hooboy]

Whoops! The US accidentally created a anti-American coalition group because they had the dumb idea of mixing cancel culture with politics.

idk bro they’re called sanctions and they’ve always existed lol

imagine being so terminally online as to call sanctions “cancel culture”

 

[wopirish]

It's a clever move. When you have equipment that looks similar enough to everyone who isn't a tank autist, just send out someone with a smartphone and a can of white spray paint, and you can make your losses look like victories just by spraying a white Z on the sides of your vehicles. Clever move by the Ukrainians, not bad at all.

Looks like the airdropped BMD-4 used by VDV. The turret and engine deck looks correct. not that hard to add an ATGM on top.

Edit: could be a BMD-2, regardless it is not a BMP variant.

Coincidentally Ukraine – 63 in 1995 and 78 in 2000 and 2005.

BMD-4

Look at that trunk.

 

[NJBear]

So..... if NATO sends Ukraine Military Jets via Poland does that mean Russia will have the legal right to respond? I beginning to think the (((NWO))) wants a lot of White people dead.

 

[Dave_Ph]

no because you have to be absolutely retarded to take russias side on this dumb dick measuring contest that might lead to wwIII

Look another quality poster.
Buh bye

 

[Getting tard comed]

Can someone who is pro-Russia point me towards something that explains your side of things?

Not really sure anyone on here is "pro-russian" go through the highlights in this thread, multiple people, including myself, have pointed out the reasons for why Russia is doing what they are doing.

People outside of this thread are "pro-russian" because they are anti globohomo and this conflict represents, for them what is hopefully, the first battle of nationalism vs globohomo. The fact that globohomo has pulled out all the stops for what is a minor battle in Eastern Europe that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things is probably a bad sign for them. They've alerted the world they have to unplug from globohomos financial system since its a weapon. Overall it's a bad move imo and that would be regardless of who won this and Russia is going to win this.